Brown signs $8-billion funding measure to start construction of high-speed rail system in California State, National, International, posted by Editor, Pleasanton Weekly Online, on Jul 19, 2012 at 8:31 am
Gov. Jerry Brown was in downtown San Francisco Wednesday to sign an $8 billion funding measure to start construction on what is expected to be the country's fastest rail system.
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Posted by Nigel, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jul 19, 2012 at 8:31 am
What a pathetic situation. California is bankrupt yet Gov. Moonbeam and the ignorant socialist dolts in the legilature commit building a bullet train that will likely cost $150 BILLION (the $68 billion estimate now is widely regraded as way below the actual cost). At the same time, Moonbeam wants a massive tax increase now with many more to come. Just how crazy are Californians?
Posted by marcia, a resident of another community, on Jul 19, 2012 at 10:45 am
Amen! Makes my bumper sticker "I think, therefore, I vote conservative!" punch even a bigger whallup!
We are comical fodder for all of the nation and world because liberal Californians are so stupid. They (Democrats) paint all of us into corners on a habitual basis. Unfortunately, once in, it's hard to get out. Still hoping.
Posted by Mr. Mittens, a resident of another community, on Jul 19, 2012 at 3:35 pm
I just can't understand why people can't accept the idea of automobiles. Ann and I couldn't do without our 4 Caddies. What's good for General Motors is good for America. I love my Caddies like I love my children, and I'm happy to show them to you. My tax returns? No way, for gosh sakes. That would give the public something to criticize about me. That wouldn't be fair, to me.
Posted by Bill, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2012 at 11:30 am
Like Nigel said this is not 68 billion. It will be more than 150 billion by the time all the infrastructure is in place. If you add in 30 years worth of interest to this 150 billion you double the amount that is owed. Just the initial 9 billion stated in Proposition 1A would require the state to pay 650 million per year out of the general fund! The only organizations to donate to the passage of prop 1A were unions. They could see this sleaze coming a mile away. If you took all the money that is needed to completely fund this boondoggle, you could have given every man, woman, and child living in California 150 round trip airline tickets between LAX and SFO. For a typical person this is several lifetime trips.
Of note, the Surfliner (San Diego to Santa Barbara) rail service recaptures the most operating costs of any California public rail service. It still needs 30% of its operating costs to be subsidized.
Posted by Bill, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2012 at 12:54 pm
A typical load of passengers is around 400 persons. How long do you think that "in your pants" TSA agents will take to frisk 400 people. In a typical airport terminal there might be 4 lanes of security check-in stations. At this rate it would take 3 hours to clear 400 people.
On your ticket it will have the phase "please arrive at the station 3 hours before boarding". Yeah that will make everyone want to take high speed rail.
Posted by Bill, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Jul 20, 2012 at 2:27 pm
How do you like this one Mr. Mittens -
The CA high speed rail is expected to add 5% more load to PG&E's power grid (by the way PG&E was an eager supporter of HSR). At 5% more load a choice is going to have to be made on where electricity is cut in order to support HSR during peak demand conditions. So if it is 100 degrees in the shade and your air conditioner goes off along with your neighborhood's electrical supply, you can thank goodness that the high speed rail trains still have power.
It is estimated that this train system will take 3,000GWh of electricity per year of operation. Diablo Canyon nuclear power generator produces 18,000GWh that supports 2.2 million people.
I don't see anyone building a power supply generator capable of supplying this demand. And remember all the electricity generated in the future must come from clean technology. No carbon footprint allowed. So guess what your electrical rates are going to do. We will be paying electrical rates that are higher then Hawaii's which are the most expensive in the nation.
When asked about the particulars on this subject, the High Speed Rail Authority answered "its part of the vision".
Question - why do officials and professionals that have expertise in transportation to include high speed trains oppose this project while officials that don't have any expertise are in favor of the project?
Posted by Mr. Muttens, a resident of another community, on Jul 20, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Lou, I think you're missing Bill's point--there's no infrastructure in place to supply adequate power to the new choo-choo to nowhere. To resolve this issue and fulfill gov moonbeam's legacy, we'll have to install solar panels on every square in of the state (except where Barbara Boxer and Pelosi live) and pray to God they fog nevers rolls in and it never gets dark.
Regarding your security sarcasm, maybe you should suggest employing the same security used for trains in Europe. They have terrorists blowing up trains, killing hundreds (Madrid,Luxembourg, Moscow), but that could never happen here...gov jerry won't stand for it...it might tarnish his legacy.
Where's Linda Ronstadt to provide him with the distraction he so obviously needs?