Pleasanton School District Salaries Now Online Schools & Kids, posted by Information, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 11:28 am
The Bay Area News Group has just put a database online that lists out the salaries, pensions costs, and other income for all employees of the Pleasanton Unified School District. The data is for 2010.
The website is at www dot mercurynews dot com /salaries/bay-area/2010: Web Link
Go there and select Pleasanton Unified School Dist. from the drop-down box Entity and press Search.
This is the info the district was trying to keep private until after the election.
You will see our highest salary for 2010 was our Asst. Superintendent of Business Services, who had a total cost of employment of $221,931. This was her base salary of $179,054, "other" income of $4,800, district cost for her pension of $19,145, and "Misc." (other non-cash compensation) of $18,931. Puts the total at $221,931.
Going through the list you will see there are 279 employees of the district whose total cost of employment is over $100,000.
The database has positions and names of people and you can search on specific items. You can search by site, including the District Office.
Much thanks for the Bay Area News Group for putting this together for the public.
You can also see the City of Pleasanton information for 2010. Pay close attention to the category of "Other" and whose names has two stars after it. The two stars indicate they retired that year and the Other income was used to spike their pensions.
Posted by No surprise, a resident of the Charter Oaks neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Not an apples to apples comparison, PUSD teachers pay for their medical and dental benefits. In nearly every industry administraters and managers provide themselves extremely well overpaid salaries, they write rules and have influence leaving teachers as paupers.
If teachers are so well paid, why is there a shortage?
Posted by I AM OUTRAGED TOO!!!!, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I am outraged too!!! The site doesn't give the amount that I pay in healthcare each month. So while it looks that I'm making $70,000, it doesn't show that I pay $1,500 a month (or $18,000 a year) in health care costs. If you subtract my health care costs, I'm making $52,000. Yet a teacher in the Oakland School District with my experience, earns $62,000 a year and has health care included.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!! 85% of my students last year were proficient or advanced on their STAR scores and yet I make less than an Oakland teacher who, I'm guessing, does not have my success record.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I'm not sure what you're outraged about. Salaries of over $100,000 are not uncommon for people with B.A.'s and/or advanced degrees with many years of experience in a number of careers. Yeah, it would be wonderful if we could find quality people who are willing to work for the Pleasanton government at salaries much less than the going market rate. I don't see that happening, though. If you think you can find such people, then go ahead and recruit them. Good luck!
Posted by Ummm, compare, a resident of the Hacienda Gardens neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Please, when you are looking at salaries, take into account the bottom of the barrel as well (and don't go off off the top salaries only). Also, compare them to other districts and please remember that our district had the 12th highest scores in the state, out of over 1,000 school districts.
Posted by Little merit, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 1:06 pm
I'd say overall PSUD salaries are a bit high, but realistic. I am surprised to find HomeEc, Math, 3rd grade, Science, SpecEd, Counselor all in the same $100k - 112 range...plus paying $15k for retirement. I'd be curious to know if majority of degrees are in EDUC and ... How many are subject degrees like MATH and science, with teacher certificates after subject degrees. I do not place any value on education degrees, which is why I think the US employers have to hire math and science employees from the rest of the world. I prefer math and science teachers actually having studied in the subjects they teach. I see there is a math teacher earning less than other subjects.
Just sad to see pay has little to do with merit. I believe we would have better, more energetic and engaged teachers if pay was based on merit....just like for kids. Recognition matters. Treating students as equal robots doesn't work either.
Posted by Outraged, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 1:10 pm
No wonder PUSD is broke. If my company paid 469 of its employees over $90,000 a year, we'd be broke to.
A lead maintenance worker makes $116,000? That is insane.
My kids have had teachers that are husband and wife and their combined household income, I have just found out, is $221,000. OMG! And one of them has to pay health insurance. Out of $221,000, they can afford it.
Thank you Bay Area News Group. I will be mailing in my No ballot on E this afternoon.
p.s. How do you download this data into Excel so I can send it to everyone I know?
Posted by b, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 1:12 pm
LOL at the "outrage" here. These salaries and benefits are substantially less than these people would earn for equivalent professional responsibility in Silicon Valley. Bless them for having to tolerate having their incomes posted on the Internet for you to gossip about.
Posted by Outraged, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 1:14 pm
The data does not show what the employees are paying in for retirement, the column shows the additional money the EMPLOYER (PUSD) itself has to pay into retirement. For CALSTRS that is 8.25% of what the employee is paid. For CALPERS, it is over 9%.
Also, interesting that the very highest paid employee of the District, Luz Cazares, only has 9 years of work experience (graduated in 2002).
A bit high? That is like saying the San Ramon city manager is being paid a tad over what he should be.
Posted by Little merit, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 1:22 pm
I would not want the salaries increased. Remember, in addition to all the state holidays like in business (plus more, and sick, and BD) plus two months off....to take other jobs, camps, coaching, tutoring...and the ever popular, traveling which most people don't have the time (or security) to enjoy.
Posted by b, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Once again, Outraged, don't gossip or complain about something you don't know about.
The contract has nothing to do with the job or what real teachers do in order to perform their jobs. I assure you, it is not possible to be a remotely effective and successful teacher working just the days/hours in the contract.
Posted by teachers work hard, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Teachers who make more than the highest step are teaching more than a full-time set of courses.... working through their prep period because there's no one else qualified to teach a particular course, or doing summer school teaching on top of their regular job. Imagine grading more than 150 essays per week, or assessing 150 science lab reports.
I hate that there is so little respect for teachers as professionals.
And Luz Cazares earned her Masters degree from HARVARD in 2002. I am greatly concerned that with the continued disrespect for her expertise displayed on this forum, we will see her move on to another district where her professional contributions will not be met with such disdain.
Posted by GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 3:23 pm
"No more raises",
All those salaries of teachers you posted are one who aren't qualified to get raises. They cannot get any more raises because they have long since hit the top of the scale. Why don't you figure out what you are talking about before you post idiotic stuff. Is that what the no on Measure E people do? Lie about and distort every issue? It is disgusting.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Why the outrage? I agree with Sam...those salaries are not out of line given the education and experience those teachers/administrators have! No one would bat an eye if some kid fresh out of college working at facebook was making that much! My spouse earns over 150k and never went to college...but chose the right field (technology).
I was the opposite of "outraged", I was so pleased to see salaries comparable to other industries. Yes, some of those teachers might not be worth the salary, while others earning less are better. You find that in ANY field, organization, business, etc.
Your child is your most precious "possession" and yet you want those who can exert major influence on their lives to earn crap? Now THAT is outrageous!
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 6:05 pm
"..those salaries are not out of line given the education and experience"
Some are. Some moms work part-time either for the city or school district, and their salaries are too much for the time they put in (I am not talking teachers)
Yet some very good teachers are not making enough, these are great teachers who deserve more pay, and because of union nonsense, some may even get a pink slip.
Yes, we need to reform the union and pay more to competent teachers, fire the bad ones, and stop hiring every mom that wants walking around money - gets on the payroll and is milking the system.
And what's up with council members getting medical and dental? I saw one whose compensation was only 11K per year, yet the Medical/dental/vision was about 23K. This is not supposed to be a full time job, these folks are supposed to be employed elsewhere, getting their medical from their job, not the taxpayers!
Posted by Outraged, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 6:08 pm
We have been lied to. Teachers should not be paid over $96,000 according to the union schedule and the PUSD PR department that gave information to Mr. Glenn Wohltmann from the Pleasanton Weekly in the article that came out on Friday. But many are paid TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars over that. PUSD lied to the newspaper reporter. [P.S. You've got to be a fool to lie to a newspaper reporter, PUSD.]
But here they are, feeding one set of "PR Info" to the Pleasanton Weekly and another set of actual data to the Bay Area News Group. What fools.
Custodians at PUSD are making $80,000 a year, which is more than the salaries of many people with Masters Degrees and Ph.D Degrees!!!
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Jill, most teachers I know don't truly work only 180 days/year. Isn't that the number of days/year the students attend? Teachers spend tons of their own time preparing lessons, taking classes, etc. They don't just work a 6 hour day either. I'm sure some "dial it in" and work as little as possible...just like in ANY field or company.
Personally, I think physical education & home economics is important. Hell, kids learn more "real life" skills in those classes than in, say, trigonometry. I haven't used trig once in 30 years. However, I use "home economics" skills daily. Especially given the stats on childhood obesity, I think PE is more important now than ever. Finally, those teachers likely have the same amount of education as their colleagues in other subject areas. You think pay should be based on subject taught? And who will decide which subjects are the most important? If that catering teacher at Village is able to reach out and inspire a teenager who can't learn or doesn't want to learn in a traditional setting, s/he is worth 6 figures in my book!
I wish everyone would quit venting their anger on teachers who did not cause our state's budget issues. If the district lied, shame on them! If you are envious of a teacher's "9 month" schedule, go back to school for 2-6 years (depending on if you have a degree already) and study to be one! If you don't think you earn enough in your current job...boohoo..it's not the teacher's fault. They made their choice of profession and specific job just like you did. The difference is that YOUR salary is not under microscope for everyone to judge!
Posted by jill, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 9:46 pm
"Anonymous", How much prep time, grading, and curriculum development do PE teachers do? Not saying the job is not important but I do not think they have the level of preparation as other teachers (e.g., elementary school teachers, Language Arts, etc.) do.
Posted by teacher, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Apr 23, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I think it is interesting that I work part time and my salary on this website reflects a full time employee. I have never been paid what this site says I apparently receive....Wondering how accurate these statistics are??? Gosh...I can imagine someone who sees this number might be upset about making that much only teaching part time. Curious where they got these ####'s.
Posted by Outraged, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2011 at 12:08 am
The spreadsheet was prepared by PUSD. Didn't you get the information that was sent to PUSD employees a few weeks back that they were going to release this to the newspaper? The column showing Gross pay for 2010 the year is in the 6th column.
Posted by curious, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2011 at 8:56 am
Actually, I think somethng must be wrong with this info or that the numbers can be clarified in some way. I'm sure that the district will let us know. The info we've been given (and I know healthcare comes out as agreed by the union) is that the top salary is about 96k. I imagine the numbers over that must be summer school or something. I am curious about what misc is?
Posted by The Truth Hurts, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2011 at 10:36 am
To "Don't believe it", yes the truth hurts. This is data that the district gave to the Bay Area New Group. They did not make this data up.
The union previously negotiated to have a higher salary instead of health care coverage because most teachers have a spouse with health care coverage. With a higher salary you also get a higher pension. You can also retire from the district and receive up to 7 years of free health insurance coverage. That is another one of the unfunded benefits.
According to the district, those who take the district health insurance, a large majority purchase the employee-only coverage which costs $7,104 per year.
So I am glad to admit that you would be rich is this is what you made. I cannot imagine that if you have to pay the $7,104 health insurance premium that you are no longer rich.
To "curious", I believe the reason there are many over the top salary is the district allows people to supplement their incomes in many ways. They can work at summer school (and still have more vacation time than the average worker), be a department head, coach a sport after school, be a department head, etc.
However I am surprised in the number of teachers over the top of the salary schedule since they have been taking unpaid furlough days during this period. So that means that their salaries are actually higher than what the online version states.
Posted by Little merit, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2011 at 3:59 pm
To Anonymous: All subjects are important for life skills, but don't tell me the college knowledge requirements are the same for math & science.....otherwise employers wouldn't be screaming for applicants with math & science skills. It all goes back to EDUC majors, rather than MATH & SCIENCE MAJORS who get certified AFTER they KNOW the tough subject stuff ! Because of skill requirements, some teachers are WORTH more than others. So Anon, think critically, ALL subjects are important, but some require TEACHERS with greater college SUBJECT knowledge than others..deserving merit pay..and not the unions good or bad, we-are-all-equal....pay scale.
Most of the continuing ed updating classes are in the latest crowd control & ESL trends, etc !..not about becoming an exciting, motivating, knowledgeable, and competent science teacher ! For me and my family of educators, we prefer our kids have teachers with SUBJECT degrees, plus certificates, not education degrees.
Posted by Teacher too, a resident of the Vineyard Hills neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 am
Teachers pay 8.25 percent of income towards STRS (retirement) and also another amount towards Medicare. Because we don't qualify for state disability, we pay for that separately as well. Teachers do not receive any social security benefits. We pay for our health coverage. Even if we are on our spouses' health care plan doesn't mean it's free. My husband and I pay out of pocket to cover beyond the employee and have $40.00 copays. We do not have free medical after retirement. We can buy health care at the district rate which is very high. Salaries which appear higher than the salary schedule could include: summer school, presenting staff development (district presenters are considerably cheaper than hiring presenters from outside the district), department heads, coaching, and PAR (teachers who mentor and train others).
I have taught in the teacher education department at St. Mary's and Cal State, East Bay and pay and step and column do matter to these teacher candidates. The want to stay in the bay area and live close to their school. They wanted to come to Pleasanton because of working conditions, positive relationship between management and staff, pay, staff development, and the supportive community. The negativity created by this blog may be changing all of that. I see San Ramon/Danville as the place to go to feel supported even if the pay is a bit lower. Those of you who think these salaries are out of line haven't viewed Fremont's pay schedule where a master's
degree earns a teacher an additional 3 percent on the salary schedule. Teaching is not a part time job. During the school year many teachers work 10 -12 hours a day because the grading and planning done after the children leave. Also teachers do not receive any paid vacation, we are for the 182 days we are actually at work, so any additional time before and after the school year is not paid time. That's also why furlough day is a big loss total pay/contracted days. I wish those of you that log would at least get your facts straight and consider how you are hurting the reputation of our community as a supportive environment for teachers.
Posted by huh?, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2011 at 10:38 am
"Also teachers do not receive any paid vacation"
You just said that teachers work for 182 days a year. That means they get 15.6 weeks off per year. You do not call that a paid vacation? And if you choose, you can work at summer school for a few weeks to supplement your income. Or you can help coach a sport or after school activity for additional pay because your workday officially ends when school gets out. I don't know of any other job where the boss will let you leave work at 3pm to take on another job.
From your argument it seems that you do not like the pension system you are in. The public does not like it either. So it seems to be a win-win situation if we get rid of the pension system and move the teachers to social security and 401(k) plans, like most of the taxpayers. I also do not feel too sorry for you having to pay $40 copays. I have an expensive health insurance plan and have a $2,000 deductible each year. You are also complaining about $40 copays while asking the public to pay $98 for an additional salary tax. Come on now.
Your statements give me good reason to Vote No on E. We need to fix this system and throwing more money at it is not going to fix it.
Posted by Really?, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2011 at 11:00 am
Huh? Here a teacher attempts to explain the truth that many here distort and lie about and all you can do is call it complaining. This teacher is not complaining, simply explaining the fallacies for those who want to know the truth. I guess you should say the same for yourself and your "complaints" about your health insurance?! Brushing it off as a complaint is a quick way to avoid this truth and further your political agenda and propaganda. You are so entrapped in this rhetoric, you can't even hear what she is saying!
Pleasanton residents deserve to hear the truth rather than be bullied by people who want to save the hills, and their $98, at any cost to the greater community.
The most important point Teacher too made was the hiring factor- Pleasanton USED to be the most desirable district to get a job, that is no longer true- having just had a student teacher, who was able to relay the negative attitudes towards the schools coming from these blogs, was not even looking to apply here in the future. San Ramon, Dublin, Livermore are definitely winning out on that factor- the best and brightest wont be coming here.
Next will be the families- why should they when they can get class size reduction right across the freeway? Plus belong to a community that actual values and trusts their teachers. The priorities here have taken a nasty swing- the response to this posting has taken it to an all time low.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2011 at 11:54 am
"huh?" Teacher Too was not complaining or asking for your pity. Where does she state that she doesn't like the pension system? She was stating facts and YOU were placing subjective meanings on those *statements*. You are projecting, because you are the one complaining.
They do not have a paid vacation of "15.6 weeks off per year". Their salary is negotiated based on the 182 days per year. For example, a teacher who has been with the district for a while and who has taken classes on her/his own time may have gotten to the 80k/year mark. Taking out what s/he pays towards STRS, Medicare, State Disability and 100% of their health coverage brings that amount down. Since I don't have stats on the amounts, it's hard to estimate. It doesn't seem out of line that those costs could amount to 15k/year. So then the true salary is 65k. 65/182 days/8 hours per day = $44.64/hour. That amount for a 12 month position would be: $92851/year. Personally, I don't consider that salary AT ALL out of line for a person who is highly educated (minimum of a BA + 2 years post graduate work for credential + extra classes that raised her salary in the district) and who has been working in their field for quite a few years. And, many teachers earn way less than 80k. I don't get the problem! If you are upset about your own pay, benefits, amount of time off....change jobs or careers. If you want to be a teacher, be prepared to work harder than you ever have and for ultimately less pay (due to all the extra days beyond 182 you will work and beyond the 8 hours in a day you will work). And you know what...if that teacher does leave at 3:00 for another district job, they are likely working at home or on the weekend to make it up. If teaching is so lucrative, how come it is a female dominated profession, particularly at the younger (elementary) level? I think we all know why!
Posted by reality check, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Apr 25, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Despite numerous attempts by several people to clarify the issue of days/hours worked by teachers, there still seem to be so many people out there who think that teachers only work on school days and only during school hours. Here's an idea, teachers: do just that. Start working from 7:30AM -4:00PM, on scheduled school days --nothing more. Think of it as "sending a message" to the community just as many of the No on E Folks plan to send a message with their vote.
Posted by Little merit, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Doesn't the teacher union think the school day is full enough ?? I didn't hear about any teachers or their union fight to stop the meddling legislature from adding to the already full curriculum. Do you plan to cut something from your full day, in order to accommodate the new homosexual program. Will there need to be an additional Dept head $$ ? How much time and energy did you use to fight this extra load ? ? hmmm so you have plenty of spare time in the school day. right? So do you cut math 20 minutes early? Seems like you would have protested Sacto politicians adding to your full day.
Posted by Have You Been..., a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 27, 2011 at 11:19 am
I posted this a few days ago....but feel it needs repeating.
They deserve every penny.....
Does anyone of you truly know what it takes to be a teacher? That is an honest question.
I imagine very few of those that are voting No on E have been inside a classroom in decades. Some may have, but I believe the majority have not seen the inside of a classroom - IN SESSION - in a long, long time.
Things are quite different than in 'the day':
• 34 children in a classroom with 1 teacher.
• Language barriers that are more common than ever before
• Children that are depressed more than ever
• Children committing suicide as they see it as the only way ‘out’
• Children on ‘medication’ more than ever
• Children from homes with severe physical abuse
• Children from homes with severe mental abuse
• Children with weapons on campus
These are not issues only found in the ‘inner cities’. They are issues faced each day by teachers IN PLEASANTON and all the surrounding communities. And, this is not a list of “either/or”. All of these items happen in single classrooms….and for 1 teacher.
Place yourself in the classroom, dedicating your heart and soul to these children. Being a teacher, a nurse, a psychologist, a family counselor, sending e mails and taking phone calls from parents until late each evening.
These are not the out-of-the-ordinary situations. These are the NORM.
We send kids off to school and expect the world out of the staff….yet, when this district needs the stable funding that would come from Measure E, you degrade teachers. The state is not going to bail anyone out. Less money from the state places all districts in jeopardy.
If for no other reason, please vote to provide stable funding for 4 years to this district. The teachers do a remarkable job. They have made concessions. And, yes, many of us have also had to make concessions in our jobs. But, to not see the direct impact of less money going to the district, and what it takes to teach in this day and age rising greatly, then uou are definitely someone that has not stepped in a classroom in decades.
If you think I am kidding…..go and sit in a classroom. Go ahead.
Yes on E.....and Thank You to those that have CHOSEN to Teach.
P.S. No, I am not a teacher, and not an employee of any school district.
Posted by Arnold, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 27, 2011 at 5:12 pm
"Voting no on E will do absolutely nothing about the pension system. Those changes, by law, can only happen at the state level. Measure E helps protect funding for Pleasanton schools."
Measure E allows the district to increase compensation which absolutely increases the unfunded pension liability. Again, this is a math problem. Increasing compensation only makes the math problem more difficult. The LAO has stated that the pension costs will increase by 15.1% if addressed immediately. Any delay only increases the cost to the taxpayers, and further erodes the PUSD budget (the money come from the same pot).
John, your logic, or lack there of, is why I see tough times ahead for the school district. Adding a new layer of short term revenue that supports long-term costs is simply irresponsible. What happens when the employee payroll is increased by six million in year four of the parcel tax, and the parcel tax expires at the end of that year? What does year 5 look like? Does it look like a six million dollar cost without the revenue to support it?
The bigger issue is the pension problem. Where is the money coming from to cover the additional 9-12 million in pension costs (probably understated)? The answer is from the same 30% of the state budget that funds K-12. PUSD won't be able to cover those costs so they will ask the taxpayers to extend the parcel tax, and increase the amount (it is only an extra 150 dollars per year - and it is for the kids).
"Measure E helps protect funding for Pleasanton schools"
Measure E only funds teachers raises. Your plan reminds of the thinking (?) that has led many cities finances to the edge. One of the common themes cited by elected officials for their cities financial demise was the perceived need to offer the 3@50 pension benefit because "everybody else" was doing it. Now everybody recognizes this as a huge mistake that is leading to a reduction in city services across the board. They're now claiming that the "follow the leader" approach of increasing costs beyond revenue was flawed, and the pension system is unsustainable. Meanwhile, the public employee unions claim that it's just a bump in the road - nothing to worry about. That's really all you are doing.
That's my interpretation of your short-sighted comments.
Teacher pension costs a looming crisis
“…exploding pension costs threaten to eat up the operating funds of school districts. Under state law, all districts have the same funding formula: Each teacher gives 8 percent of salary to CalSTRS, the school district adds 8.25 percent and the state provides about 4 percent. To fully cover unfunded pension liabilities, however, the amount set aside would need to go from that present 20.25 percent of teacher pay to nearly 36 percent.
This shows the need for drastic change. Even a humming economy isn’t going to generate enough revenue to cover these pending costs and a round of big tax hikes seems highly unlikely.
Posted by John, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 27, 2011 at 9:37 pm
You're just plain wrong.
"Measure E allows the district to increase compensation which absolutely increases the unfunded pension liability."
It does no such thing. There will be step and column raises with or without Measure E. The pension liability will be there in either case. Measure E does nothing at all to increase pension liability. Not the slightest thing. Do you get that?
"What happens when the employee payroll is increased by six million in year four of the parcel tax, and the parcel tax expires at the end of that year? "
That happens with or without the parcel tax. Do you understand that? What is so difficult?
"Your plan reminds of the"
My plan? What plan? I never said anything about a plan. I said I supported Measure E.
You can go on and on about pensions, and I'll be happy to agree that we do need reform of CalSTRS. That has to happen at the state level and has absolutely nothing to do with Measure E. Can you please try to understand that? Defeating Measure E will not change the pension liabilities for PUSD teachers one iota. The step and column pay raises will happen regardless of the outcome of Measure E.
Posted by Arnold, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 27, 2011 at 9:57 pm
"It does no such thing. There will be step and column raises with or without Measure E. The pension liability will be there in either case. Measure E does nothing at all to increase pension liability. Not the slightest thing. Do you get that?"
I do, you have know idea what you're talking about.
"My plan? What plan? I never said anything about a plan. I said I supported Measure E."
I couldn't have said it any better.
" You can go on and on about pensions, and I'll be happy to agree that we do need reform of CalSTRS. That has to happen at the state level and has absolutely nothing to do with Measure E. Can you please try to understand that? Defeating Measure E will not change the pension liabilities for PUSD teachers one iota. The step and column pay raises will happen regardless of the outcome of Measure E."
I hope people don't view your opinion as a source of wisdom.
Posted by John, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 27, 2011 at 10:11 pm
You still don't get it. The raises will happen with or without Measure E. Are you denying that? Are you saying the step and column raises won't happen if Measure E fails?
"I hope people don't view your opinion as a source of wisdom."
It is not an opinion. There is no increase in pension liability under Measure E. It is a simple fact. Measure E does not "enable" raises. The raises happen either way. Can you understand that? Are you disputing that?
Posted by Member, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Feb 6, 2013 at 9:22 pm
There are a lot of people on this list that may be overpaid but putting one of the Village teachers on blast is unacceptable. Keep in mind two very importact facts about the Village High School teachers and staff:
1. These teachers deal all day and every day with students that Pleasanton's other high schools have rejected. They are the people that work to fix all of the dirty little secrets that this town likes to sweep under the rug so we don't tarnish our "Pleasantville" image. Kids with drug issues, gang issues, emotional disturbed students, and kids with a whole host of other problems that none of the other schools could handle; yet these Village teachers somehow manage to get them in the classroom and learning.
2. Village High School has some of longest serving teachers in the entire school district. Its no wonder why they are making 100,000 a year plus when they have put in 25 or more consecutive years with this district.