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Walmart grocery and the other Pleasanton groceries

Original post made by Joe on Jul 12, 2013

Predicting what the effect of the new store will be on the existing Pleasanton grocery stores.

I don't think the new Walmart will have any effect on Gene's. I go to Gene's for the quality of the meat and produce. Over the years I've noticed that Gene's prices for the standard grocery items like bread and milk are 100% in line with those from Lucky or Safeway, so I get those at Gene's too.

Trader Joe's has its own unique products and seems to have its own following. If Walmart has any effect on this store, I think it will be because of the two stores' proximity more than anything else.

Then there's Safeway. I was surprised that there was enough business to support two in-town Safeway's, along with the two in Dublin. The Safeways are new, spacious, and offer full-service items like soups, the deli, and pharmacy, and even gas for your car...the one-stop shopping that makes it convenient. If I'm coming home from work and I need to shop quickly, Safeway is a good bet.

Finally, Lucky. Lucky (and the parent Save-Mart) have positioned themselves as the low-price leader, and as such I think they will have the greatest competition from the Walmart grocery. A lot is going to depend on Walmart's prices and selection. Lucky has a pretty good selection of meats, fish, and produce, and if Walmart can match I think Lucky is in for a tough time.

So - I predict:
Trader Joe's and Gene's - no change
Safeway - decrease in business for their Santa Rita store, no change for their Bernal/680 store
Lucky - big change

Comments (19)

Posted by karol, a resident of Birdland
on Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 am

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Posted by Map, a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 12, 2013 at 7:41 pm

Don't forget about the RV and overnight taxi parking allowed at Walmart and the homeless allowed to stay In their cars for days on end --- advantage- Walmart!! How many of those new employees are full timers with benefits??

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 12, 2013 at 9:10 pm

Map, your lyin' spin is disgusting.
Living near Santa Rita, I have quite a selection. I'm an avid TJ shopper for some things, Safeway for others, and Wal Mart. I would say WalMarket will probably take from WalMart & maybe some Safeway. It won't cut into TJ's

Posted by Walmart lover, a resident of Birdland
on Jul 13, 2013 at 11:56 am

I met the new store manager out in front yesterday and a very engaging young man and I am sure this store will be highly successful and yes they will take a ton of business away from Safeway. Everytime I go to Safeway the checkers spend most of their talking about their next break and the place smells after they put in the new flooring. If Safeway wants to be a player they need to find a way to be more competitive and more customer friendly

Posted by Map, a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 13, 2013 at 5:37 pm

Wake up "shopper". Go by any Walmart parking lot in the early A.M. And check out the "campers". Hoping you aren't against full time employees with benefits and a decent living wage. I like to see all workers treated equally no matter what type of work they do

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2013 at 9:38 am

Wake up 'Map'. It is a MARKET, with a market lot, NOT a Wal-Mart, with a Wal-Mart lot. IF you could stick to FACTS, you wouldn't stand out as a union flame-thrower, just trying to stir up sxxt!
What a 'JERK'..see how polite I am with my choice of words. The NEIGHBORS are happy, why can't you leave them alone and allow them the pleasure of a neighborhood market so they can send their kids on bikes to pick up their bread, milk, and sodas. You just can't stand to see anybody happy?
IF Wal-Marts are so bad (I think NOT) it would be a result of greedy American unions, driving OUT American manufacturing. Sorry you weren't decent enough to live and LET live !

Posted by Analyst Dude, a resident of Downtown
on Jul 15, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Add a prediction: RALEY'S-- Another decrease in sales of 5-10%--for several reasons; the new WalMart store just being one of them.

Overheard at the check out stand last week: Customer telling cashier that


Customer told cashier that in the prior week, her credit card information was stolen shortly after using it at Raley's and the card number was used in Virginia for a $400 purchase--the bank caught it, did not authorize the purchase and contacted the customer.

Cashier told customer that all the cashiers were being told by different customers that they were still having current problems with their credit & debit card information being hacked from Raley's computer system.

Cashier said that the only information they have been given by the Corporate people are the "corporate communications" letters from about a month or two ago; haven't been given any updated information since then.

As the "corporate communications" letter said, BEWARE and keep a close eye on your account balances--as if it is our problem & Raley's has no responsibility for anything in this matter.

I'm not using my credit or debit card at Raley's. As a matter of fact, I'm not shopping there anymore--highest prices in town of any supermarket.

Posted by Safesun, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2013 at 3:42 pm

Bella Giosa mozzarella is $10 at Safeway and $9 at New Leaf. I use the Environmental Working Group's website to find sunblocks with low toxicity, and New Leaf has many of them. Safeway, Wahlgreen's and Wal-Mart have none of them.

Posted by Map, a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 15, 2013 at 5:00 pm

Stick to the facts " shopper" it's a Walmart with a Walmart parking lot- read the sign on the building, "WALMART"--- bring out the overnight campers!! Sorry you hate the unions so much, somehow that always gets brought up by the haters when you talk about fair wages, benefits, and working conditions, must have a nice cushy office job!

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2013 at 11:30 pm

NOthing Wal MArket does would change for good or ba, Raley's credit card issue. I fear that is a Raley hacker issue, irrelevant to discussion. Sorry you got caught in it.
and Map, apparently the young manager is satisfied with the opportunities WalMart offered him, regardless of the sxxx you try to disturb !! Since you don't value personal freedom, you could travel far, the farther the better.(This post has been edited to remove comments/words deemed inappropriate by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff)

Posted by Annie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 17, 2013 at 7:27 am

I shop at Walmart for the big bags of chips. The money I save on these makes it worth the trip, even if I don't buy anything else.

Oh, yeah, and unions are bad. And because they don't work with unions, Walmart is a freedom seeker.

I read that each of the Walton heirs is worth over $32 Billion. All the more power to them. I don't know how anyone is able to live on less than $32 Billion in wealth and assets. Something to think about as the Obama administration tries to rob our job creating heroes in order to give free stuff to the lazy ones who won't get a job.

Oh, and while I'm at it, what about the intolerable 7.7% unemployment rate. How can anybody find a job when it's that high? Yet these lazy freeloaders try to live off the hardworking taxpayer.

Posted by Ptown Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 17, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Vote with your dollars and shop at ANY other store than Walmart. We're all paying the cost of those low prices but most especially the working poor.
See "Walmart, the High Cost of Low Prices" on YouTube and decide for yourself.

Posted by Joe, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 17, 2013 at 5:35 pm

I went to the Walmart today. Pretty much what I expected. The grocery selection is on a par with Lucky with numerous selections of Walmart's house "Great Value" brand. Some things are definitely less expensive - mayonaaise, chips, many things in the frozen aisle including pot pies and french fries. The produce and meat selection is smaller than Lucky...seemed like half of the produce was lettuce, and half the meat was ground beef. Produce and meat prices are roughly what you'd see at Lucky...lettuce at $3.00 for a romaine three-pack, peaches for $1.89/lb (rock-hard, by the way), ground beef at $3.50 a pound, steak at $10.00/lb.

If the Walmart grocery was convenient, I'd shop there for essential items, but otherwise I don't see a huge difference between it and the other major store brands in town. I still prefer the produce and meat at Gene's.

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 17, 2013 at 6:07 pm

I got there about 7:50 and had to park over by Tuesday Morning...full lot. Of course, as might be expected, Matt Sullivan was out at Santa Rita orchestrating all the union picketers parading all around. Because of their presence I suppose, there were police cars & mounted cycles everywhere (considering union horror stories).
Mayor, Council members, CofC there welcoming the market to the community. Company and store management spoke. All fun. All positive. All neighborly. There was a wide range of customers. I chatted with a number of staff members and management, all very informative and friendly. I welcomed them to the neighborhood. All staff members were helpful to shoppers. I loved all the wonderful cut-up melons for $2.50 each. I bought health items I needed. Best was my favorite ice cream bars Safeway had stopped carrying, to bring in Magnum. I think $$ changed hands to dump my fav...but I've got them back now!
It is so great to have this addition and service to the neighborhood, after of years of an empty lot & building. Tragic that we still have the failed & empty spaces we do. Sorry this had to take so long.

Posted by Pauline, a resident of Birdland
on Jul 17, 2013 at 7:08 pm

Some of the writers above must be kidding. There was not anyone there picketing and the biggest issue I had was finding a place to park because the place was packed. I went by 3 different times during the day and at all times the place was full. The produce was fine and very fresh. A dozen large eggs were $1.98. We took our Safeway list with us and checked off the differences in pricing as we went. We bought $285 dollars worth or 62 different items and everything was much cheaper. Maybe also very important was that every worker was extremely helpful and friendly Safeway and Lucky's has lost our business.

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2013 at 8:11 am

Really! I don't know what time you were there. At 7:50, when I arrived, turning in South drive near canal, there were picketers, and tall Matt's head was quite easy to see. Right there, inside the lot there was a Pleasanton police car and officer. I had to drive up and down each lane looking for a space. There were several police cars around the lot. There were also three or four police motorcycles with officers, standing, leaning or sitting on their cycles positioned at corners & all approaches to lot.

Because of the brief ceremony nearby, just inside the door, about 20 -25 of us waited and listened just outside the door, standing around, whispering, few noticed the picketers near the Santa Rita Road curb.
When I left around 9:15, picketers with signs overhead, were still walking from driveway to driveway (tall Matt clearly visible). Again, as I walked toward my car near Tuesday Morning, that officer was still positioned on his cycle, as were the others at each approach. I left through Las Positas Rd exit, light, returning South on Santa Rita, and saw the then larger group of picketers, pacing both directions with signs overhead.

I'm not sure why Pauline would deny the group obvious to everyone else. Shall we continue the discussion?? Wasn't their point to be seen? Some did, as we groaned 'give it up'!!! The tactless brainstorm had zero impact on the happy, eager shoppers ! After Matt caused all the money wasted on both sides, all the time lost for the neighboring Meadows, tax dollars lost for the city, etc, when will Matt and outsiders shut up and let neighboring families be happy?

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2013 at 11:23 am

Today's Contra Costa Times,, front page, Local News section B, has story of WalMart opening...unfortunately, with pics of the protesting photo pigs. Thursdays Local is always Pleasanton day, with background Pleasanton stories.

Posted by Shopper, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2013 at 2:12 pm

BTW, just a 'heads up'... Fresh and Easy in Rosewood had announced they were in trouble, and on borrowed time, before WalMarket was approved. So after they're gone, don't say they were driven out because of WalMarket. Intelligent and well informed (most of Pleasanton) will know otherwise.

Posted by Poppin Fresh!, a resident of Birdland
on Jul 20, 2013 at 12:58 pm

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Related to Walmart, they are still packed even a few days after opening and I am not surprised based on the prices I saw in there. I think at some point Pleasanton will be forced to close the store on Santa Rita Road because of competition. Realistically speaking 3 Safeways within a few square miles is probably far too many. 2 in Pleasanton and 1 in Dublin.

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