Posted by Leland, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, on Apr 2, 2012 at 10:01 am
I'm glad to see your tax dollars working hard for govt motors. $4000 for a charging station, $1an hour to charge? Pretty soon it adds up to real money.
Personally, I think the investment is worth it for the entertainment value alone.....I'll be waiting near the charging stations on rainy days to witness the fireworks when one of these lemmings gets juiced up.
Posted by Steve, a resident of the Parkside neighborhood, on Apr 2, 2012 at 10:56 am
Hey Leland, I'll meet you at the charging station. Other than pour drinks for a couple hours every day, I'm always looking for an excuse to escape the house. How many hours in a day must a man hear his wife insist he get a full-time job?
Posted by Kathleen Ruegseggerr, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Apr 2, 2012 at 11:13 am
Don't the people buying electric cars hear PG&E firing up their power stations to charge these vehicles? They aren't convincingly "green" (one source says they have to be driven over 80,000 miles before they show a net savings in CO2). Web Link
Posted by Member, a member of the Amador Valley High School community, on Apr 3, 2012 at 9:06 am
I hope the $1/hour is enough to cover the cost of the electricity and the program. It probably is not, considering what my electric bill looks like.
The electric car thing has been such a waste of taxpayer money. Someone with a "green" mentality decided we should pour money into this. The technology isn't there yet. The economics aren't there yet. The government gives people a $10,000 credit to buy a Chevy Volt, and people still won't buy them.
Politicians: Stop using our money to pay for "green" projects.
Posted by Patriot, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 3, 2012 at 10:22 am
That organization starts its research from a biased position. Read the mission statement on their website. That isn't scientific research. There were "studies" of this kind relating to leaded gasoline and smog emissions standards for cars. They were deeply flawed because they set out to prove a result before they did the research.
Posted by Kathleen Ruegseggerr, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Apr 3, 2012 at 11:09 am
Patriot, It was just one of many sites about electric cars; I should have checked more closely. Here is a story from CBS: Web Link (Rebates, when to charge, lower mileage than expected, depends on what state you live in--CA is better than Kentucky.)
My biggest objection is the source of the power is often ignored, perhaps giving one a false sense of being green. I have one example of a government institution wanting to install a charging post (about $8,000) for one person. The individual wasn't going to pay for the post or the "fill."
Anyway, I don't think I'll be in the electric car market.
Posted by zap, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Apr 3, 2012 at 11:27 am
I am definitely going to buy one of these electricMobiles. A friend has one and has said, because he knows it could go up in flames any second, he is much more efficient as he drives. He doesn't dawdle like he once did. He zips from Point A to B much more quickly knowing he might be toast any minute.
Also, it is amazing how others on the freeway "make room" for him allowing him to zip in and out of traffic since other drivers don't want to become part of the toast.
Bottomline...I'll live on the edge. Life is much better knowing you're toast any second.
Posted by Check the source, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 5, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Blindly suck up that dirty carbon-filled electricity....and SO expensive !! PG&E use to include percent and pie charts in our statements, to show the source...sort of embarrassing information these days, now that we are entlightened. ..Shows the hypocrisy of the whole hysterical fraud, and the ignorance of the lemmings.
Posted by Check the source, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 5, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Actually, with all the needs of Americans, I guess it shows the ignorance of fools who allow our tax dollars tO subsidize the purchase, and the ongoing 'fueling'. Why weren't the makers required to have each car provide it's own rooftop solar source. How could we have gotten so far down this road without rooftop sourcing. So obvious ! How could we have gond down so many cockeyed, wrong turn 'roads'......such stupid lemmings.
Posted by Trish, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, on Apr 11, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Soooo...what happens when 20,000 of us drive our electic vehicle to the Super Bowl and we all need to re-charge our vehicles? How many charging stations will we need? What will we do if we have to wait 8 hours...the game won't be long enough to keep us busy? Do we all have to be "armed" in order to be "first" at the charging station?
We will have to pay to use the charging station.
We will see our home electric costs go sky high...less electricity availble for lights and heat...it now goes to charging stations...or our home charger.
We will now have to pay higher yearly vehicle tabs because we will be using less gasoline which means the state will lose the tax money it receives for each gallon used (Many states are already talking about increasing fees according to type of vehicle and the revenues lost.
The electric companies will raise their rates telling us that they need to purchase more products to make electricity.
The electric vehicle costs a fortune to purchase.
The electric vehicle is totally inconvenient.
The electric Vehicle tab fees can be based on the price of the vehicle hence higher tab fees as well as the fee being penalized for not using gasoline.
The electric vehicle will have higher auto insurance rates.
The electric vehicle that is in an accident "can not be touched by first-responders until they are certain that the batteries have been disconnected." In other words...any person injured in an accident takes the risk of dying because no one can touch the car. We could die in a fire or bleed out even though rescue people are on sight.
Electric is great for golf carts...but deadly on the highway.
Posted by GOGreen502, a resident of another community, on Apr 15, 2012 at 8:52 am
One important fact that you did hit on the head is very important and believe me a lot of Cities have over looked......"Involved in a Accident" We are a Electric Vehicle Supply Dealer located in the Midwest and for the last several Months we have been contacting Manufacturers, City Governments, Federal and Almost every Fire House in the US informing them of our one and only Safety Program for our FIrst Responders. We have discovered the lack of training and the inherent danger involved with electric vehicle charging stations, if an catastrophic accident was to happen involving a car vs a charging station things can get bad very fast and the fact of the matter is the NFPA has a training program for the EV but not the EVSE which is the charging stations. We spent thousands of dollars creating this program and was shocked to find out how many cities would pass on the training......EVEN FOR FREE.......We developed a classroom style training and online training for our first responders that covers the dangers involved with EV and EVSE program.
You are right about first responders not being able to help and the fact of the matter is, they want to help but have not been trained and they really do no know what to do ........People need to wake up because with 1.7 million stations by 2015.....someone is going to get injured...Is your City really that safe????