Tell Congress to Repeal "Don't ask don't tell" State, National, International, posted by holly blash, a resident of the Las Positas Garden Homes neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Discrimination is discrimination. Last I checked, ALL Americans are equal under the law... Concerned, contributing, patriotic, Tax Paying Americans are being denied the right to defend their country! If only heterosexual people can go and die and/or get maimed in the defense of our country... whom do you think will be left to run things back here? Hmmmm? Maybe there is a plan in action?
Stronger families and stronger community can only Strengthen US.
Posted by Bert, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Why, Stacey? So that all adult Americans have equal rights. Before 1948, it was illegal for adults of different races to marry. If I said it's a good thing that people of different races can marry, would you say 'why'?
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2008 at 7:08 pm
holly, why vote for gay marriage?
Bert, it isn't illegal for two people to enter into such a contract between themselves (because a marriage is essentially a contract). Why does this need sanctioning from the government? Many states and companies already provide domestic partnership benefits. Is it just because of the word "marriage"? (I'm not of an opinion one way or another on this topic. I'd just like to hear reasons why to vote for or against it.)
Posted by holly, a resident of the Las Positas Garden Homes neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Well lets see, "why" based on partnership/marriage being a choice and personal agreement. If a couple can "marry" under the laws (of recognition) of the United States (not just California) they are granted the inalienable rights - some 1001++ - that a simple agreement between equals cannot and will not grant.
The federal government does not grant survivor benefits or transfer thereof, visitation, adoption rights, social security transfer, house ownership tax releif, married tax right offs for any property or business...
If two people are committed and choose to spend the rest of their lives together and possibly raise children, own a business, join the military, leave legacy they are denied this (basic rights) based upon basic bigotry and discrimination which does not jibe with the original premise of the constitution.
Posted by Janna, a resident of the Mission Park neighborhood, on Jul 22, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Holly, can you please clarify your post? I think I'm reading it one way, but don't want to jump to conclusions. I'm really hoping I'm reading it incorrectly.
While there are companies that accommodate domestic partnerships, I think it only applies to men and women living together, not gay couples. There are day-to-day situations we deal with easily in our married lives while gay couples aren't afforded the same ease in those same situations, even though they may consider themselves married. Imagine spending your life with someone and then finding out they can't even visit you in the hospital ICU because they aren't legally family. That would be heartbreaking in my opinion, especially if the person was dying. I don't think 'sanctioned' is the right word here. I think it should be adequate to be legally recognized by the government in the same way married heterosexual couples are legally recognized. I really don't get what the big deal is as far as people who are against this, but then I'm a liberal who believes in equality for every human.
Posted by holly, a resident of the Las Positas Garden Homes neighborhood, on Jul 23, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Hmmm... Are you proposing that all Love is sacred and should be recognized as equal? And perhaps we can do away with the recognition of "marriage" as a separate institution?
Very interesting and a bit Zen. If, as you say, "i deeply love another person, of the same sex, but only as a person" are you speaking about non-sexual, non-life time committed partnership love?
As above (first paragraph) if we do away with the institution of marriage and the recognition of the caste system of married v. non-married, monogamous v. non-monogamous and the whole legitimate v. non-legitimate (I personally do not recognize "illegitimate" as a category for any human)then are we all "family" and responsible for/to each other as family?