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Union sues San Jose to block pension reform measure

Original post made on Jun 7, 2012

Union representatives announced Wednesday that they have filed lawsuits against the city of San Jose to contest the legality of pension reform Measure B, which voters passed with 70% approval Tuesday night, according to semi-final results.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, June 7, 2012, 8:00 AM

Comments (14)

Posted by taxpayer, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 8:35 am

Of course the lawyers will sue. This reforms needs to happen in every city and for every public employee job. The passage of 3% at 50 is the worst thing to ever happen to taxpayers. Cops and firefighters retire at age 50 with 90% or more of their final earnings for life. They get raises every year. They get free health insurance for life. The taxpayers get raped.
The San Jose measure also addresses the sham disability retirements. Cops and firefighters start working toward that disability from day one on the job. They retire with full pensions that are tax free for life. Once the disability has been granted it can never be challenged even when proven to be fraud. (Yeah, you know who you are, retired with a "bad back", get your pay tax free and play golf every day right here in P-Town). The taxpayers have had enough.
Time for reforming the Pleasanton pensions as well. These people retire young and go to work full time somewhere else, all the time collecting the full taxpayer funded pensions. Nothing less than theft.


Posted by Angry taxpayer, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2012 at 11:17 am

Isn't it interesting the guys can't stand tall, display some degree of character and honor the wishes of the voters....the will of the people ! ! ! ! ! ! amazing and sad
I guess they plan on selling their homes by retirement day, knowing they would be shamed going out in their neighborhoods living loose and large at the age of 50, while their neighbors are either UNemployed AT 50 and WITHOUT ANY PENSION OR SOC SEC, or still working at age 65 because they have NO pension.
The personal greed and sense of entitlement is unbelievable....quite willing to sacrifice schools, to squeeze their neighbors,flipping off the majority of their neighbors and voters. Maybe they plan on slinking out of night during the night.


Posted by steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jun 7, 2012 at 11:35 am

Wheres George Wallace when you need him. I'm really really angry. Let's bring Rick Scott in and try to remove the unions from the voting rolls. Show some backbone. Stand tall. Unions don't deserve to live. They are a bain to our existance. Only corporations should have validity. We should be United States of Privite Enterprize Free Capitalist Corporations.


Posted by Rip off, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2012 at 2:10 pm

How can someone with a "Bad Back" play golf even once a week, much less every day?

So how many police chiefs is Pleasanton paying for simultaneously now?


Posted by Rip off, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Oh yes, and it is amazing how the rest of Pleasanton has to work while the rest of these young city retirees can wile away the days and weeks motorcycling around the country....including those with 'bad backs' according to Web Link

"More often the rides begin in Pleasanton with several friends, who include retired police chief Mike Fraser, retired fire chief Bill Cody, retired deputy fire chief Jeff Zolfarelli, and others."


Posted by taxpayer, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 3:38 pm

For Rip Off -- just to be clear about my post, the retired firefighter did not work for Pleasanton, just lives and plays golf here. He worked for San Jose. Retired at 50, full disability, no income taxes ever and that "bad back" does not seem to cause him any problems these days.
People like that give the whole system a bad name. We need to stop the abuse and it needs to happen now.


Posted by Mike, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm

As more and more municipalities face bankruptcy, pension reform becomes the obvious move. You can't expect to last long if you kill the goose that lays the eggs.

Mike


Posted by Steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jun 7, 2012 at 7:43 pm

I agree with the troll also named Steve, except for his constant spelling and grammatical errors.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jun 7, 2012 at 10:21 pm

p.s. I'd correct the troll's spelling and grammatical errers but I don't no how. George Wallace was my hero. And David Duke rocks!@!


Posted by Rip off, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2012 at 11:14 pm

Landslide victories on ballot measures to cut pension costs is a victory for all citizens!!!

In San Jose, nearly 70% of voters Tuesday approved a plan that gives workers the choice between increasing their pension contribution to 13% of their pay, currently 5% to 11%, or switching to a lower-cost plan with reduced benefits.

In San Diego, where pension cuts already have been implemented, voters opted to eliminate pensions for new workers and instead has them switch to a 401(k) program. It also removes elected leaders' ability to improve retirement packages without a popular vote.

Victory!!!


Posted by Truth, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2012 at 11:45 am

Wahhwaaaawaaaa. Get a new hobby you lazy pukes.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on Jun 9, 2012 at 12:35 pm

Any policy that takes money from middle class workers and puts it back into the hands of owners, bartenders, and other people who desert a good life is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.


Posted by Angry taxpayer, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Steve, it is right and good that middle-class TAXPAYERS have the final word on what they pay their employEES !!!
I use to be quite happy with Pleasanton VOLUNTEER firemen..... they could still handle our TWO story town quite well...and we didn't pay ANY retirement ! ! ONLY FOOLS would set up a program to pay their employees MORE than we, ourselves, earned. ANY IDIOT should have been able to see that would be UNsustainable !! again putting faith in electeds was foolish,..but it got them REelected for that moment in time. Appropriate at THIS moment in time, to now clean house of those who sell out or have sold out TAXPAYERS. BIG MISTAKE ! !


Posted by To Angry, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm

The FD is grossly overcompensated in every city in this state.


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