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putting down people because of their political affiliation or any belief system is FUTILE!

Original post made by Lynn on Jul 28, 2009

Some of the post I read on this forum really make me embarrassed!

We moved here from Palo Alto a few years ago and the Weekly is owned by Embarcadero Publishing Company in Palo Alto. Palo Alto Weekly has an on live version with a forum as well.

I regularly read that forum. The same major issues and topics are discusses and these are very sensitive issues. I have very rarely ever seen a post or response that was rude, belligerent, racial, or an outright attack.

This REALLY makes me wonder about Pleasantonians!

If I had a teenager, I would be VERY worried and upset about the prospect of them reading the posts in htese forums. These kids learn a form of Rosenthall's NVC, NoN Violent Communication here in Pleasanton schools, in the form of "Community Of Character" and in my childs case T.R.I.B.E.S.

We have studied NVC and used these communication skills for years as a couple and so it's very natural for us.

Are the Pleasanton parents and or other adults even aware that the Pleasanton schools teach this? Are the adults willing to learn or practice NoN Violent communication skills?

Berating and putting down people because of their political affiliation or any belief system is FUTILE!

Comments (17)

Posted by m, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 28, 2009 at 11:50 am

I thought Pleasanton was a high scale community ... intelligent, sophisticated and affluent. It seemed their close proximity to Silicon Valley meant "state of the art" thinking. Yet, I am surprised that Pleasanton exhibits many of the low-scale attributes of Rural America. I can excuse Rural America ... they don't have the educational or cultural exposure we profess to have. Yet, the echoes of extremism shout from the rooftops. It wasn't long ago that Pleasanton was considered a "Red Neck" region of the Bay Area. I wonder if that is still not true. You know, California has many microclimates ... I wonder if Pleasanton isn't living in an alcove of mental depravity. I sure hope not. Maybe it's merely "living the good life" that keeps them down on the farm. I pray that Pleasanton move up the intelligence food chain and become a Mecca for brainier thought ... I hope I am not wrong.


Posted by Whinners, a resident of Downtown
on Jul 28, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Lynn and M, why don't you two just go back to Palo Alto and you can be around people like yourself.........[Portion removed due to disrespectful comment or offensive language]


Posted by Megan, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 12:37 pm

Lynn,

I just spent some time reading the topics and posts and both the Danville as well as Palo Alto Weekly forums.

You are absolutely correct and I am shocked. I am a Conservative Republican and we knew full
Well when chose Pleasanton to raise our family, that we would be surrounded by more "like minded family's" than not, here in Pleasanton. I think the Republican Vote was something like 65% in Pleasanton and we are well known to be far more conservative than most communities in the Bay as well as East Bay Area's.

Our children are now approaching junior high and I am very sad to say that compared to our friends kids in our former community, the kids and parents more so consciousness levels here in P-Town are severely lacking.

The election, the state of our economy, the budget problem of CA and the more recently the problems with the P-Town Measure G, really brought out the true colors of Pleasantonians.

We have listed our home and will take you up on the invitation to "get the Hell out, if you don't like it here".

We are NOT the only ones in our circle of friends that have decided, or are thinking similarly.

The entitlement issues, the infighting, the demeanor and attitudes of some of the residents
Has been a huge turn off and threatens our children's future.

P-Town DOES have a reputation and this is more evident than ever.

Megan


Posted by Phil, a resident of Downtown
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Why doesn't the Palo Alto weekly have as many hateful posts?

Simple. They don't have as many angry, white, racist, rednecks conservatives as Pleasanton. I don't mean to be harsh, but that is the truth.


Posted by changing, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:25 pm

Pleasanton is changing. A small but vocal group of residents wants to go back to the way things were 20 years ago, and it isn't going to happen. These forums are one of the few places they have left to vent their frustration. A lot of them are realizing that time won't go backwards, and they are also leaving. More and more people are moving in from Silicon Valley, and they are bringing diversity and education with them. To people who don't want this, well, they're out of luck.


Posted by JD, a resident of Civic Square
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Thank GOD for that!


Posted by franklin, a resident of Birdland
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Changing,

I think you are quite right. There is a minority of old-school conservative people in town who long for Pleasanton as it was during the Reagan Era. They wish Pleasanton was the same homogeneous, conservative bubble that it was 20 or 30 years ago. I don't think it is a stretch to say there is a racist undertone to much of the hatred. Simply put: THEY HATE CHANGE.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

From the PA Online Town Square... *laugh*

Web Link

Posted by neighbor, a resident of another community, on Jul 26, 2009 at 6:28 am

This discussion is getting weird again -- and is far uglier than the architecture of a building. But note AGAIN...the JCC building went through all of your town's approval hoops, public and private.

Your town in changing, time marches on for all towns. PA is not and can not be the same as when you grew up here, but its physical appearance still has a heck of a lot of charm, and it's services and parks are great.

The only minus is the growing contentious nature of its residents --- and THAT social atmosphere is a considerable minus. Your community image is not very good these days.

If a grand jury is convened, maybe it would be to consider the ugly racist climate that is growing in Palo Alto.

Too much tension over this issue. Get a grip. Let's have some peace (Shalom)


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:46 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Stop trying to shame the people of Pleasanton!


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Web Link

Stop using Palo Alto and Danville/San Ramon as some sort of gold standard with which to shame the people of Pleasanton into not airing their disagreements. Those towns have their own dirty laundry. If we do not disagree on anything, there is no progress. Imagine if the early Americans agreed with the British.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 3:02 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

I agree that some posters can go too far. Don't give attention to that. You don't give attention to a misbehaving child, do you? I'm not going to defend those behaviors. All I'm trying to say is that this is a completely ridiculous topic of discussion and I think it is time for someone to disagree and stand up for the right of another to have their opinions and post them here.


Posted by Judy Smith, a resident of Fairlands Elementary School
on Jul 28, 2009 at 4:23 pm

You're one to talk about shaming the people of Pleasanton. You do it to 80 year old men asking for people to donate to the schools. You are constantly chiding and correcting those for posting their opinions when you don't agree. The posters here are talking about you. Maybe you should stop.


Posted by franklin, a resident of Birdland
on Jul 28, 2009 at 4:39 pm

Right on Judy Smith! I think we were having a good discussion until Stacey had to come along with her typical illogical rant. Stacey is a classic example of someone who can't think outside of her Pleasanton bubble. Maybe she should get back to rationalizing why she is too cheap to pay for Pleasanton schools.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 5:32 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Admit it, Judy, you agreed with me.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 28, 2009 at 5:53 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

For the benefit of readers who didn't see it, Judy is referring to a letter to the editor written by an 80 year old member of this community. While urging for donations to the schools, he also wrote about Measure G and those who voted for or against it. I found it completely inappropriate to bring up Measure G and the way people voted and pointed this out. Judy is upset with me for doing that.

When we (all of us; including Judy, the 80 year old, and myself) write and are published in a public manner, others are free to criticize. I felt justified criticizing the letter just as Judy feels justified criticizing me in doing so and I do not find anything out of the ordinary about that. That's simply the nature of public discourse.

What I do find extraordinary is the idea that writers are supposed to stop simply because a segment of society disagrees with them. Honestly, Judy, so what if I chide and/or correct? What do you expect of people to be writing about, fluffy kittens? I don't deny others their opinions if they disagree. I engage with them. THAT'S A FORUM!


Posted by Doctor, a resident of Castlewood
on Jul 28, 2009 at 5:56 pm

Stacey,

Have you been evaluated by a professional for rapid cycling Bi Polar?

You seriously may want to think about getting an evaluation if you have not done so.

I mean this sincerely, as I am concerned about you!


Posted by m, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 28, 2009 at 5:58 pm

I agree that open dialog is a good thing. I think extremist views are a sign of the times. Extreme times bring out extreme logics ... Pleasanton is no exception.


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