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"The Real Bully in the Classroom" by John Stossel

Original post made by Paula, Amberwood/Wood Meadows, on Apr 2, 2011

For those of you who want to spend yet more of your hard earned income into public schools, I encourage you to watch this short clip by John Stossel...

>>> Web Link

In the above clip, he also references a recent documentary about the terribly negative effect of teachers unions upon the quality of education...and it focuses on New Jersey's public schools.

This documentary is called "The Cartel" >>> Web Link

Still feel the same about throwing yet more money to public schools?
I know Measure E proponents claim these funds will not be allocated to salaries/pensions, etc...but I do not believe this for one second.

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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 2, 2011 at 11:31 pm

Aaah, so now we get to the real thinking behind opponents to Measure E. It's not that you want more accountability for how funds are spent. It's not that you want to ensure that the funds are not spent on teacher raises. Those were just red herrings. No, your real thinking is that you're just against public schools, period. Thanks for making that clear to all of us.


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Posted by objection to paula
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2011 at 12:16 am

this clip is offered in incredibly poor judgment and taste. it begins by showing the picture of a teenage school girl who was bullied into committing suicide, and then uses the tragic picture to say the "real bullies" are the "educational establishment." the next picture then shows a child apparently pinned helplessly on the pinions of a coatrack, and goes on to suggest that the "educational establishment" pinioned him there. this is a perfect example of the sickness that runs through our society. there are ways to argue in opposition to a position. this clip fails miserably and reflects a sick mind. i strongly condemn the clip and its poster as morally objectionable. i have notified PW and trust they will take this ugliness off the page.


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Posted by Jane
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 3, 2011 at 12:32 am

I agree that the clip and whoever posted it both manifest 'incredibly poor judgment and taste'. But I agree with the classical liberal philosopher, John Stuart Mill, who argued, correctly in my view, that censorship of such rubbish only drives the immoral ones further down into their sewer holes. Instead, he argued, we should be open to even the most morally offensive as an opportunity to teach our young about the extent of evil in the world. I for one urge the editors to preserve the clip, even though it no doubt will be found offensive to PW readers' moral sensibilities.


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Posted by Voting no
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2011 at 9:08 am

And I guess you should be a member of the moral police or sit on the moral approval board.

It is people like you who really scare me.


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Posted by comment
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2011 at 9:36 am

"Voting no",

Who exactly are you addressing your post to? By the way, I'm voting yes and so are all my neighbors and I don't even have any children.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 3, 2011 at 10:36 am

Pleasanton was named to the Top 100 list of CNN/Money's "Best Places to Live" in this country. Google the words "Pleasanton CNN" yourself to find the news stories. Think that the quality of our schools might have had something to do with getting that honor?

One of the first things that a homebuyer asks himself or herself when considering a city is "What are it's schools like?" The wrong answer to that one question alone will cause a prospective homebuyer to dismiss a city from further consideration. Our vote on Measure E will define who we are as a city and community both now and for the future.


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Posted by Observer
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 3, 2011 at 10:53 am

The downfall of the American educational system is indeed the classroom teacher. Let's place the blame squarely on the teacher's shoulders, and the teacher's union.

With the type and degree of attacks that I read on this public forum, there is not doubt why unions are necessary for teachers.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 3, 2011 at 11:21 am

"Observer", I think that your head is so clouded with partisan rhetoric about "teacher's unions", "poor public education", and other evils that you overlooked one simple fact: Pleasanton public schools are excellent.


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Apr 3, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Janna is a registered user.

John Stossel is nothing but a shill with a libertarian agenda.

Public school is not important to many (not all) people who can afford and send their children to private school. It's more of the "I got mine" attitude that is the problem with society today.


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Posted by Hmmmmmmm
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 3, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Looks like the truth struck a nerve and a lot of you folks are trying to justify to yourselves why you should vote for more money to go to teachers salaries when we already pay state income tax, property tax, and 2 different school bonds. Enough is enough.


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Posted by Observer
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 3, 2011 at 8:06 pm

@Sam

Sorry for the confusion, I was being sarcastic. If you read my second line, I state that with all the negative and vile comments against teachers on this forum, it is no wonder teachers feel the need to be protected by a union.


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Posted by Candace
a resident of Del Prado
on Apr 4, 2011 at 12:50 am

When I first looked at the video I thought it was plane stupid. But I then read the readers. I agree with the person who was angry about to paula's video. Its beyond stupid. Its bad taste. I also agree with Jane. Its our free speech and our First Amendment. We have to allow people to act like dumbells if they want to .


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Posted by corny
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Apr 5, 2011 at 10:41 am

candace, did you go to school in Pleasanton?


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Posted by Cornelius 'corny' Walker
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Apr 5, 2011 at 11:26 pm

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