Posted by Livermore resident, a resident of Livermore, on Nov 20, 2009 at 8:20 am

Please.......we need 'four' BART Stations in Livermore: 1) Airway Boulevard, 2) First Street, 3) Vasco Road, and 4) Greenville. These Stations would accommodate businesses/commuters in these four areas. Bus shuttles can bring people in outlying neighborhoods on both sides of I-580 to the Stations. Parking garages are also necessary at all four Stations to allow commuters coming from Tracy, Stockton, Modesto, etc. to use BART instead of driving to their destinations, thus alleviating the traffic on I-580.

Posted by Jim Saha, a resident of Dublin, on Nov 20, 2009 at 8:46 am

More important than multiple Livermore stations, I think it is better to consider one Livermore station and use any additional funds to extend bart over the Altamont to Mountain House & Tacy in order to reduce congestion on 580. I think this maximizes the benefits of BART for those of us who live here in the Tri Valley and who hope to have 580 traffic reduced someday.

Posted by Qwerty, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Nov 20, 2009 at 12:37 pm

I agree with Jim S. that it is a far better idea to have ONE station at Livermore and additional stations in mountain house and tracy. The traffic jams on 580 are absolutely horrid so we need a better way to help bring things people in - not crowd 4 stations in livermore.

Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Nov 20, 2009 at 12:48 pm
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It seems like many of the proposed routes all benefit Livermore to the detriment of the rest of the Tri-Valley.

Posted by jj, a resident of Livermore, on Nov 20, 2009 at 2:42 pm

BART would do much more good on the other side of the Altamont since ALL of the traffic that is jamming 580 in Livermore and Dublin is coming from the Central Valley, not from Livermore. Why should our community be turned upside down to accommodate out of town commuters anyway?

But even better than building BART, which stinks, is not a good value to the taxpayer, and is an eyesore and a public nuisance, would be tax credits to incent businesses to relocate some operations in the Central Valley, or to provide telecommuting alternatives for their employees. Maybe a tax credit based on the average distance from the office to the geographic center of their employee's residence (you weight the dispersion and determine the geographic center that way). Neither of these things costs taxpayers a dime for something they don't use, takes people off the road (a far better alternative than the current "planes trains and automobiles" approach to transit), and reduces the human footprint. All good stuff and practically free, because its just a reallocation of resources and doesn't require any new infrastructure.

Building new infrastructure to move people around is STUPID especially for a regional economy so heavily biased in the "information technology" space. Its embarrassing that we are struggling with old school problems and solutions when most of it could be avoided with proper planning and exploiting existing technologies that enable collaboration and virtual work.

Posted by Dave, a resident of Livermore, on Nov 20, 2009 at 6:58 pm

Jim S. Qwerty

I have to disagree, in that BART has the most expensive construction costs of any rail in at least California. To consider extending Bart from Livermore to even Mountain House is Insane with a capital "I". Let alone a few more miles to Tracy and beyound is out of the question. We are stretching the limits even having our extension to Livermore actually being considered for actual construction, even though it's well deserved i.e traffic on 580 and the Bart tax in Livermore.

We are better off building standard gauge, proven and reliable, off the shelf electric train tech (and might I add Cheaper than BART), for the ACE train upgrade being proposed at this time in conjunction with Bart. That makes more sense to bring people from the Central Valley on the proposed Electrified, Altamont Corridor Express with Bullet train sharing of tracks for the statewide system, into Livermore and dropping commuters off at a transfer station at let's say Vasco/Brisa Bart Station where you can cross the platform and get on Bart or get on the Wheels bus system to your destination with direct bus service to LLNL Lab. You can then take Bart to Downtown Livermore and beyound to Oakland & San Francisco.

Let's put our long term thinking hats on people. What seems like an Ok idea today (Bart along the 580 to Greenfield) doesn't make sense in the long run. It's just a patch up of our current problems with other problems coming up down the timeline. Let's get it right the first time and not propose build a Bart Extension to 580 freeway to accomodate solely the people on the other side of the hill coming over. We need Bart To Livermore not Bart to the Freeway median.

Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Nov 20, 2009 at 11:39 pm
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Build BART to Livermore, but don't route it on a noisy elevated track past an already noise sensitive neighborhood. I don't think there will be any way to properly mitigate that.

Posted by Martin Isenburg, a resident of Livermore, on Dec 3, 2009 at 1:39 pm

The city of Livermore is holding three workshops to gather public input on the possible alignments and station combination for the BART extension. The first one was well attended and it seemed as if the audience’s opinion more or less converged on having two stations: One in downtown Livermore to serve the residents, to vitalize local businesses, and to spark sustainable transit-oriented development but with strict parking regulations to keep car commuter traffic out of downtown. The other one as far east as possible with ample amounts of parking to serve commuters from Mountain House, Tracy and beyond and ease congestion on I-580.

A pure I-580 alignment is something that i – and all urban planners and city officials i talked to – strongly dislike because it would mean to repeat the mistakes of (auto-centric) planning in the past. a BART station in downtown Livermore presents a unique opportunity to create a wonderful walkable community around downtown setting a textbook example for sustainable transit oriented planning in America. i already love what city has done during the redevelopment efforts of the past few years that have converted downtown from a four-lane freeway to a welcoming and cute destination. but it is still a downtown on life-support. there is no sustainable traffic throughout the day to support the kind of business you expect to find in a healthy downtown: produce stalls, a delicatessen, a small grocery store, a bakery, a cheese store, or a butcher. well done a downtown BART station could turn Livermore into a poster child for sustainable urban growth that promotes local business, healthy lifestyle, and walkable communities.

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Posted by ElCabron, a resident of Livermore, on Apr 9, 2010 at 9:05 pm

Bart should pass through Airway, Downtown, Vasco, And Greenville and I dont see why BART couldn't keep expanding past livermore. People act like just because Livermore would get multiple stations that we can't continue it onto the central valley. People need to stop complaining that it will be an "eye sore" or make "too much noise" because face it, Livermore is a growing city and in 15 years its going to be just like San Leandro. Why worry about petty things like that instead of realizing the potential money it can bring into this city and how much more conveniant things could be for the people of Livermore. As far as crime goes, the LPD is worthless anyways as it is. They can't do anything except cruise around residential areas at 10 at night looking for a brown person to harrass. We're paying taxes for a reason, if crime wants to follow with BART then it looks like the LPD will actually have to start doing their job. The quicker it gets here the better, especially if its a multiple stop route.

Posted by Mike, a resident of Livermore, on Apr 24, 2010 at 9:40 pm

Bart to Livermore should only have station(s) near the freeway and eventually extend to Tracy. It requires too much parking and introduces too much traffic to put it any other place. It does not belong downtown! That would only bring noise to existing neighborhoods along its route and introduce crime not to mention waste millions of tax dollars.