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It is time to vote Republican

Original post made by Resident, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Mar 25, 2012

I am an independent who has supported various candidates, voted for Obama and Brown, but I think that given the state of affairs of our state (California), we need to vote republican, at least at the state level.

Brown is proposing changes in order to get the pension problem under control. The proposals are reasonable and modest, and yet the democrats in Sacramaneto are not behind it. The republicans, on the other hand, have said they will back Brown's proposals:

"At a Capitol press conference, the Republican leaders of both chambers of the legislature -- backed by members of their caucus -- announced their support of Democratic Governor Jerry Brown's pension reform plans, noting in a statement, "We have not changed one comma, one period or one word. This is his plan as he wrote it, and we will stand with him to see it passed."

"Brown's plan -- which would, amongst other things, introduce "hybrid" defined-benefit/defined-contribution plans, raise the retirement age for most public workers, up employee contributions to both health care and retirement plans, and end pension spiking -- isn't perfect. But it's an utterly reasonable first step towards getting the state's metastasizing public sector under control."

"Given their slight numbers, the Republicans' support won't be sufficient to pass Brown's proposals into law. But it does lay down a marker for California's legislative Democrats, who risk looking absolutely beholden to labor interests if they can't get behind relatively modest proposals supported by both a Democratic governor and Republican legislators. If it takes that kind of shame to overcome the Democrats' recalcitrance, so be it. California's fiscal health hangs in the balance."

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I do not see how we can ever fix the pension problem in California if we continue to have a democrat-led legislature. We need to reform the pensions, and we all know the democrats in Sacramento won't do it. Even democrat Brown is willing to fix the problem, but he can't do it alone. He already has the support of the republicans but that won't be enough - we need to get more republicans in the CA legislature, otherwise, we will be bankrupt in no time (already are kind of).

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 25, 2012 at 3:01 pm

"As one California city slogs toward bankruptcy, others may soon try to avoid the same fate by passing pension reforms " that is, if a pro-union state government will let them."

"The financial problems plaguing many of the nation's cities are taking a particularly heavy toll on Stockton, Calif.,"

"That debt includes, but is not limited to, a $400 million liability for its retirees' health care. It has 94 retirees with pensions of $100,000 a year or more. It also has had to cut its police force by almost a third.

In a couple of months, Stockton (population: 292,000) may break a dubious record as the largest U.S. city ever to enter bankruptcy"

"What the unions fear most in bankruptcy is its effect on contracts. If the bankruptcy court so decides, cities can be freed from their collectively bargained obligations. This is what a city in Stockton's situation needs to save itself."

"The state's Public Employee Relations Board has filed a lawsuit to remove a San Diego pension reform initiative from that city's June ballot. San Jose is also slated to vote on a reform measure in June, but union allies in the state Legislature are trying to delay the vote with a state audit of the city's pension projections.

Their reform plans are serious responses to a real crisis. Not only would they set up more sustainable plans for new hires, but they would cut benefits for current workers as well."

"In the face of all this manipulation, Stockton may be doing California a favor just by showing what happens when reform is thwarted. San Diego and San Jose are much larger cities " the second and third largest in the state " and their fiscal collapse could send real shock waves through the state economy and world of municipal finance.

They see the Stockton syndrome, and they can see how to avoid it. The real question is whether the public-sector unions that wield so much power in the state will let them save themselves."

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Posted by A Neighbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 25, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Suggesting that one should vote for a member of a specific party, rather than an individual with ideas and substance, only contributes to the problem. There are plenty of state legislators of both parties who are obstacles to progress, and advocating that "we need to get more republicans in the CA legislature" won't do a darn thing to solve the problems at hand.

Do your homework. Read everything that a candidate says, writes and advocates. Only lazy voters vote the party line.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 25, 2012 at 8:17 pm

A neighbor:

In this case (CA legislature), it is not a bad idea to vote for a party, since the democrats have demonstrated over and over that they are not willing to reform pensions. And we have cities going bankrupt as a result.

Brown, a democrat, has proposed a small reform, which republicans have all said they would support, but the democrats are not willing.

If we keep electing democrats,the pension problem will only get worse.

Look at what the attorney general did. (a democrat who essentially did everything in her power to make sure the pension reform did not go on the ballot)


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Posted by A Neighbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 25, 2012 at 10:38 pm

Again, your generalizations of a legislator's or elected official's character according to their party affiliation is a useless measure of their worth in their position. It is always "a bad idea to vote for a party" rather than a candidate. If you don't like someone's voting record or positions, don't reelect them. It is about the candidate, not their party.

The weakness in the system is compounded by a lazy electorate who take advice advocating a party line vote.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 26, 2012 at 7:34 am

A neighbor:

You are right that we should not vote for a party but for a candidate. I have always done that.

However, in this particular situation, we have a democratic led legislature that refuses to reform pensions. We have a democrat governor who is willing to at least start by making small reforms, and he has the support of the republicans.

I think in this case, it is a good idea to vote for the party rather than individual candidates. What we need is a majority of people in Sacramento who will allow the governor to make the much needed pension reforms. And we know the republicans will, but the democrats won't.

It is not a good idea to vote for a party for president, senate, house of representatives (national level)

But I do not see how, in CA, we will get pension reform if we keep the democrats in the majority in Sacramento.

In CA, it does matter which party is in control in Sacramento, because we have seen how bad the public sector pension problem has become, all because the democrats are unwilling to fix the problem. Not only that, but a democrat intentionally did her best to kill the ballot initiative that would have allowed voters to have a say as far as pension reform.


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Posted by Stockton Evaque-ee
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 26, 2012 at 10:09 am

We have a vi-able option. The Tea Party. You can call us all hicks, hayseeds and hillbillies, but we form the back bone of this country. Think about the Shays rebellion and the pitchforks. Pleasanton and the rest of the state needs additional Tea Party country flavor in the legislaiture.


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Posted by Just another hick
a resident of Valley Trails
on Mar 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm

I might be another hick, but if somebody wants to do there country proud, then they should vote for the uppoulders of the constitution. For me that means Tea Party. Proud and true.


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