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Looks like all you California rich folks are going to get surtaxed!

Original post made by Karl Marx, Civic Square, on Jul 8, 2009

House Democrats led by the representatives from California are going to tax the wealthy making over $200,000 a surtax to help pay for free healthcare.


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Posted by Let's Go
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 8, 2009 at 9:05 pm

Guess it's not just the California rich folks. It's anyone making over $200K. Interesting what you chose to draw from the article.

Of course, Nancy Pelosi IS the speaker of the house...

Why not focus on efforts NOT to increase the deficit? Well, I guess that MIGHT show fiscal responsibility on the part of the Democrats...

Slowing growth in costs and extending coverage - sounds good to me!


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Posted by Another Gatetree Resident
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jul 9, 2009 at 5:18 am

WOW -- seems like the key here is to find a way to survive on $199k a year or less.


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Posted by Love Palin
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 7:21 am

And Republicans really control spending. Just ask Bush. $750 Billion increase in deficit spending in 2008 alone, and on just one program.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 7:47 am

Obama is losing popularity. CNN had an article about that today. I agree that if people knew just what Obama was planning - to insure the poor at the expense of the middle class (because in California 200K is middle class), he would not have gotten elected. Well, maybe he would have, since McCain picked Palin. It was a tough election, to decide between Obama and Palin/McCain, two horrible choices.

2010 will be just like 1994... remember when Hillary tried to reform healthcare?


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Posted by Excuse Me?
a resident of Las Positas Garden Homes
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:19 am

Resident - "... in California 200K is middle class" Are you insane? Please tell me you were being sarcastic. I don't make anywhere near that... as a matter of fact, I make under $100K, and I'm considered Middle Class. If you think $200K is Middle Class, you're very out of touch with reality.


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Posted by Mommy
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:24 am

I like how they call people making over $200k "Rich". They need to raise that amount to $300k or $400k. When you have a single income fmaily & multiple children $200k doesn't go so far. You aren't so "Rich"!


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Posted by Ken in South Pleasanton
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:32 am

The tax will be written to hit those making >$200K, however, we will all be paying for it in the future, regardless of your income level. And to "Love Palin, another Pleasanton community", how many trillions of dollars has the Obama administration committed you, me, and future generations to since taking office? And how many trillion dollars will his health care plan commit us to? Republicans and democrats alike share blame and shame for what they are doing to our economy. Vote them all out at the next opportunity and get some real citizens in office who are not tied to big unions and other self-interest groups. These 'leaders' are only interested in retaining their elected positions and the power that comes with the positions.


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Posted by Kelly
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:33 am

It's really sad that they think that $200K is wealthy when you work your butt off and it doesn't go very far in CA.


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Posted by resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:39 am

Regardless how much you make, the hens have come home to roost. Too much spending over too many decades and the sky begins falling. Instead of cutting costs we raise taxes. But when I talk about cutting costs, I'm talking about doctors and lawyers and Indian chiefs who charge abnormal amounts of money for their services. They have been gouging all of us for years then blame it on liberals or conservatives or the boogie-man. Next time you go to your doctor, ask him if he could help rescue your lifestyle by charging 50% less so there's more to go around ... oh yeah! s/he'll be laughing so hard, you may not get that colonoscopy you desparately needed.


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Posted by Let's Go
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:40 am

With all due respect, I don't know how even a large family could have a difficult time on $200,000. If you can't live very comfortably on 200K, even here in the Bay Area, your budget is out of whack.


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:03 am

Einstein is a registered user.

Well I believe that $200,000 figure is adjusted gross income but make no mistake about it there is no way that taxing the "rich" will generate enough income to pay for free healthcare for 40,000,000 people and remember this, 10,000,000 are uncovered because they are between the ages of 18-29 and choose not to pay for it or want it, 10,000,000 make over $75,000 per year but do not want the healthcare, 10,000,000 are illegal immigrants, so in reality we are talking about all of these sacrifices in income and prosperity for about 10,000,000 people.

In addition, we should not forget that when all of this stuff goes through, carbon tax or cap and trade, stimulus 1, stimulus 2, TARP, omulus, budget, wars in Iraq, Afganistan, rebuilding of GAZA we are all going to pay through additional job loss, high interest rates, high energy costs, high fuel costs, and no matter how you slice it higher income taxes across the board. We are in serious trouble and for the first time I get the feeling that people are truly beginning to realize it or at least I hope so.


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Posted by Me
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:10 am

Republicans let's not revise history. The two largest spending era's in US history (using both real and nominal measurements) were initiated using supply side economics - GW and GH respectively. All while shifting tax burdens from the upper down to the middle and upper middle classes. (That is call redistributing the wealth, but you never heard it said that way by the shrubs) Ironically the moist far reaching wellfare reform (reducing lifetime benefits down to five years) was intiated by Bill Clinton.

Now as far as 200K -- I agree in California, that is not rich -- they need to move the ceiling up if thier intention is to strengthen the middle class (which is the foundation of any stron economy and great nation)


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Posted by Alison
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:12 am

Einstein,

I am actually hopeful in all this chaos as well. I think people are finally seeing what happens when you create unsustainable fiscal obligations that are not neccessary. I am not happy for anyone that has lost their job and were contributing. But I am glad that they feel the reality of what is being taken from them and expected of them when they get a new job.

Reality bites, so the saying goes, and consquences usually do, but you know, sometimes it takes a little humbling to get things right. I just hope that the "serious trouble" Einstein spoke of people beginning to "realize" we are in includes Obama. I'd really like to see him let go of an ideology that sounded great in *theory* and get back to what we know works: reduced spending, incentives for businesses, and programs for those that really need it.

Recently, my family had another family over for dinner. The husband is out of work. He went on a few job interviews and was even offered a job. He declined it. Why? Because he gets paid more on unemployment.

Terrific program that gives people the incentive to stay out of work and we wonder why? People need incentive to work and usually that is prosperity. Benefits shouldn't replace incentive, they should only help soften the blow that will encourage someone to get back in the fight.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:16 am

$200K is a lot of money, but in this area it doesn't qualify you as rich. For starters, you don't really have $200K to spend. After (heavy) taxes and retirement savings you probably have a little over $110K, which is still a lot of money. Subtract a house payment on a $600K home (about average, possibly low for this area) and that nice salary is getting smaller fast. Send a kid or two to college, where you'll get no help because you're "too rich" and all of a sudden that $200K isn't looking so great. My point is that yes, $200K is a significant amount of money, but given the high cost of living in this area, it hardly qualifies someone raising a family as rich; just comfortable.


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:25 am

Einstein is a registered user.

Allison,

Thank you for your comments. It is only I believe common sense that the policies will not and can not work and we must find ways of meaningfully getting the economy going again and I believe that must be by lowering taxes and reforming what we are currently spending our money on. I would guarantee that enough unnecessary programs could be cut to fund many of the things deemed necessary. We seem to be supporting half of the world and I see no end in sight. In answer to your question about Obama please see the attached link to the daily Rasmussan Poll and he is now -8 or the lowest he has been since being elected and has dropped 6 since the beginning of the week. Additionally, Gallup released a poll today which says he is losing the support of independents and in two states (Virginia and New Jersey)the democratic incumbants are now behind in the polls by double digits.


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Posted by Judy
a resident of another community
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:43 am

If $200,000 is adjusted gross income for one wage earner in the family then that is probably considered upper middle class. In California it usually takes 2 wage earners to earn that amount. Then I would consider that middle class. Middle class has always been the ones who have paid the most taxes so why change now. If we could only see where all our tax dollars are spent we would really protest. There is such a waste in certain areas of the stimulus package that was just passed. Ask Babara Boxer about her little rat project.


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Posted by Unemployed
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:46 am

Economy is not recovering even after giving out $750B. Democrates will another stimulus package to fund the illegals and lower income wage earners. All this while the middles and upper classis footing the bill. How many times can "Robinhood" go rob the 'rich' and support the poor. This is going to make interesting movie 10 years from now. Enough is enough. Nancy, wake up and smell the coffee or whatever you smoke! If you want socialism, go to England and other countries, not the U.S.A. where freedom and success is based on freedom of action and capitalism. If you don't like it, don't change it for the rest of us. Obama, take your socialism back to Kenya. We cannot pay for all the social welfare programs the democrates want to fund. How much tax can you impose until the 'poor' is getting more $'s for not working and for coming into this country illegally? There is a limit to the resources. The American public has to wake up and realize where this country, land of opportunities, is headed. Creating $10/hr jobs won't recover the economy. Let's fix the problems once and for all. Everyone has an opportunity to exercise their rights in about 15 months - the next election - and do what is right! Everyone must share the burden not just the so-call 'rich'. CA legislature wants to raise our taxes and Uncle Obama/Auntie Nancy want to raise our taxes, what's left!?!?! Enough is enough. Write your congressman and senators and express your true feelings. Stand up! [I am still unemployed since Jan 2009]


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Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:15 am

Obama= Tax & Spend Liberal/Socialist Democrat
Bush = Spend & Spend (stealth) Liberal Republican

...which is worse again?


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:17 am

Excuse Me?

I have no idea how you live on that income, but yes, I believe 200K is middle class in California, considering the cost of living - from housing to sales tax; besides, once you compute the NET income (after taxes and all that), it is not as great.


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Posted by No Loons
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:18 am

Why is anyone surprised by this? Obama was the most liberal senator in the Senate. Given the makeup of the Senate, that should have given most people pause. Well, guess what folks, you're now finding out what Obama's "Change" is all about - Communism. The left-wing loons have a filabuster-proof government and this country is never going to be the same again. The American Century is going under and Obama and the loons in Congress have it in a power dive.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:19 am

Nosy Neighbors:

Both Obama and Bush are bad. I thought we could not get worse than W, until Obama now is pushing for all this nonsense.


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Posted by Fuentes
a resident of Happy Valley
on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:31 am

No Loons,

I agree with you 100%.

What is happening under Obama would be very comical, if it weren't so serious. Just take a look at which heads of state in the western hemisphere are backing the Leftist who was in the process of solifying his position as a Communist dictator in Honduras -- Raul Castro, Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega, and Barack Obama. Even Hugo Chavez says that Barack Obams is further left than either he or Raul Castro. Refresh yourself on the economy of the Soviet Union - as long as Obama, Pelosi and Reed are at the controls, that is your future.


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Posted by Unemployed
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:35 am

So, when will the American public vote out the filabuster 'proof' senate out? 15 months from now! BTW, I am not a registered Republican. I am just a concerned citizen of the United States. Now we have seen the real Obama and real Congress/Senate and time to change is NOW.


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Posted by Mrsnesbit
a resident of Stoneridge
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:22 am

I hate to tell you guys but our family is about to HAVE to leave our treasured Pleasanton because our income has dropped from $75K to about $40 because of layoffs. I've lived here for more than 15yrs and we moved here because it was much more affordable than the south bay. From our eyes $200K looks awesome...and yes we do have dependents. Please consider that we're probably your neighbors and we're hurting.


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Posted by kristine
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:29 am

ok, let's refresh our political history here.

"Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general." (Wikipedia)

Obama has never said that we need to do away with the difference between rich and poor. Obama has never said that all property should belong to "the people" or the state. Obama has never said that everyone should work for the state, and all companies should be run by the state.

Obama is not advocating communism.

Unlike Castro, Chavez, and Ortega, President Obama has never advocated or participated in armed rebellion or overthrow of a previous government. He worked within our country's election laws to become a senator, and then President.

And he's certainly not as liberal as Bernie Sanders, senator from Vermont, who has described himself as a democratic socialist.

Oh, and Einstein, where in your figures about the uninsured does my uncle fall -- not eligible for health insurance through his job, and not able to afford even the simplest major medical policy? Or my cousins, newly graduated from college and cobbling together part-time jobs because they can't find full-time work? Or my aunt who isn't eligible for most coverage because her diabetes is a "pre-existing condition"?

I am upper middle class, my family will probably be taxed more in order to fund the health care plan, and I'm OK with that.


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Posted by mary
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:31 am

Resident, MOMMY, Kelly and whoever else thinks 200k is middle (MEDIAN) class!

Get a grip on your sheltered thinking! The Bay Area and Wealthy parts of So Cal DO NOT represent the (MEDIAN) or average income figures of California residents by ANY means. And less than 10% of Californians make 200K for a family!

The MEDIAN Income is as follows:

California State Median Income for FFY 2008/2009
Estimated state median income for a 4-person family 75 Percent of State Median Income *

Family of:

ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX
$29,172 $38,149 $47,125 $56,101 $65,077 $74,053

Further the over inflated housing values in affluent CA area's has only made it SEEM like $200K is middle class.

The median home price in California is now around 250K

The era of 100-200k jobs is OVER and nobody is getting top dollar or raises anymore. There are NO jobs and unemployment is close to 12% in CA.

Many, Many, many company's in CA have shut down! There has been MASS layoffs! Most companies have a hiring freeze and or wage freeze, and or the employee's have taken salary or hour cuts,or both! Things are getting worse every month and this will continues for at LEAST another year! The GLOBAL banking system is NEAR COLLAPSE! The U.S. banking system all but collapsed! California has COLLAPSED as a State!

Now if you think that $200k is middle class and that you need that to get by, you are living far beyond your means! Ya think? Hmm, Job loss and foreclosures are rampant! People even in the $200k income bracket uses their houses as an ATM in mass numbers! The I WANT IT ENTITLEMENT thinking is so prevalent in more affluent area's of CA.
The average Pleasanton resident, including my wife who was born and raised here, truly believe that Pleasanton represents California Living! We have 70k residents and less that 30k middle age income producers. Now take San Jose with millions of residents. The average "middle class" family of 4 is California earns around $56,000

Suggestion: Get out a little! Spend some time in Sac or S.J.
Listen to Suzy Orman and TIGHTEN the spending Belt!

Based on all the derma spa's in town, the fancy retraunts and the cars people drive, I can only assume that people in Pleasanton feels these luxury's to me necessary! This is simply not reality!


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Country Fair
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:32 am

Mrsnesbit,

pretty sad all the way around and I hope everything works out well for you in the end but I fear this is just the beginning as things seem to be getting harder and harder. Until we get a chance to vote we need to speak loudly with voices and be heard. Big spending and liberal ideals need to go so we can continue to live.


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Posted by mary
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:34 am

P.s.

Go check out his INSANE anti Obama thread:
STATE, NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL
Obama's Intentions You Ask? It's CRITICAL That You Read About the "CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY"- SCARY for ALL (Both Dems & Repubs)
Obama's real intentions should scare all US citizens -- both Democrats and Republicans -- who care about this country. Obama adheres to the Saul Alinksy "Rules for Radical... READ MORE/COMMENT
Posted by Jean, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, 1 hour ago
There have been 2 comments on this topic, the most recent 29 minutes ago.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Country Fair
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:38 am

Kristine,

Everyone can get free healthcare just walk into any clinic and they will treat you. There is a free clinic right in Civic Center Shopping Center and if you walk in and have no money nor insurance they will treat you for free as I have done it. So please do not mislead people with false information.

Additionally, Obama is a Marxist rather than a communist.


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Posted by mary
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:42 am

Mrsnesbit,

You wrote:

"pretty sad all the way around and I hope everything works out well for you in the end but I fear this is just the beginning as things seem to be getting harder and harder. Until we get a chance to vote we need to speak loudly with voices and be heard. "

GO VOTE! Are you locked up in prison?

"Big spending and liberal ideals need to go so we can continue to live."

Are you ignorant or do you have blinders on? What you conservatives are doing is blaming a failing Country on a NEW PRESIDENT! Bush Jr and SR, who you must have voted for, had more out of control spending, than any other presidents combined! AND you all said NOTHING for eight years, because you had a "Christian" President!

You need to wake up! Obama inherited a HUGE mess and he is NOT alone in try to work it out! In FACT, you conservitives have a HUGE part in HIS actions and decisions!


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Posted by tax sucker
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:51 am

I'm always puzzled why BayArea would vote for HIGH TAXERS to office, when our COL, thus pay, is higher than most parts of the US..so suicidal ! Dummies from Iowa & KY write our laws penalizing those RICH Californians, & dummy CA vote for that team. Remember the all DEM Pelosi House & Senate was in total CONTROL of DC for 2 yrs before Obama. We KNEW what he & they were going to do. We did NOT know they were going to RAM 1200 page bills, written in the night thru. or implement a WHOLE NEW socialized med program, & implement a whole new UNscientific GREEN GESTAPO with zero public debate, & not ALLOWING any Congressional discussion. We KNEW the social agenda of total redistribution WAS going to happen.....JUST LIKE IT IS. It's just that Obama got the gift of having a 'crisis excuse' to use & disguise for history...but totally expected since he started campaigning 5 yrs ago. Too bad we're not allowed to debate the costs. Sad thing about 'stimulus' is 80% of it hasn't been SPENT yet..it's for those campaign promises of redistribution & restructuting that he always planned, But stimulus has NOT HELPED OUR MEDIUM SIZED COMPANIES IN THE BAY AREA !!!! It's all for the PERMANENTLY UNemployable in the inner-cities !


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Posted by Unemployed
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:24 pm

I feel left out with no one commenting on my blogs. Obama's true self is showing now, after getting into office. I don't see anyone advocating the use of our voting power at the next election to get the ship back on course. I don't mind pay my taxes (even on my unemployment checks!) but how much is enough... It's not the bottomless well that Obama and the democrates are advocating! If one is jealous of the rich, wake up and do something for yourself. It's in everyone's power to pursue the economic power... this is a free country!


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Posted by Alison
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Einstein,

No link posted. Can you try again?

Thanks!


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Einstein is a registered user.

Alison,

sorry about that as Einstein is not always so adept with computer. This is an interesting poll and has tracked quite well during Obama's presidency as well as Bush.


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:31 pm

Einstein is a registered user.

Unemployed,

don't feel left out as I believe most agree or at least are beginning to see things that way but the question is what to do until the mid term elections when I believe there will be resounding change. As a matter of fact I firmly believe the democrats believe their time in power is short and that is why they are driving through everything they can now. About the only thing we can do now is what we are doing and that is absorbing facts and communicating what is going on not only to others but also to our elected officials.


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Posted by joyce
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:48 pm

Tom Jefferson would be saddened to learn we have 'leaders' wanting
a 'SURCHARGE TAX" on productivity, individuality, & accomplishment...
..SO UNAmerican. Incentives are what made US the envey of the world. Salaries, houses, & cost of living are NOT the same in San Fran, Tucson, NewYork, Memphis, Bismark, Honolulu. The elite rulers & country clubbers in Bismark are hot shots earning 460,000. yr in a
huge home they would not be able to qualify for in San Fran. Yet they sit on committees in DC & write law to TAX middle-incomeers in SanFran. Really stupid BayArea folk allow that UNjustness to exist. It's their same mentality that keep BayArea middle-class white males from being able to attend college. Even Stanford says $100K means kids are from "rich" families....(not with 3 college age & a hi tech Dad that can't make house payments because of pay REDUCATION. Yet these 'poor mid-westerners' set GUIDELINES for both coasts. I'd say start a revolution & put an end to setting these ARHBITRARY ceilings for people in all 50 states. ....back to the drawing board. INjustice cannot be tolerated.


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Posted by joyce
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm

ABOVE......that's $ 60,000. year. $ & 4 are the same key. ..not techie enough to transfer the info.


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Posted by mary
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Alison,

You just LOST all credibility in my book.

"Recently, my family had another family over for dinner. The husband is out of work. He went on a few job interviews and was even offered a job. He declined it. Why? Because he gets paid more on unemployment."

REALLY?

The maximum unemployment weekly benefit is $450.00 a week.
To get an award for the maximum amount of about $2100.00 a week, or about $25,000 a year, one would have had to make around $5000.00 a month previously.

It is NOT possible to make more on unemployment than your previous income, or even close to it!

NEXT?



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Posted by mary
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 2:41 pm

I meant $2100.00 a moth averaged, sorry

Sounds like you need some new friends?


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Posted by new mom
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jul 9, 2009 at 4:06 pm

My husband makes $650,000 and we live in Ruby Hills. I feel very depressed because we could not go to Europe this summer. You see it's not just low income people feeling the pinch. It hurts at all levels.


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Posted by Glen
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm

mary,

it is possible to match you take home or even more dependent on income level if you go out on disability or time for time as when you are out you are excused from child support and alimony by the state. This and not paying for gas in some cases increases take home pay significantly and you can stiff the old lady big time.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 9, 2009 at 4:19 pm

as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end...

NOW PAY...illegals need FREE HEALTH care. PAY UP so that they can walk into any ER in the nation and get FREE MEDICAL CARE!

While you whine about paying too much in taxes, some of us lay low, keep our ears open so that we can figure out how to work the system.

Given what you get in return for living in the great country, it's little enough.




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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 9, 2009 at 4:41 pm

new mom...are you cool or what? I love to visit Donostia/San Sebastian every summer. If you send a check for a RT tic to my PO Box, I guarantee that l'll tell you where to go and how to get there! That way, we can both be vacation winners...a deal?

Here's a hug from your friend....Cholo!




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Posted by Don
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 9, 2009 at 5:16 pm

"Posted by Glen, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, 58 minutes ago

mary,
it is possible to match you take home or even more dependent on income level if you go out on disability or time for time as when you are out you are excused from child support and alimony by the state. This and not paying for gas in some cases increases take home pay significantly and you can stiff the old lady big time."

Cholo, Nice try! You are so predictable!


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Posted by Glen
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 9, 2009 at 5:25 pm

Mary, I know she can be annoying but I am not Cholo and do not want to be. I used to work in workers compensation and this is just one of the many loopholes employed in order to cheat the system. Another thing they do is go out on an industrial injury if you think either the company is going out on strike or you will be laid off and you at that point are untouchable.


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Posted by kirsten
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:37 pm

"new mom" doesn't live in Ruby Hill because if she did, she would know there's no s on the end of Ruby Hill. She's pulling our leg.


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Posted by Don
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 9, 2009 at 8:53 pm

I'm Cholo. You're Glen or Jon.

I do not want to be Glen who incidentally is Glenda, wicked witch of the east...

Now, who's on first?


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Posted by Viva La Revolution!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2009 at 11:30 pm

My crystal ball tells me that by 2022 California will be fed up with MALDEF, La Raza & all the mexican hate groups that we will finally pass some form of severe immigration reform, all illegals from mexico, central & s. america, asia & canada (those damn hockey loving, doughnut eating bastards!)will either be deported or simply denied ANY services & that we will finally balance our budget, create a surplus & start a nationwide trend that president clinton (chelsea) will even be forced to adopt.

...wait my meds just kicked in...nevermind, we're screwed.


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Posted by Jon
a resident of Danbury Park
on Jul 10, 2009 at 12:49 am

Viva La Cholo,

What on gods green earth are you smoking?


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2009 at 12:03 pm

This was posted on CNNtoday:

Web Link

House Dems propose tax on wealthy to fund health care

From Deirdre Walsh
CNN Congressional Producer

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee on Friday proposed a graduated tax on wealthy Americans to pay for health care reform, several Democratic sources told CNN.

The new tax would apply to individuals who make more than $280,000 a year and married couples who make more than $350,000, the sources said.

Individuals making up to $400,000 and couples making up to $500,000 would be assessed a 1 percent tax on their adjusted gross income, they said. A higher rate would apply to individuals making up to $800,000 and for couples making up to $1 million per year, and an even higher rate would apply to individuals and couples with higher incomes.

The rates for the tax on the two higher brackets are still being finalized, the sources said.

Committee Democrats jettisoned other ideas to pay for the reform, including new taxes on sugary drinks or an increase in Medicare payroll taxes.

Sources say the new tax is expected to bring in $540 billion over 10 years. The new revenue, combined with approximately $500 billion in projected savings from health care reforms, would offset the roughly $1 trillion that the House Democrats' bill is expected to cost, they said.

The Congressional Budget Office has not yet released its cost estimate on the House bill.

House Democratic leaders are planning to introduce their legislation Monday. The committees focused on health care in the House are expected to bring consideration on the bill later next week."


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Posted by Resident
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on Jul 11, 2009 at 12:07 pm

This was posted on CNN on 7/10/09:

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"House Dems propose tax on wealthy to fund health care

From Deirdre Walsh

CNN Congressional Producer

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee on Friday proposed a graduated tax on wealthy Americans to pay for health care reform, several Democratic sources told CNN.

The new tax would apply to individuals who make more than $280,000 a year and married couples who make more than $350,000, the sources said.

Individuals making up to $400,000 and couples making up to $500,000 would be assessed a 1 percent tax on their adjusted gross income, they said. A higher rate would apply to individuals making up to $800,000 and for couples making up to $1 million per year, and an even higher rate would apply to individuals and couples with higher incomes.

The rates for the tax on the two higher brackets are still being finalized, the sources said.

Committee Democrats jettisoned other ideas to pay for the reform, including new taxes on sugary drinks or an increase in Medicare payroll taxes.

Sources say the new tax is expected to bring in $540 billion over 10 years. The new revenue, combined with approximately $500 billion in projected savings from health care reforms, would offset the roughly $1 trillion that the House Democrats' bill is expected to cost, they said.

The Congressional Budget Office has not yet released its cost estimate on the House bill.

House Democratic leaders are planning to introduce their legislation Monday. The committees focused on health care in the House are expected to bring consideration on the bill later next week."


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