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Zero Tolerance for Panhandlers

Original post made by Missy, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Dec 20, 2008

Please do not encourage the Panhandlers which have been working the corner of Trader Joe's and MacDonald's parking lots (at Pimlico and Santa Rita.) I recognize this same group (all men) who worked this corner last year. They have a beat up old brown van with a sign "Family Stranded" (what "family"?!) and a tool box sitting there, but I guarantee it is just a "prop"! Funny how that van just started right up and they pulled away when it was time to go!! And then they are back the next day! These low life are taking advantage of the kindness of others during the holiday season. I reported my suspicions to the police, but they claim there is "nothing they can do". What a shame!

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Posted by Wondering...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 20, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Is your issue the panhandlers, or their "beat up old brown van" tarnishing the fine streets of Pleasanton?

Or is it perhaps both?

You sound link the typical snob Pleasanton has now become so known for.


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Posted by Doo Doo
a resident of Valley Trails
on Dec 20, 2008 at 4:44 pm

I'm trying to change my ways.... but "wondering", that was really rude of you. You should be ashamed of yourself...


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 20, 2008 at 5:33 pm

This money is part of the BAILOUT. Give generously. Merry Christmas. Stop and ask...what their needs may be? That will give you choice, not judgment. Pretty simple, don't you think? Move on. There is a women who uses Hacienda Crossings parking lot to solicit funds to get home for Christmas. Car breaking down, no money etc. She does quite well, as a "local" resident. Choice. By the way PW, Merry Christmas!


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Posted by Missy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 20, 2008 at 5:45 pm

Dear "Wondering"--
Oops! My mistake! It was a beat up old BEIGE 16 passenger van. And as I said earlier, I happened to drive by again at 4:30p.m. today ("quittin' time") and the van was full of grown men and they were smiling & laughing as they pulled out of the MacDonald's parking lot. Must have had a "Good Day"!!!
So, Wondering...Do you think a miracle happened in the parking lot and they were able to crank up that engine? Or, do you think the people that donated money to their "distress" got taken? Hmmmmm?
I am not a snob, Wondering, but I am a single parent who works TWO jobs to make ends meet. No handouts for this family, Thank you!! Just good old fashioned hard work!!
If these guys have so much time to stand out with a sign, why not WORK to earn their OWN MONEY? It makes me sick that they pulled one over on the rest of us! (And the police, too, because they told the police they were "broken down". Hence, the police can't "do anything about it.)


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Posted by Wondering...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 21, 2008 at 6:52 am

Miss Missy --

I commend you for taking care of your family.

However -- these "guys" apparently think panhandling is a job. The biggest issue I have with this is that it's a tax-free job for them while you and I are being taxed to the gills.

My point was simply this -- your original post seemed more focus on "riff-raff" versus an issue. That made you appear to be a snob -- those Pleasanton is so famous for these days.


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Posted by Wondering...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 21, 2008 at 6:53 am

Doo-Doo -- Rude? No. To the point? Yes.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 21, 2008 at 11:44 am

It seems to me that somebody who actually lives in Dublin doesn't have a heart...hmmmmmmm...who could it be? Just Wondering...hahahahahahahahaha...


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Posted by Wondering...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 21, 2008 at 11:51 am

Cholo -- If you are referencing me, you are wrong. I live in Pleasanton and am very sad about it's reputation and what it has become.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 21, 2008 at 11:53 am

If the shoe fits...


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 21, 2008 at 11:58 am

Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with poor people needing money. I've heard from reliable sources that December is the season of giving. If you can't share with others, then what does it mean to have a heart? Hmmmmmmmmmm...just Wonderling!

I'm still waiting for somebody to knit a wooly for this one...


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Posted by Missy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 21, 2008 at 7:05 pm

Cholo
You are right. There is nothing wrong with "poor people needing money". But the best place to donate that money is to a shelter or food bank. They will make good use of it! Do not give cash to people standing on the corner holding a sign, under false pretenses, such as "Family Stranded". Those men who were working the corner by Trader Joe's and MacDonalds probably used the cash for drugs or alcohol. Maybe if they were honest and held a sign "Why lie? Need cash for drugs or booze!", I'd feel more like I had a "choice" whether to donate or not, as "Wondering" suggested.
People like "Family Stranded" make it bad for those who truly are in need. I never give cash, but I have bought some food for homeless. However, the last time I did....the person got mad and refused the food, stating "they didn't need food -- they need cash"!! Oh well! Even the Salvation Army requires people to take a breathalyzer before giving them a bed for the night.


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Posted by Doo Doo
a resident of Valley Trails
on Dec 22, 2008 at 9:02 am

Nice try "wondering"... But I'm not buying it. All the original post said was "They have a beat up old brown van with a sign "Family Stranded"... Thats it! That was describing what kind of vehicle those specific people are driving. So some of us can distinguish the dishonest people from the ones truely in need. I couldn't see any reason for your assault on Missy.
Now, don't sit there and act high and mighty after you attacked (calling her a snob) an innocent person for NO REASON. I think we all can see what kind of person YOU ARE. You were not provoked in any way. You ignored the friendly intent of her thread and insulted not only her, but everyone who lives in Pleasanton. If you have some built up resentment towards the residents of Pleasanton...then WHY DON"T YOU LEAVE. You can go find a nice little town where the people insult each other... the way you do.
In addition... You mentioned "Doo-Doo -- Rude? No. To the point? Yes"..? What was your point? Was it, that you resent the residents of Pleasanton? You're an angry person in general? You can't control your smart mouth? What was the point again?


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:04 pm

I'm actually Wondering why anybody would deny that they don't live in lovely city like Dublin? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...that's where I've spotted you in the past...yup, Dublin is a sweet and cozy little town!

Instead of a breath test, just drop a few Sen-Sen Wondering.


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Posted by Missy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 22, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Doo Doo,
Thank you for defending my original post. I rarely comment on this Town Square forum because people like Wondering and Cholo use it to bully and bash Pleasanton residents. They love to incite people to respond to their ugly comments. Some people are childish and rude and need to get a life! To the rest of you "Living the Good Life in Pleasanton", as well as my "sister-city" neighbors, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 22, 2008 at 1:53 pm

hi missy...how uncharitable; if you try extra hard, you can also take the HIGH ROAD! si se puede!

wa wa wa...all the way home...

go wash your hairs...


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 22, 2008 at 6:27 pm

just Wondering...how come it's so difficult for some people to admit that they live in Dublin? just Wondering...hahahahahahahahahahah...


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Posted by Proud resident of Dublin
a resident of Dublin
on Dec 23, 2008 at 3:20 pm

I would think it's more difficult to admit you live in Livermore!


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Posted by Wondering...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 23, 2008 at 5:13 pm

Proud -- I had to laugh when reading your post. It is so appropriate. And here Cholo insists I live in Dublin. He's so wrong...so very wrong.


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Posted by mac
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 24, 2008 at 8:31 am

Can't believe you all want to debate which town is better. This is a terrific TRI-city area and our boundaries are becoming more blurred as we all grow. What nonsense!

Missy, you are right in being concerned. We actually helped to pay to fill up a man's tank who had a similar story. Though we doubted his story, we knew he must need some help, but more, we also felt very uneasy. There are stories of them following people home and worries over it leading to break-ins or robberies.

Being generous is fruitful, but our communities must be cautious since crimes are increasing with the introduction of so many out-of-towners.

Merry Christmas,


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 30, 2008 at 12:41 pm

happy dublin holiday...Wondering!

Fess-up fig head...


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Posted by PToWN94566
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2008 at 10:55 pm

PToWN94566 is a registered user.

I recently saw a show the other day about some man that offically panhandles as his job. He has a comfortable life and makes anywhere from 200 bucks a day and up. After seeing this clip it made me think about other panhandlers throughout the Bay Area. This guy on tv admitted that he hated working so he choose to sit on a street corner, begging for money or washing people's windshields. If you've seen these people before think twice then- are they really stranded or just to lazy to go work and make an honest living?


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