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High density, multi-story apartment project OKd for Pleasanton's California Center

Original post made on Apr 17, 2013

A new multi-story, high density apartment project and adjoining retail center was approved last week by the Pleasanton City Council for a section of California Center that has until now has been one of the city's major office centers.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 9:45 AM

Comments (22)

Posted by William Tell, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Looking forward to the impact on schools, traffic and crime! Thanks to Governor Brown and Pleasanton "leadership" for being a part of this "solution."

Posted by Robin Huntsman, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 17, 2013 at 2:04 pm

Yessiree, good folks like William and me came to Pleasanton to get away from poor people and people of color. Can't they put the high density housing in other places where there are no schools, and where traffic and crime are not a problem? How about Oakland?

Posted by Mom, a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 17, 2013 at 5:32 pm

What a joke. If I wanted to live in Dublin, I'd move there.

Posted by Sal, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 17, 2013 at 6:37 pm

Mom say "What a joke. If I wanted to live in Dublin, I'd move there."

Yeah, the same poor old Dublin that has smaller class sizes for K-3rd. We are so much better aren't we?

Posted by Ptown Lover, a resident of Avignon
on Apr 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Hacienda has been zoned for apartments forever you morons. If you want to live in a bubble move, pleasanton is part of the Bay Area and is inevitably becoming more diverse both racially and socioeconomically.

Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm

"Of the 305 studio and one-two-and-three bedroom apartments planned for the development, just under 50 will be in the "affordable" classification, well under the 15-20% rate once required under the city's now-invalid inclusionary zoning ordinance."

50 out of 305 works out to be about 16%.

Posted by BBN, a resident of Hart Middle School
on Apr 17, 2013 at 10:46 pm

The whole race/class argument is so old. For many of us, it has nothing to do with race or economic class. Hell, I'm a minority myself and live on a very tight budget as a single parent. What some of us worry about is the traffic that this side of town is going to see with maybe another 800 to 1000 people over here in addition to stoneridge going through. One of the things I like about being in town is that we don't have the traffic that Dublin does.

Good for Dublin that they are doing so well in the education department. I don't like the traffic in Dublin. Their planning is obviously different than what Pleasanton's was when I moved here decades ago (from Dublin). Not better or worse, just different. I happen to like the less traffic and fewer high rises and the traffic that goes along with him here.

Posted by Chemist, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 18, 2013 at 9:11 am

Pleasanton should withdraw from ABAG, quit taking their extortion $$, and control its own destiny. I think we should have low income housing, apartments, etc.; however, it should be OUR decision.

Posted by West side Observer, a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 18, 2013 at 9:16 am

Right on Chemist.

Posted by AnnaS, a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 18, 2013 at 9:26 am

For Chemist, People of California including people of Pleasanton already made their decision: by their vote at 2008 and 2012 they decide to let their government to make all the decisions for them. Your government decided for you how and with whom you must live. Now, you should be thankful for your government to not make you share your own house with someone who cannot afford their own.

Posted by Rick, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 18, 2013 at 9:38 am

PW says: "The project is expected to be finished in 2014."


Posted by Beth , a resident of Laguna Vista
on Apr 18, 2013 at 10:21 am

Ok so let me see if i have this correct.... Under the OLD method of calculating the necessary affordable units there will be barely 16% of these units at the affordable level. And City of Pleasanton lost their lawsuit so we continue to use the same method for calculating the necessary affordable units??? You would think we would want to do a little more instead of the bare we dont get sued again. Havent we learned our lesson?
Oh and only one covered parking space for each unit. Sounds like parking is going to be an issue. Most apartments have at least two drivers and two cars.

Posted by Val Vista resident, a resident of Val Vista
on Apr 18, 2013 at 10:29 am

Ptown lover.... I love Pleasanton too, but there will be an impact on schools and traffic. Just because Dublin has ruined it's surface streets with traffic and ruined the hills, doesn't mean Pleasanton has to play follow the leader. There is no reason to call people morans because they have an opinion. I just agree with William Tell and AnnaS.

Posted by South Pleasanton, a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 18, 2013 at 10:53 am

This is the opposite of democracy. When government can dictate to a community who lives in it, we all lose. It only reminds me how powerful the special interests 'rights' movement is and how much sway it has over our society. They would say this is a progressive issue. If you voted for progressives you may want to rethink how you vote for your 'leaders' the next time.

Posted by Patricia, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 18, 2013 at 11:16 am

I say hooray. With more apartment stock available here and at Stanley & Valley, maybe my kids can afford to live in the town where they grew up and where they work instead of having to live in Oakland.

Posted by AnnaS, a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm

Patricia, it is very possible that your kids will be able to afford to live in Pleasanton. It is also very possible that by that time Pleasanton will become another Oakland, or a place for poor residents of Beijing. After all, do you believe that those who buy houses here in bulk care about your kids and future grandchildren education?

Posted by Awesome Mom, a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm

Dublin is the demise of the tri valley. Dublin traded their hills for $$$$, the few that gain profit. Now we have to look at a future Daly city in the making. Those apartments going up next to Bart look like modern day Projects.

I'm all for low income houseing so long as it attracts the right people, folks over 60 and no section 8.

Posted by Concerned citizen, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 18, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Totally agree with you, Awesome Mom.

What I'm trying to figure out is how Danville has avoided/gotten out of having to build their state-mandated so-called 'fair share' of this high-density housing.

When's ABAG or Urban Habitat coming after THEM?

Posted by Patricia, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 18, 2013 at 4:37 pm

AnnaS, I'm not sure I understand what you are attempting to say, other than fear Pleasanton will turn into Oakland. Not sure I see that happening because we get some rental stock that middle class folks like teachers and young working college graduates who GREW UP HERE can afford. And Awesome Mom? If you think the apartments near Bart in Dublin look like Projects, I don't think you've ever SEEN projects. Look them up. Those are luxury apartments with granite countertops, walk-in closets, etc. and the communities have amenities like pools, spas, gyms and bocce courts. A 512-foot studio at one of them rents for $1,670 a month.

Posted by Kathy , a resident of Stoneridge
on Apr 18, 2013 at 7:48 pm

William mentioned impact on schools, traffic and crime and YOUR mind immediately jumped to "people of color". We can't read William's mind, but your statement clearly makes your thoughts apparent. " You are equating crime to "people of color". Racist much???

Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 18, 2013 at 10:10 pm

Concerned Citizen wrote: "What I'm trying to figure out is how Danville has avoided/gotten out of having to build their state-mandated so-called 'fair share' of this high-density housing."

I don't know the particulars about Danville, but I suspect that they are already at about their "fair share". As I understand it, the "fair share" is determined by a community's jobs-to-residences ratio. The problem with Pleasanton, as pointed out in Jerry Brown's memo a few years back, is that Pleasanton's jobs-to-residences ratio was way over 1-to-1. In other words, Pleasanton welcomed businesses and the jobs (and revenue) they created but didn't want to house all the people working in all those local businesses, instead putting the burden on nearby communities as well as on the local highways and on public transportation. That was a no-no. I don't recall offhand exactly what Pleasanton's jobs-to-residences ratio (you can google the memo and find out) but it wasn't just a little bit over 1-to-1. It was WAY over 1-to-1.

Now why doesn't Danville have our same problems with this? I suspect that it's simply because they didn't invite in as many businesses as Pleasanton. They don't have a large mall like Stoneridge Mall, and I don't believe that they have a big business park like Pleasanton's Hacienda Business Park. By keeping the number of local jobs down, they kept down their required commitment for building additional housing.

This is the situation as I understand it through my casual browsing of stories on Pleasanton. I welcome corrections to what I've stated above.

Posted by eyeball, a resident of Amador Estates
on Apr 29, 2013 at 6:23 pm

This is an AGENDA 21 project. Pleasanton's city council is being run the United Nation's. They are stealing our property taxes and building these useless complexes.... Research UN Agenda 21

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