Posted by M, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Tom-- where is this coming from? Do you have a child who has an addiction to Oxycodone? I'm not questioning the validity of your concern, but am wondering where this comes from. It seems to hit close to home for you. Maybe someone came to you with a "friend who has a problem" issue? I know there is still an unspoken issue of marijuana, alcohol abuse, cocaine. Where does Oxycodone come in? Maybe as the next "logical" step in the monumental task of educating our children on the detrimental effects of drug abuse?
Posted by Throw in the hat!, a resident of the Bridle Creek neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 12:14 am
Wow, is Cholo turning into a model citizen? Your last several posts seem to offer actual web links and reasearch on subjects.. I predict Cholo runs for Mayor.. C''mon, throw in the sombrero and run! I'd kick my vote in!
Posted by David, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Sep 3, 2009 at 7:24 am
Very interesting question Tom. I haven't heard much about Oxy in Pleasanton. I do know there was an issue at Foothill high school on the first day of school that involved roughly 15-20 kids coming to school still drunk for the night before. Not only did they drive to school drunk, but they had the party at one of the kids parents house! I don't know if the parents supplied the booze, but I'm pretty sure the Pleasanton Weekly was well aware of the issue and failed to report it.
Pleasanton needs to wake up and realize there are some serious substance abuse problems amongst teens in our community. But it's Pleasanton so we'll just sweep it under the rug and go on about our business.
Posted by Lucky guy, a resident of the Bordeaux Estates neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 8:41 am
Big money for a single Oxy pill. Pleasanton is in a bubble. Oxy and prescription drugs are the new rage amongst teens and sadly younger. The PD wants to get the "Big Guy" and hasn't the time or manpower to chase the kids. Ask school principals or teachers about what goes on as many know. Parents are working to keep up. Their kids are scheduled to death and cannot be a kid. TV is the babysitter. Pleasanton kids have money and their parents are on all kinds of prescription drugs. Many steal their parents drugs. I know, mine did. Cindy McGovern and the Council talk a good game but no teen center because the priority is on a Firehouse Arts Center (10 million kicked by City), a golf cousre or some other adult facility. Turn Domus into a Teen Center where kids can hang out. I am sure Rotary, the Lions and the Masons could partner. Yeah, drugs will still be around but they can have a place to go instead of parking lots and parks where they get in trouble. My two cents.
Posted by Yes, it's a problem, a member of the Amador Valley High School community, on Sep 3, 2009 at 10:29 am
Lucky guy, you are correct in stating that drugs are a problem in P-town. Parents are deluded to a certain extent and the idiotic belief that the DARE program will help fend off drug use makes it even worse. (DARE has NEVER been shown to be effective at preventing teens from trying drugs)
One reason there has been no teen center so far in Pleasanton is that a survey by the Youth Commission a few years ago found that drug dealers frequent them too; and once a drug culture is established it is very hard to eradicate.
In addition to finding a program more helpful than DARE, more effort should be given to educating parents about the symptoms of drug abuse as well as how to make their homes "safer" (securing or disposing of unused pain killers and locking the liquor cabinet)for their teens.
I took the trouble to educate myself a few years ago-learned a lot-and was able to intervene with my daughter's marijuana use (medical grade sold to her by another student at her high school) before she left for college.
Posted by Grace, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 10:59 am
David is right:
"Pleasanton needs to wake up and realize there are some serious substance abuse problems amongst teens in our community. But it's Pleasanton so we'll just sweep it under the rug and go on about our business. "
Do you remember reading on the forum here a couple of months ago about the teen who crashed/smashed another car very badly one evening and left the scene of the crash and had to be tailed by a resident of the neighborhood? That she was so drunk she apparently didn't quite realize what she had done? Did that EVER show up in the PW as an article? No. Did it ever show up in the Police highlights section? No. Did it even ever show up in the Police blotter, listing all of the incidents over the past two weeks? NO, even though the police were called and presumably some action was taken due to the level of intoxication and the hit-and-run nature of the accident.
Overlooking these incidents does NO service to our teens or the parents in town.
Posted by David, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Sep 3, 2009 at 11:05 am
I find the excuse of drug dealers frequenting a youth center in Pleasanton one of the most laughable things I've heard in a while. I'm not saying it can't happen, but that is a horrible excuse by the City of Pleasanton. Oakland has a model youth center called "Youth Uprising" right in the middle of the hood, and they are able to keep that kind of activity out. The real problem is the City Council and the Mayor will not publicly admit this problem exist.
I agree with you YES, DARE does not work. From what I understand DARE is basically used to fund a couple of Police officers rather than programs that actually work. Having police involvement is not a bad thing, but in my opinion they are not the organization that should be educating the community about substance abuse.
Posted by Rick, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Warning signs of a potential drug problem include:
If you notice unexplained changes in physical appearance or behavior, it may be a sign of substance use or it could be a sign of another problem. You will not know definitively until a professional does a screening.
Change in sleeping patterns
Slurred or agitated speech
Sudden or dramatic weight loss or gain
Neglected appearance/poor hygiene
Sick more frequently
Accidents or injuries
Hiding use; lying and covering up
Sense that the person will "do anything" to use again regardless of consequences
Loss of control or choice of use (drug-seeking behavior)
Loss of interest in previously enjoyed activities
Hyperactive or hyper-aggressive
Missing school or work
Failure to fulfill responsibilities at school or work
Complaints from teachers or co-workers
Reports of intoxication at school or work
Furtive or secretive behavior
Avoiding eye contact
Going out every night
Change in friends or peer group
Change in clothing or appearance
Unusual smells on clothing or breath
Heavy use of over-the-counter preparations to reduce eye reddening, nasal irritation, or bad breath
Posted by mom of 2, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 1:52 pm
I agree with the comments that much of Pleasanton doesn't want to acknowledge that their children may be exposed to drugs and the ugliness that goes along with that. People think I'm making things up when I talk about the choking game, etc. It's too ugly for them to think about.
My daughter went thru the DARE program and I thought it was great. It started discussions that we could follow-up on. I tivo parts of the news or 20/20 and show her, and she knows I don't make up the serious consequences and dangers associated with kids experimentation and recklessness.
Unfortunately, I know alot about the Meth epidemic as I've basically "lost" a nephew to that drug. It's not recreational and the first hit has been a one-way-ticket for many. I'd like to see more DARE.
Posted by Tom Johanson, a resident of the Ponderosa neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm
My feeling is that the only way parents and others in the community will hear about the wide spread Oxy problem in Pleasanton is via media. The more exposure we give this thing the more pressure can be put upon the PD to crack down on the sales, etc.
Someone asked in this thread of responses where this is coming from? Other than my own child being involved with Oxy in the past, I have run into over 25 parents in the last few months, all of whom have kids in Pleasanton hooked on Oxy. Attend and ALANON meeting sometime in town and see how many parents there are whose children are addicted. It is staggering.
Oxy pills are expensive ($30 a pill on the street).. Pleasanton kids have the money... It seems many like to pretend that our bubble of a city is immune from these types of things, but it simply isn't true. Wake up Pleasanton. We have a huge problem brewing with drugs!
DARE..... what a joke.. when I ask the high school and college aged kids what they learned from DARE, they say they learned how to score drugs, and how they affect you when you take them. So, now we educate our kids on how to obtain drugs... maybe they wouldn't have had a clue how to score some Oxy, Coke, E, or Pot in the past...
Posted by be the parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 3:42 pm
What comes through loud and clear here is that in the entitled land of Pleasanton the parents are so involved with asset acquisition, botox and all other forms of self-centered amusement that they choose not to be parents. Remember the house party in Ruby Hill where the parents not only supplied the booze but sat in the driveway and charged an entry fee to the kids? Real responsible actions. Why are those parents not in jail right now? The police did nothing at all. How about the parents of the drunk Foothill kids who supplied the venue and the booze. Why are they not in jail? Because it seems that the PD is more interested in keeping adults with beer inside the ropes at first Wednesday. And keeping adults with wine inside the stores during the wine stroll. The PD needs to start hammering the parents who provide alcohol, and likely drugs as well, to the kids. Lock them up, seize their assets. If the parents in this town would behave as responsible adults the rest of us would not be expected to figure out how to control their unruly kids.
Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore, on Sep 3, 2009 at 4:26 pm
How come so many residents blame the Police because your kids are addicted to drugs and alcohol?
The police don't control the available drugs and alcohol in your homes and what your kids steal from you behind closed doors. They don't have X-ray vision to see what's going on in the privacy of your homes.
All the finger pointing in the world is not going to help the kids that are addicted to alcohol and/or drugs. They needs medical help asap and not your pointing fingers at the Police.
Posted by be the parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Cholo, the only finger pointed at the police is because when they break up these drunken parties, where the parents provide the alcohol, they don't do anything! It is a perfect opportunity to bust the parents AND the kids but they don't. More than anyone else, I blame the useless parents who pay so little attention to their spoiled little rich kids that the kids get away with everything.
Posted by Hmmm?, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 12, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Be the parent - how do you know the PD doesn't do anything to people (adults or children) hosting underage drinking parties? As it has been noted several times throughout the PW threads, the PW does not post all police activity. So how do you know the PD does nothing??? Maybe the parents who are arrested are to embarassed to tell their friends what happened. I find it very hard to believe that a police officer would totally overlook the fact that an adult is providing alcohol to several underage kids and not do anything. So unless you are at each party and saw the police not arrest each parent, maybe you shouldn't say the police do nothing.
Posted by Al, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 14, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Each time I've needed the help of the PPD they have been WONDERFUL. How about arriving at the home where the two teenage girls called 911 for a burglar in the house: a 3-minute response. This is consistent with the response when my son called about a possible prowler long ago. I am betting they are just as conscientious re our drug issues, which are far more complex. My grateful thanks to the PPD.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 17, 2009 at 10:18 am
All you parents don't get it. Your kids don't get high off your pills in the medicine cabinet. You think you can sustain an addiction off of a limited supply. No, the problem is your doctors! Your kids, whether on your insurance or not, go "doctor shopping" and get many different prescriptions written because of stupid little things. Although doctors are the ones writing off prescriptions like its Christmas year round for drug addicts. Look at the activities of your children going to doctors and their friends. Btw, doctors don't make commission based on how many they write. They just want to give them a short term solution instead of caring. They're the problem that fuels our prescription addiction of our youth.
Plus I know Livermore PD has been targeting this through raids in the Tri-Valley and mostly these pills come from Livermore.
Posted by A Disgusted New Pleasanton Resident, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, on Sep 27, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Foothill High School has problems that need attention by someone who can make a difference! These are BIG problem kids (about 30 of them) who all came to school wasted on the first day of their senior year. These students were allowed to get drunk by parents, who are at the helm of their own child's ship, steering them and all of their friends right into a drunken frenzy! It was the parents that sponsored these "troubled" kids to have boy/girl sleep overs, just asking for even more trouble!
Doesn't that sound like a great idea? A boy/girl sleep over full of 17 and 18 year old teens who have all, for the most part, had a history of drug abuse, inappropriate sexual conduct with multiple partners (friends with benefits), and alcohol usage on a regular basis?
These kids have no boundaries, are allowed to do whatever they want, with their parents continuing to support their terrible, inappropriate, rotten potty mouth behavior thinking they're just tool cool to follow any of the rules. Then, there's Foothill High School that continues to let this stuff happen, over and over again by the SAME problem kids that really belong in Village.
Why should the kids who are trying to get an education be subjected to their nonsense? Because the good kids just keep their heads down, trying not to attract any attention to themselves. Why cant Foothill High School have a "no tolerance policy" when it comes to drugs, weapons and kids showing up wasted to school? Why can't Foothill High School do a better job protecting the kids who are trying to learn?
It's just disgusting that these parents of Foothill High School try to live their life through their kids, thinking coed sleep overs are the way to go, attempting to get their kids more attention with the "IN crowd" at Foothill High. Maybe their shooting for the title of Homecoming Queen or King?
What I know for sure is that these kids at Foothill High that continue to cause trouble will be the same kids that have to live at home after they graduate, sleep in until noon, and be of no benefit to society whatsoever. I truly wish more for all of these kids. Now the parents need to do the same.
What a waste of what was once a great child with hope and dreams of becoming someone great!
Posted by Tom Johanson, a resident of the Ponderosa neighborhood, on Oct 22, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Correct. Kids aren't sustaining their addiction on what they find in mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet. We have real dealers who live in Pleasanton and sell to our kids. Yes, it's the parents responsibility to keep their eyes open and know what their kids are doing. However, you can't watch them 24 hours a day, and if you can help remove some of the drug traffic in the area, you can help many kids find it more difficult to get any Oxy.
Posted by Tom Johanson, a resident of the Ponderosa neighborhood, on Feb 22, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Just found out there are several pain management doctors out there that will prescribe Oxycontin without an exam or diagnosis. One physician in particular, Surinder Sandhu in Fremont is the worst offender. As long as you have insurance or the money to pay her offive visit fee, she will give you a 30 day prescription for Oxy. Then, you have to revisit her every 30 days for a new prescription.. of course, paying her office visit gain. Most of the kids in Pleasanton who are on Oxy know about her.
Posted by a, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Aug 11, 2010 at 5:44 pm
coming from someone who is a recovering addict, pleasanton has a major oxycottin problem. its everywhere! i got addicted to oxycottin last year when it was first coming out in pleasanton and now everyone is doing it and selling it. something has to be done about it and soon before its too late.
Posted by Foothill Parent, a resident of the Parkside neighborhood, on Aug 11, 2010 at 7:58 pm
The info reported in these blogs is so inaccurate - last year on the first day of school a bunch of kids at Foothill did get called to the principals office after a sleep over. Less than a handful had alcohol in their system and got suspended. This rumor that 30 or more kids all arrived drunk is a Pleasanton myth and way exaggerated.
The story about the Ruby Hill parents who allowed their kid to have a pay to enter party, has been brought up so many times it's ridiculous. One kid, one family. This is not a Pleasanton epidemic.
Do teens in this town drink - yes. Do parents in this town allow it - Some do, but most don't. Is this any different than any other town - No. We all need to be the answer and help keep the teens in line, help give them boundaries and parents we need to stick together and not allow drinking at our homes by underage kids.
Parenting is tough work, we need to work together to keep all our kids safe.