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When will republicans learn?

Original post made by My 2 cents, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Feb 14, 2012

It looks like Santorum is a potential GOP nominee - yikes! When will the GOP learn?

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There is no way Santorum, a guy who does not even believe in evolution, can win the general election, even though Obama is not doing a good job.

Why don't you come up with a good candidate, GOP? So now Romney has to go around trying to win the "conservative vote" ? Come on, if you insist on suppurting a candidate like Santorum or forcing a candidate like Romney to make statements that will hurt him in the general election, you are making sure Obama gets re-elected, and that will be awful (but better than the right wing in full control, with a minority of backwards thinking individuals speaking for the GOP and making them lose - like in 2008)

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Posted by Waiting for a sign
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Feb 14, 2012 at 10:29 am

The only hope for us Republicans is a brokered convention when we can elevate Sarah Palin to her rightful position as presidential candidate as well as intellectual leader of our Party. Palin-Cain in 2012! Obambi is bad, way way bad.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm

It's going to be very interesting to see what happens in the next election. Over the past year on these forums and others I've seen many posts by conservatives claiming that "Obama is the worst President ever" and how happy they'll be when the next election comes around so that nearly everyone - including many the disillusioned liberals - will vote in a conservative President who will set things right. Well, things don't appear to be proceeding according to that script. Lately, it looks like many conservatives are looking at the approaching election with a bit of worry because they're starting to realize that they haven't been able to come up with anyone who can come up and beat Obama. And what does that say about the Republican party if they can't find a candidate who can beat the "worst President in the history of the U.S"? I guess that must logically mean that the Republican party has the worst candidates in the history of the U.S., doesn't it?

So it appears that all this past conservative rhetoric about Obama being the worst President in history is going to backfire on conservatives. If Obama is really as bad and unpopular as they say he is, then it should be easy for them to find someone to beat him. If they can't beat Obama it means either (1) Obama isn't as bad and unpopular as they say he is or (2) the Republican party is totally dysfunctional. Either way, the Republican party can't make any excuses for losing this time.


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Posted by Morris
a resident of Mission Park
on Feb 14, 2012 at 1:52 pm

There's another explanation Sam. If we lose, its because the American people are being brainwashed by the liberal media. Look at how they crucified Gingrich. At least he's an American citizen.


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Posted by Seriously
a resident of Downtown
on Feb 14, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Morris, if you don't believe our president is an American citizen then YOU are the one being brainwashed by the media (or Faux News).


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Posted by Winner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 14, 2012 at 5:25 pm

PW ?!?!?! ..in an instant ! here she is again, pestering THIS thread ! Back as "Waiting for a sign', posing as a Repub, but really a paid UNION ACTIVIST ! ! She's all over the Neighborhood Market thread, and School Board thread.
Her technique is to pretend while ridiculing and mocking, etc. She still has time before her union school meeting tonight.


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Posted by Winner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 14, 2012 at 5:34 pm

"Waiting"s intent is to PREVENT any serious, or thoughtful exchange on the given topic. After all she's a UNION activist, so she does not want any intelligent conversation conflicting with her union position. That's why she gets in immediately....STOP the exchange...after all her union position is more important than our government, our economy, our elections....union life is more important than anything !


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Posted by clink
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 14, 2012 at 5:39 pm

The GOP / Teas have gotten their lunch handed to them. They cannot respond to the O Problem. They cannot respond to their own kind. The conservative movement is all talk when it comes to making something happen. Yeah! Let's have these guys run a country ... I stand for hating gays (although my sister is gay) ... I stand for purity although I aint that pure you know what I mean ... I stand for just being dumb cause I am a pretty girl that can TESTIFY ... drone drone drone


Put up or shut up time repubs


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Posted by Winner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 14, 2012 at 6:04 pm

Clink, is your last name Yuger??? First, you cannot use GOP/Teas interchangeably. Teas proudly destroy Repubs...and run candidates against incumbent republicans. TPers much prefer Dems over a repub they don't think is 100% obedient. They constantly trash Reagan who believed anybody you agreed with 80% of the time was your friend...which they violate daily...so, Dems are safe !!
(usually, you're LUCKY if you can find an 80% spouse!...most
comprise, yet would defend their happy marriage ! go figure)
But, Social consservatives/TPers would happily destroy the party clicking thru the list of less than viable... 100percenters.


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Posted by Waiting for a sign
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Feb 14, 2012 at 7:02 pm

I agree with Winner. The PW should not allow unionized posters on these threads. It's unAmerican. Because unions are bad, and I mean really really bad. Help save us from the union drones who make fun of us. We're not as stupid as they make us out to be. Honest. This isn't a funny matter at all. Being ridiculed as a bunch of silly ninnies!!!! We're actually smart, really really smart. And we know Obama's behind all of this mockery of solid, intelligent, conservative conversation. He's evil, really really evil. Sarah Palin for President in 2012!


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Posted by clink
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 14, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Winner! You had a pretty good post. I appreciate that!!!!


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Posted by Ralph
a resident of Castlewood
on Feb 15, 2012 at 10:22 am

This race could well go to a brokered convention. If Jeb Bush is proposed, so Sarah Palin should be minutes later. She is now and always has been the singular Jacksonian voice in the original Tea Party phenomenon; the only one who can bring it to the mainstream. Her absence from the primary race has left a vacuum and no substitute has been found. Every other possible or potential leadership hopeful has risen and receded in this long Republican primary season. Besides, she's smarter than all the rest of them, and I'd like to take her out on a date. I [heart] Sarah in 2012. Obama = Nope.


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Posted by Winner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 15, 2012 at 10:49 am

Sarah would not WIN in Nov! It is suicide to choose people you like, or says insane things. "Winning doesn't mean primary!" You haven't WON anything, until you WIN in the General election in November ! That means getting all the Independents. 40% Dems, 40% Repbubs, roughly, are easy and predictable. The 'deciders' of who wins are 20% decline-to-state voters in the middle. Otherwise, you're on the outside, looking in, for 4 more years. So hold out for 'your 100 percenter', like it's all about 'you', and just complain that everything is so bad for another 4 years. It's all about numbers...strictly math, state by state ....not meaningless activist caucuses!. Incumbents usually win anyway. Why do you think Air Force One is now in CA so often? It just another withdrawal.


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Posted by Winner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 15, 2012 at 11:16 am

Ralph, a brokered convention would be Obama's largest campaign fundraising event for 2012. Weren't the two week circus events enough, one by one, for Bachman, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, and now Santorum.


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Posted by My 2 cents
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 15, 2012 at 12:18 pm

"Mitt Romney is learning that there are costs to an ugly, extended primary fight marked by a rush to the far right. Independent voters get alienated by the extremism."

"Independents outnumber Democrats or Republicans and how they swing will determine the winner of the next election."

"the fight for the right that is now the focus of these primaries is souring independents on the GOP"

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Posted by Winner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 15, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Thanks for sharing, 2cents. Dems are rooting for a brokered convention. The social conservatives, like always, have demonstrated the extreme candidates and extreme lengths they will go to get an extremely social candidate, clicking thru the list ....all the while, forgetting that they want to beat Obama ! duh !
It's almost hopeless, they have cheered unstable, irratic, emotional Gingrich on in his attacks to destroy Romney. Gingrich has done damage....we can only hope he hasn't totally destroyed the election.
Florida, the largest and most representative cross-section of the country was a big win for Mitt. If the zealots would stop eating their own, and allow a sensible campaign. Romney could still have
the delegates, and emerge a party ready to go get Obama, which should be the focus. No term is ever what was planned, always a dotcom bubble, mortgage bubble, Enron or accounting scandal, a 9-1-1, some surprise...always. All I know is I want the most intelligent, most educated, cleanest, most scandal-free, outside Washington leader, no political insiders, so I can relax, knowing he will deal with surprise messes (like near-cancelled,disaster Olympics) and rescue and solve problems that will certainly develop. and....as a bonus, he has a truly delightful wife (a former 'first-lady').
If only the party would get out of his way !!! and on to rescue our country.


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Posted by Former Student
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 15, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Agreed, I don't see how Santorum is now the front runner. When I hear him speak, my ears bleed and my IQ decreases exponentially. He is quite entertaining, though, accusing Obama of imposing his rights on the country...even though Santorum is the one who wants to make this a Christian nation.

Boo hoo, Obama sucks waa waa he's destroying this country. Oh, please,


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Posted by Bob Richardson
a resident of Happy Valley
on Feb 16, 2012 at 2:38 pm

I can't understand why Independents are swinging against Romney. I'm an Independent who voted for Obama in 2008, but not in 2012. He's the worst president in the history of this country. He's in over his head, really really over his head. Have you seen how he's decimated the tanning salon industry? First they came after the tanning salons, and I said nothing. Next they came after the tobacco shops, and I said nothing. Don't let it happen to you, because things are going to get bad, really really bad. Go to tsunamicpensiones.com


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Posted by Former Student
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 16, 2012 at 2:46 pm

Obama is the worst president ever because he taxed companies that cause cancer? What are you, some kind of diva smoker? Also one president can't possibly cause pension debt, that's completely ludicrous.


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Posted by Bob Richardson
a resident of Happy Valley
on Feb 16, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Former student says: "Obama is the worst president ever because he taxed companies that cause cancer?"

It's all part of the plot to crucify the business community in this country. It's statism. The govt shouldn't be regulating our lives or deaths. War on cancer? That's just a pretense for waging war against people who are tan and short of breath. I'm telling you, next he'll be coming after religion on the pretext that he's interested in saving women's lives and protecting their health interests. People only care about themselves. He's not fooling me. He's really really bad. The worst. Really. Trust me.

PS A tsunami is coming!


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Posted by Former Student
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 16, 2012 at 3:54 pm

You've got a steep slippery slope there, Bob. I think people like you just throw around the term "war" without thinking of the connotation that's wrapped with it. Obama is not coming after religion, nothing about what he's done/hasn't done doesn't suggest that at all. You are obviously referring to the pointless debate on his plan for women's contraception. Having insurance companies provide free contraception is not an imposition on anyone's rights and it is not an attack on religious freedom.

Obama's not fooling you because he isn't trying to fool anyone. But apparently your source of information is fooling you.


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Posted by My 2 cents
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm

"I can't understand why Independents are swinging against Romney"

Because he is trying too hard to be liked by the republican extremes. That is dangerous, because we will have supreme court justices appointed in the next presidential term, and we can't afford more conservatives appointed.

I read that Romney is promising to undo the birth control policy recently proposed. I thought that he was moderate but.....


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Posted by Horace
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Dang socialist Commie Obammie, trying to shove conterceptives on businesses just trying to make a buck! No how, no way! is what I say. Just as long as my Viagra is still covered by insurance, I'm set.


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Posted by Bob Richardson
a resident of Happy Valley
on Feb 17, 2012 at 5:01 pm

Obama is waging war against religion. People are being encouraged to just have fun. If you want to sleep with someone else and they agree, the Democrats just think you should be able to do that. It's social engineering. And then they prescribe viagra for all the immoral leftists, and you have the brainwashed Horace spouting the liberal line. Liberal Democrat Party is against theocracy, but they're a theocracy itself. A theocracy of feel good and freedom to do what you want. They even supported the Mosque going up at ground zero.


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Posted by Horace
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 17, 2012 at 6:26 pm

Eh? "A theocracy of feel good and freedom to do what you want." But that's what we Republicans stand for: nobody should be telling no one what to do, we don't need no nanny state!


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Posted by Bob Richardson
a resident of Happy Valley
on Feb 17, 2012 at 10:03 pm

I agree. Except for women being able to do what they want with their bodies and gays being able to get married and black people who think they should be able to trample on restaurant owners' freedom by sitting big as you please at their lunch counters. No shoes, no shirt, not the right color, no service!


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Posted by Bob Richardson
a resident of Happy Valley
on Feb 19, 2012 at 9:06 am

I think the Republicans are in really really good shape. The more the economy goes sour and the more we learn about the candidates the stronger the Republican Party will be. As long as the lamestream media doesn't crucify Newt Gingrich any more than it has, we'll be okay. I don't think America is ready for a second term with a Democrat Party noncitizen president. Besides, Obama is in way over his head. And he's not a true Christian.


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Posted by Waiting for a sign
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Feb 19, 2012 at 10:54 pm

"When will Republicans learn?" How about when will Democrat Party learn??? Until Obama and the other socialist heathens submit to a higher power, we'll have tyranny on earth. The 50 colonies met in Houston back in 1792 to agree that we are a nation under God Almighty. Right now, there's only one man who can deliver us from evil.


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Posted by houston?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 19, 2012 at 11:59 pm

1792? I must have totally missed that chapter in my U.S. History class!


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Posted by Former Student
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 20, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Sometimes I think some people on here are just trolling...but then again I wouldn't put it past certain citizens of P-town to say completely backwards and retarded statements. 50 colonies. In 1792. Houston. What does that even mean? "Waiting for a sign," when will you learn? And by learn, I mean literally go back to school and take 8th grade history.


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Posted by Sanity is voting for Santorum
a resident of Dublin
on Feb 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm

I'm not sure reading our history books are of much help any more. They are only written by elitists at public universities who want to indoctrinate us all so that we make the same liberal loony sounds like they do. I'm an independent and voted for Obama, but I'll never vote for him again. His radical Islamic environmental polices are helping the terrorists in the Middle East and they're weakening our economy. Our duty isn't to serve the earth. Our duty is to serve God as a higher power. And God will take care of the earth.


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Posted by Gas
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 20, 2012 at 6:37 pm

Got gas today and paid $4.09 cents a gallon for regular. I voted for Obama last time and big mistake. Since he became President everything which should be up is down and everything which should be down is up. I do not care who is up for office, I am voting against the liberals this time. Their stuff is a disaster.


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Posted by Former Student
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 20, 2012 at 6:59 pm

Obama isn't responsible for higher gas prices. He was screwed from the start with the whole gas issue thanks to Bush. And "sanity," it isn't our duty to serve god. It may be yours, but it isn't the country's.


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Posted by Waiting for a sign
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Feb 20, 2012 at 7:36 pm

Always quick to blame perhaps our greatest president, George W. Bush, for the topsy-turvy upside-is-downside world of Owebama. Obama shouldn't be placating Iran with sanctions. That only leads to higher gas prices. We need to bomb Iran with our nuclear arsenal. Show them how truly exceptional we are. I guarantee you, the next Republican president will have gas prices down to under 2.50 a gallon. This is a national security crisis, and right now Obama is a high national security risk for all Americans. I'd never vote for him. He doesn't even believe in God. How can we be one nation under God when we have a nonChristian president who wasn't born in this country and who sympathizes with terrorists? Talk about topsy-turvy! Everything that should be up is down and everything that should be down is up. And I mean really up. Obama is bad news, and I'm not kidding. He really is.


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Posted by Former Student
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 20, 2012 at 7:45 pm

We are not a nation under god. And low gas prices are useless if the entire population is killed in a nuclear war.


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Posted by My 2 cents
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 22, 2012 at 8:33 am

An interesting article about Santorum vs Romney and republicans vs Obama:

"Notably, the survey showed the president dominating among independents, a group central to Obama's 2008 victory, whose support for him had faltered in recent months. According to the poll, 6 in 10 independents would choose Obama over any of the Republicans."

"There was good news for Republicans, too: Any of the four Republican candidates would likely top Obama among those age 65 and over, as well as among whites without college degrees."

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