Boy Rescued from Fall down Cliff Crimes & Incidents, posted by nancy s., a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 1, 2011 at 10:06 pm
I am glad the boy was rescued, but nowhere in the Pleasanton Weekly article did it mention the boys were TRESPASSING. The story was covered elsewhere and gave the full facts "boys were on private property, trespassing, when this occured.
Posted by comments deleted, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 1, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Not only did the PW fail to state the trespassing information, they also deleted comments about the article and locked the thread. Apparently, it is not allowed to criticize an entitled Pleasanton kid whose parents allow them to trespass and be rescued at taxpayer expense.
Posted by Ruth, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 2, 2011 at 12:21 am
Fact is, Pleasanton is a bad town for kids to grow up in. Their parents are for the most part either first-generation wealthy or wealthy wannabe's. Their lives have been spent fetishizing money, and other aspects of their lives have suffered. When they're not obsessing how to become rich, they're obsessing about how the state is taking their money away from them.
You can see it downtown where I live. The restaurant/bars are classless. The streets are filled with bored and alienated youth who have not been taught the value of reading and writing. They're into drugs, hanging out, fantasizing about what they'll do once they become rich - and save for some inheritance, that ain't going to happen.
Parents in Ptown brag about baseball player sons, or their kids being accountants, or their kids going to Alabam or Colorado. Parents complain about education without knowing anything about it other than that it puts a dent in their income earnings. Right-wing self-professed know-it-alls try to steer the workings of school administration without ever having read classic treatises on bureaucratic systems and structures; confronted with a concept like 'ideology' or 'morality' they freeze up like deer caught in headlights.
The city suffers because it has no university center -- e.g., UW in Seattle, UPenn or Temple in Philly, UM in Mpls, Columbia in NY. In fact, so many of Ptown's denizens moved to Pleasanton to escape urban life, which often includes at least a half-way decent university. Mention university in Ptown and you'll likely start up a conversation about what it would take to start up a golf college.
Not enough professors living in the neighborhoods; not enough serious and slightly older 'peers' who are hitting the books every night at the college/univ library; not enough cafes and coffee houses where kids are talking about how to save the world. Nope, their parents can only think about money and then fob that "value" upon their children. Well, kids are smart and recognize the hollowness of such a "value." But the community, beset by sickness of acquisitiveness from every which direction, is unable to offer the kids any constructive alternative beyond "try to become rich like me."
These threads are highly indicative of the problem. Local yokel richy wannabe's who can't even spell furlough (furlow), collared by mind-numbing ideologies that tell them that which feeds their biases against people of color who they've spent their lives trying to escape out of fear and ignorance. Their pursuit of money left then apparently no time to read and reflect on the beauties and potentials of diversity. No, only ignorance and hate. And the unfortunate sons and daughters we all see shuffling down the streets at night see through it all but, because of bad parenting and the lack of a college/univ anchor in the city, don't know where to turn.
So, first poster opines that parents of the kid with the broken leg
must be fined for the rescue. Nice. A fiscal conservative, no doubt. Real community values at work, yes? No, unfortunately not. Like I say. To live in Ptown is to be surrounded by sickness. Too bad for the kids.
Posted by hummm, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 2, 2011 at 12:25 am
There was a SF couple that were killed in Yosemite in part because they went beyond the safety warnings. People responded with "Don't be unsafe" type response. Phil Bronstein, the publisher of the SF Chronicle blew a gasket about the responses. Evidently he was a personal friend of the victims. I'm not sure why editors react to situations that would ordinarily be normal news, but it seems they do.
I'm just trying to make heads or tails out of the sensitive nature to a criminal act that resulted in near catastrophe.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Aug 2, 2011 at 7:26 am
Nancy S said; "I am glad the boy was rescued, but nowhere in the Pleasanton Weekly article did it mention the boys were TRESPASSING. The story was covered elsewhere and gave the full facts "boys were on private property, trespassing, when this occurred."
Nancy, why don't you give a link or source to this story that was "covered elsewhere and gave full facts"?
I'm not sure where this incident took place. Ruby Hill itself doesn't appear to have any water areas with 30-foot cliffs. There's Shadow Cliffs, but that doesn't seem to be the area being implied by the story. There are two areas that look like small reservoirs just northwest and northeast of Ruby Hill. Perhaps one of those areas is where this happened.
As for the trespassing charge, yeah if they were in one of these areas then it was probably trespassing. But lighten up. These two water areas are not in any residential areas. They didn't bust down any homeowner's fence and trample through his flower garden to get to the water. And they didn't break into any townhome or HOA community's pool area. It was a hot day, and they are young kids and wanted to have some fun at the old watering hole. When I was a young kid my friends and I did that too and, yes, we were technically trespassing. But we grew up and became good law-abiding citizens. These kids will, too.
If you want to see kids with troubles, take a look at the crime reports coming out of Oakland and other troubled cities where there are 16-year old kids with guns being arrested for drug dealing and murder. Try using a little perspective.
Posted by Julie, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 2, 2011 at 1:02 pm Julie is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
I admit I didn't read the entire article. But, aren't some of you reading a lot into this? He was a kid who made a dumb mistake and fortunately the consequence wasn't death. Fortunately most of us grow up and out of such behaviour. I'm absolutely not condoning it, but to suggest that such behaviour is indicative only of the rich and spoiled?? I'd say it's more indicative of the young and restless! Emergency services exist for all of us. I bet they are called out for lots of "dumb" situations that people (even adults!) could have avoided. If he were my kid I'd definitely have a consequence beyond the broken limb, but I think paying back the "taxpayers" is IMHO...ridiculous.
Posted by Hmmmm, a resident of the Civic Square neighborhood, on Aug 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Sam at Oak Hill wants to deny that Pleasanton is a sick culture. He compares to Oakland. Hmmmm, comparing a small and extremely wealthy city to Oakland doesn't strike me as fair. I wonder if he would care to compare Ptown with some of Oakland's better neighborhoods. I think you'd find the latter's kids to be far more intellectually nourished and psychologically healthy. Ruth @ downtown seems to make very good sense. Money can't buy you everything.