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Pleasanton police should patrol Alisal more

Original post made by Pleasantonian on Jan 27, 2009

Why is it that 'soccer moms' think it is okay to block traffic and/or park and wait for their kid on the red zone? Where are the police when you need them? Really, the congestion is getting out of hand and no one is there to direct the cluster......

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Posted by Julie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 27, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Julie is a registered user.

Just curious - how do you know they are "soccer" moms?


Posted by unclehomerr.., a resident of Downtown
on Jan 27, 2009 at 7:03 pm


Ummm. Because it's 3pm and they haven't built the ice skating rink yet??

unclehomerr..


Posted by Memory Lane, a resident of Birdland
on Jan 27, 2009 at 10:53 pm

Pleasantonian,

You took me back a few years. Yes, they were soccer moms and I could name them and their kids. I would honk and honk and no budge. Alisal is the most stressful place to be after school and I remember the other day driving by and thinking how I did not miss that mess. What a mess. I watched mothers flipping each other off and many showing inconsideration.

Would never go back there...ever.


Posted by Qwerty, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 27, 2009 at 11:22 pm


Hey, be nice to the Pleasanton PD. They really do a great job in this town and are extremely professional and courteous.

I've seen them quite a bit in various neighborhoods, mostly policing places where people have complained of graffiti, or more particularly problems with people speeding. I'd much rather have them catch people doing 50 in a 25 zone than worrying about soccer moms stacking up their mondo-bigboy SUV. I'm not a soccer mom but I can say that while I sympathize with people on the Alisal issue, there are more important things to be done elsewhere. Unfortuantely, some people use small local streets as a link over to 580 or 680 and treat it like part of the freeway too.


Posted by A parent, a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jan 28, 2009 at 7:04 am

Call or talk to Ms. Simione (the principal) if you notice repeated problems. She can call the police and ask them to monitor for the next few days. They seem quite responsive to her calls.

My observation is that most parents are quite considerate, and it is more often dads than moms who park in the red zone or gum up the traffic flow.

I sometimes park on the other side of Santa Rita, and walk over to the school for picking up my daughter. It's better for my health.


Posted by John Adams, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jan 28, 2009 at 9:14 am

I pick up from Amador, and people do the same on the streets fronting Santa Rita near there as well. They park in the red zone and right in the street. Some are "soccer moms," and some are high-tech dads. They drive vans, SUVs and BMWs. I go very early to get a legal parking place, then have a hard time getting out of it because the inconsiderate few don't want to make their kids walk a block.

Using the term "soccer mom" is inflammatory when used to describe Pleasanton's often necessary form of school-busing. It's very possible that, like my daughter, the child needs to commute to an activity immediately after school and every moment is precious.

I do feel for the people who live on those streets; it's probably because of their extreme kindness and tolerance that the police aren't there every day handing out tickets. I also think the city realizes that school pickup is a problem, and their leniency at that time allows it to work as well as it does. If enough officers showed up on a typical day to write all the deserved tickets, the snarl would be horrendous! Then again, one surprisingly unpleasant hour per month might do it.

Since there is no solution on the horizon, everyone needs to relax, be as considerate as possible, and possibly go a little earlier.


Posted by Alisal Parent, a resident of Birdland
on Jan 28, 2009 at 1:12 pm

John Adams,

Very nicely put. To tag onto your comment:

"Using the term "soccer mom" is inflammatory when used to describe Pleasanton's..."

I am an Alisal Mom who's children enjoy playing recreational soccer and I have fun watching them, I don't identify myself as a "soccer mom". I also own an SUV, simply because it's in great shape and most important, it's paid off.

I do, however, ride my bike most everyday to pick up my children and run errands, it's fun for the kids and much quicker then driving. I see many parents doing the same. I live close to the school and I realize many parents don't have that luxury.

While a few driver's are inconsiderate and a bit unsafe, a vast majority of the drivers are quite the opposite. I do realize that one or two bad apples can ruin the whole bunch, and at times I can relate to the original poster's frustration.

I really agree with your final comment, John Adams:

"Since there is no solution on the horizon, everyone needs to relax, be as considerate as possible, and possibly go a little earlier."

Heading this advice would make that 15-20 minute timeframe much more tolerable!


Posted by Not just Alisal, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jan 28, 2009 at 2:31 pm

head to any school in town and you'll see some of the worst driving in the town. At Hart Middle School, it's not if a kid will get hit, but rather when. There's not enough police officers in the town to help the problem....it has to come from within the schools..


Posted by mom, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 28, 2009 at 5:26 pm

it's true...it's at our school too and I agree, not a matter of if, but when. It is the same parents everyday that park across the crosswalk as they wait for their kids to get in the car, and put the kids who are walking at risk. Shameful, really.


Posted by Julie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2009 at 6:34 pm

Julie is a registered user.

I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who considered the "soccer mom" comment inflammatory (I also consider it "sexist" and a few other things...). People of both genders and of all varying life styles can be rude. Referring to a woman as a "soccer mom" is derogatory. Why not simply write: "why do some PEOPLE think it's okay to block traffic, etc." That's a more accurate statement anyway, since I doubt that it is only moms with soccer playing children who cause traffic problems at Alisal!


Posted by casey, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jan 28, 2009 at 8:23 pm

After school pickup is bad around most schools - the many drivers bolt from the curbs without looking, attempting to clear the area (probably because of the crowding and general lack of civility.) But what I find worse is the morning drop offs - the "just-in-time" assumption that no other parent/guardian will be taking their kids to school other than 2 minutes before the bell. Tailgating up Hopyard; getting cut off by NASCAR-wannabees on Santa Rita; waiting on Del Valle or Foothill because those precious highschoolers can't walk from the curb to the gate; this list could go on and on.

When I have to travel in a school area, I plan ahead to try to avoid the drivers and students, and go slowly so no one and no car gets hurt. (And, of course, try to remember the late starts on Wednesday.) Kids may be partially to blame, holding up the departures and pickups - it's really a shame so many feel it critical to drive the schoolers - walking, cycling, boarding, scootering would be healthier and better for the environment.

No, it's not black or white. We all need to be more tolerant, more courteous and greener. And maybe schedules for post-school events need to slip a bit so kids can walk/bike/etc. home and then go to sports/lessons/tutoring.


Posted by Karen, a resident of Downtown
on Jan 28, 2009 at 11:40 pm

Wow,

To say that calling a person a soccer mom is now politically incorrect is taking the true issue to the extreme and missing the point. In my 13 years within the school system, albeit parking lots before and after schools to begin with, I have yet to see fathers being the ones to contend with one another regarding the major traffic flaws at the schools. Not to say they are not involved. I think Pleasanton dads are awesome, but in all honesty I have witnessed only moms contending with one another in a rude manner to get into that damn lot. PUSD board members and principals, are you listening? There is way too much traffic nears out schools and it is impacting us. We are sick and tired of being sick and tired of being in the traffic mess of our schools. I'm almost out of here. Whooh..will take a breath then.


Posted by neighbor, a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 29, 2009 at 7:48 am

Wow,in reading everyones' comments, it seems like too many are focusing on the term 'soccer mom' as opposed to what the real issue is - congestion.. Get over it with the soccer mom term......


Posted by stayhomedad, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 29, 2009 at 8:29 am

Both my daughters play soccer now...and I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about 'soccer dads'...so I guess I'm ok.
I want to continue with this ridiculous trend of ignoring the real issue and I want to get hung up on the term 'soccer mom'. When did this get to be a bad term? I worked 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and I devoted my life to changing, and being their to raise my children. I saw it as a GOAL to become a 'soccer parent'. I take pride in wayching my kids grow up. I was even prouder when i got the mini van. I love taking my kids to practice, and the like. AND NOW... I'm being lead to believe that being a 'soccer mom' is something to be asshamed of? Who is judging who...and why is this bad? Should I hire a nanny to drive my kids around? Will that make me a respectable parent?


Posted by resident, a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 29, 2009 at 11:03 am

I have to agree with Pleasantonian...most are soccer moms....they are either on the phone or putting on their lipstick while driving and dropping their kid off at Alisal. Why don't they 'walk' their kid to school? Hmmmm...there's a concept!


Posted by Gurn Blaskin, a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jan 29, 2009 at 11:10 am

I have to agree with pleasantonian. Perhaps the soccer moms would get more attention from their husbands if they get off their fat assets (humvee, Tahoes, etc) and walk their Cherubs to School, Rather than pollute the environment, etc. I'm sure there are good reasons why not to walk. Too busy getting to starbucks, the mall or nails.
my 2 cents and stop blocking the intersections.


Posted by Alisal parent, a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jan 30, 2009 at 10:50 am

Soccer moms or not, we all have to remember to be careful when we're driving around all the schools. Hats off to Ms. Simione and her staff who are out there and really trying hard to keep students safe. True, Alisal has one of the most congested pick up/drop off areas. All the more reason for people to follow the laws: Don't park in the red, stay off your cell phones, park on a side street and walk if you need to talk to someone on the phone to tell them you'll be late ... and drive out of the parking lot slowly. Truly you'll be maybe 30 seconds - 1 minute later but you'll keep everyone - especially little kids - safe.


Posted by Soccer Dad, a resident of Birdland
on Jan 30, 2009 at 12:28 pm

Pleasanton won't be as pleasant without soccer moms and their fat assets (Humvee, Tahoes, etc). So the more the merrier!




Posted by parent, a resident of Birdland
on Jan 31, 2009 at 8:45 am

Contact PUSD and the City of Pleasanton to ask if the "Traffic Calming" plan can be reserected. Many of us "Soccer-Moms/Dads" worked very hard, in a cooperative/colloborative effort to create a plan that worked for about a generation (10 years) and somehow has gone hay wire since. This plan probably needs to be looked at again and maybe we need to re-educate our parent community on the process of drop-off and pick-up. Just a thought...


Posted by sara, a resident of Downtown
on Feb 2, 2009 at 1:41 pm

Posted by Not just Alisal, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2009 at 2:31 pm

head to any school in town and you'll see some of the worst driving in the town. At Hart Middle School, it's not if a kid will get hit, but rather when. There's not enough police officers in the town to help the problem....it has to come from within the schools..


I wanted to comment on this post I pasted above.........
saying it has to come from within the schools is absurd, how is parents behavior their fault....... How about we acknowlege there is conjestion and act more appropriately as parents picking up our kids........there's an idea.


Posted by Pleasanton Resident, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 2, 2009 at 8:54 am

As I was sitting in traffic I counted 12 SUV's out of 14 vehicles in line at the stop sign in front of Alisal. The hausfraus should be ashamed of themselves. Maybe they should "at the very least" consider being a responsible member of the community and use those SUV's for what they were inteneded and load up a dozen or more students to deliver to school. That would be a dozen less SUV's out front jamming up traffic. Better yet, help out the environment and buy a Hybrid or compact vehicle. It took me 45 minutes to get through town to go to work. Have a little consideration.


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