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Gov. Brown Should Learn from Michigan's Governor...

Original post made by Conservative Solution on Feb 11, 2012

Michigan's Republican Governor, Rick Snyder, didn't just balance the budget. He's putting $130,000,000 into a rainy day fund. Maybe Obama, Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats should take notice.

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Posted by Conservative Solution, a resident of Amador Estates
on Feb 11, 2012 at 11:58 am

PS...

Other gubernatorial benchmarks our 'esteemed' Governor Brown could use are...

North Dakota
Texas
Indiana
Louisana
Wisconsin

The above states are doing better than average despite this (deliberately) disastrous Obama-Economy. Wonder why? Could it be reduced taxes, limited government, reduced State regulations, reduced Union-interference? Hmmmm...


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm

"Michigan's Republican Governor, Rick Snyder, didn't just balance the budget. He's putting $130,000,000 into a rainy day fund. Maybe Obama, Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats should take notice."

Yeah, he did it in part by cutting over $1 billion from K-12 education, or by about $430 per student. Sure makes me want to move my kids and family to Michigan. On the other hand, that means Michigan property values take a big hit so you can probably get a good deal by selling your expensive Pleasanton house (with its value boosted due to our excellent schools here) and buying a house in wonderful Michigan. Sayonara. Send us a postcard once you get settled in Detroit.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 11, 2012 at 2:59 pm

"Lawmakers cut the overall annual funding level for K-12 public schools by $6.3 billion, from $50.3 billion in 2007-08 to $44.1 billion in 2009-10. Lawmakers cut schools' general purpose dollars as well as funds earmarked for specific school programs, often referred to as categoricals. Adding to schools' financial stress, since 2008-09 the state has also deferred $6.3 billion in payments to schools. The delay in payments forced many school districts to borrow and pay interest on loans or make program cuts."

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Posted by Chelle, a resident of Rosewood
on Feb 11, 2012 at 4:08 pm

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'm moving to Texas and set up a sidewalk taco stand. (Somebody needs to move to North Korea.)


Posted by clink, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 11, 2012 at 9:09 pm

Is it the governor's fault we have a deficit or the mental state of government worker's that by sheltering themselves in the womb of socialistic havens and unions so they can have parity with the private sector - at our expense of course. We need to understand that we are hard pressed to get rid of the government worker. I ask myself this question: What purpose does a paper shuffler serve?


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Feb 12, 2012 at 9:49 am

Found this thought-provoking article on the New York Times. Sort of brings home the point that we ourselves are the one of the biggest causes of government overspending and the recipients of so many tax dollars.

"Even Critics of Safety Net Increasingly Depend on It"
(Web Link)

No easy solutions....


Posted by ., a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 12, 2012 at 11:21 pm

You know, what is crazy is the right's hypocrisy. They are the problem, with their obstructionist behavior. Their hypocrisy? Is that they do to our country what they accuse President Obama of doing.


Posted by Klisvak, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 15, 2012 at 8:38 am

Sam........by selling your expensive Pleasanton house (with its value boosted due to our excellent schools here). Are you a Pleasanton school graduate? You should have you head examined.


Posted by AnnaS, a resident of Foothill High School
on Feb 15, 2012 at 2:04 pm

"Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre
Governor Brown would do much better job if he would know that he can actually lose his position for not doing it right.
Californians need to listen less to politically-correct propaganda and to learn real history and economy. Then, they can learn on somebody else's experience what happened when people choose redistribution of wealth over creation of wealth and equality over liberty.


Posted by JAC, a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Feb 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Our excellent schools are really a thing of the past along with our excellent credit. Too many years of borrowing to make the government payroll. Too much money wasted in education statewide with $500 million dollar high schools, teachers who commit felonies allowed to keep their pensions/health care ins. for life and when any teacher/school administrator can retire with a pension payment over $150,000/year in their mid 50's (which, if they live to collect from say 55 to 85 will equal over $4.5 million dollars) not amount of tax increases will ever fix this mess. And with the current brain trust in Sac I have little faith they could work their way out of paper bag....so good for Michigan, Detroit got plenty of our tax dollars to bail out of automakers so at least some of it is going into a rainy day fund - it will never happen here.


Posted by LuvPleasanton, a resident of Downtown
on Feb 15, 2012 at 11:13 pm

Please get EDUCATED on the dire circumstance of California's and USA finances ... PensionTsunami.com ... Greece is a perfect example of what happens when the welfare state overcomes a state's ability to pay (bankruptcy - riots in the streets)... we have real life examples happening today - Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc. don't think it won't happen here... you are kidding yourself and certainly not doing your children and grandchildren any favors by ignoring the situation... Government employees and their beneficiaries that live off of tax payer dollars will do nothing unless we vote them out and do what is necessary to stabilize our financial condition - great examples are Michigan, Wisconsin, Texas, Indiana, Louisiana, etc who made govt changes and are prepared to weather the STORM!!!!! by the way California's "great" Education system is ranked at the bottom of the heap...

Who is going to bail us out .... CHINA!?!? ... you get what you ask for .... Keep your head in the sand


Posted by DB , a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 16, 2012 at 9:07 am

If Californian's paid any attention to history they wouldn't have re-elected career politician Brown. His last governorship was a disaster, and guess what, history is repeating itself! What surprise!


Posted by Anon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 16, 2012 at 9:24 am

Yes, good old Wisconsin, which has lost jobs each of the past 6 months while most other states have been gaining. Great policies there! Or how about Florida? I guess they didn't qualify for praise because the $1B their governor (former fraudulent CEO) removed from the school system when right into the hands of his corporate friends in tax breaks they didn't even need or ask for. So I guess since nothing went to the coffers there, that behavior is less praise-worthy... But it's consistent with the far right's hatred of public education. Better to keep the population stupid so they'll believe them and Fox "News."


Posted by LuvPleasanton, a resident of Downtown
on Feb 16, 2012 at 1:40 pm

You can "Cherry Pick" numbers all day long and distract from the conversation as all "liberals" do ... but I lived through the 70s and gas lines, 20% mortgages, double digit inflation, bowing to our enemies and I thank God for the 80s (Reagan) when it was cool to embrace our flag, the entrepreneurial spirit was celebrated, limited government was the mantra, technology innovation and business flourished and the 90s when the people were awakened and educated by Perot on how government fiscal responsibility is the way to success.... the first Republican congress in 40 years - a balanced budget, welfare reform, economic BOOM! everyone's boat was lifted!... I only hope that my children and grand children are able to experience the same renaissance ... the Tea Party reminds me of the early 90s ... I only hope it is not too late ... Please educate yourself ... PensionTsunami.com is a good start


Posted by Anon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 16, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Yes, you clearly cherry pick as well...


Posted by Hank, a resident of Danbury Park
on Feb 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Reagan was best for everyone. The average worker's wage stayed the same over the next 30 years, and rich people's increased by nearly 300 percent. What's not to like? Boom! Obama is in over his head. I've crunched the numbers, and he's the worst president ever, really I'm not kidding. Go to tsunamicpensiones.com to learn about how the wealthy fatcats in Greece managed to avoid paying taxes, and how they're now laughing their heads off as Greek govt implements austerity measures on the little people.


Posted by Anon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 16, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Funny thing is that in today's GOP, Reagan would have no chance... he'd be considered moderate _at best_ given how he raised taxes on the rich, supported social programs like Social Security, and made other compromises (eek!) Frankly, many of Obama's moves have been more conservative than Reagan, and yet Obama is somehow the most liberal person ever...


Posted by LuvPleasanton, a resident of Downtown
on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:08 pm

It is amazing when I read comments on these boards and watch it happen in real time... hopefully the middle class wakes up before it is too late ...

How can the centralized State accumulate unlimited power, while still retaining the outward form of a democracy? This question has been the obsession of the American Left for over a century. The answer lies in subduing the middle class, which is always the deadly enemy of statism. To subdue the middle class, it must be made dependent upon the State. Middle class voters must, at some critical juncture, voluntarily relinquish a terminal amount of their economic freedom. The trick is keeping them quiet while the State passes the event horizon of growth.

Three crucial techniques are needed to get the State past the point of no return. First, an open-ended mission is needed. It must be possible for the State to define the terms of this mission, so that no one can ever say it has been completed, or that the State has failed.

The second key to the unbounded State lies in convincing the populace that government power should not be limited by arbitrary rules. This is very important, and the American Left has enjoyed considerable success. The idea that a centuries-old Constitution, written by colonial slave owners, should restrain the enlightened modern State is routinely ridiculed.

Finally, it is necessary to persuade the middle class to think of itself as poor. Simple logic must be abandoned, in favor of soothing promises. The depth of its compassion must be the only yardstick by which the State is judged. In a fascinating example of this process, President Obama actually demanded passage of an extension to his "payroll tax cut" raid on Social Security by saying people needed the extra $40 per paycheck to pay for gas. This from the president whose policies have increased the price of gas by 90 percent in just three years! (In case you're wondering, no, the peanuts from his "payroll tax cut" don't quite offset the increased gasoline prices he's inflicted upon us… and he's working on getting gas to $5 per gallon this summer.)

The politics of extending the "payroll tax cut" are supposedly irresistible. Nobody wants to "raise taxes on the middle class" right now. Can you imagine a point in the future when it will ever be a winning proposition to oppose another extension for that extra $40 per paycheck? Of course not. The middle class has been conditioned to think of itself as poor, and therefore dependent on whatever crumbs Washington tosses them. The unbounded State beckons. We're almost there.
—John Hayward


Posted by Hank, a resident of Danbury Park
on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:38 pm

Yes, yes, I see! America's middle classes should not be tricked into thinking themselves too poor to not get an extension of the payroll tax cut. Instead, the state should not extend the payroll tax cut. The middle class might be poorer, but they won't be tricked into thinking they're poor by the very very clever state.

If we can empower the middle class by making them realize that they are not poor and that they should give up more of their tax money -- especially the poor people who don't pay their fair share -- they'll be more dependent on private corporate power instead. Corporations -- e.g., mass lamestream media -- don't have enough power because the state runs everything. The tipping point will come when the tsunami reaches our shores. The calculus is complex, but readily predictable if you do the math.

We need to reclaim the Constitution and we do that by recalibrating the thirteen founding fathers' original intent. They clearly didn't want women in the voting booth. And now look what's happening. The state has overstepped its bounds by making it relatively easy to get contraceptives, mammograms, and even abortions (except in N.Dakota and other really progressive states that recognize the need to scale back on tyrannizing doctors by forcing them to not treat women who need abortions).

The unbounded state is almost here. Obama has shown his capacity to intrude into our lives with the excessive added taxes he placed on tanning salons and tobacco stores. It will hit us like a tsunami.


Posted by Lewis, a resident of another community
on Mar 4, 2012 at 9:54 pm

I'm not in favor of all government employees/positions/programs; however, giving the example of AB109 (prison reform), if we get rid of government positions, especially those with security pensions (police and probation officers) who is going to supervise these criminals when they return to our communities? You think getting rid of government employees will solve problems, admittedly it will solve some, but when you talk about getting rid of public safety positions you should think twice about your safety and the safety of you family....most of you wouldn't know whether to sh!t of go blind if ever confronted by a probationer, gang member or drug addict!


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