Posted by frank, a resident of the Pleasanton Heights neighborhood, on Jun 17, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Is there anyone out there that is NOT a Rush/Cheney/Newt/Palin ideologue? Any group who actually critically thinks for themselves and might be in opposition with valid arguments to the current obama democrats? No? Who are you?
James Earl Ray and Lee Harvey Oswald need not apply.
This insane hate of Obama has got to stop. The Rush's, the O'Reilly's, and the Glenn Beck's along with the Sean Hannity's have got to stop the hate language. These hate-mongers should be banished from our society.
Posted by Ron, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 11:35 am
Frank, I wasn't watching these pages a year ago so I suppose you posted your opposition to the "insane hate" towards Bush as well. Just want to be sure you're not being hypocritical on the issue. If you've previously referred to Air America, Nancy Pelosi, Keith Olberman, James Carville and others of their ilk as haters and hate-mongers then I would say your statements are over the top but at least consistent.
Posted by Ron, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 11:45 am
You made very logical, rational, and reasonable arguments in the Measure G discussions. But equating mentally deranged criminals with talk show hosts and politicians you do not like is rather ridiculous. Do you really believe comments like yours move us in a positive direction?
Posted by Ron, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Kettleblack, conservative and liberal web sites are not "the media". Nor are commentators, politicians, or talk show hosts. The complaints of media bias from the right refers to bias in journalism. It is rather blatant from some sources and subtle from others. It's there and we all know it. I know your post is an attempt to lash out at the many Obama-related posts recently but let's not confuse "the media" and journalism with commentary.
Posted by resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I think the appropriate label for what people like Rush, Hannity, Coulter, and O'Reilly are doing is demagoguery (see definitions below). What scares me are the people who are so clearly influenced in their opinions and rhetoric as a result of demagoguery. This isn't a comment about the left or right, it's a comment on how easily people are manipulated. I also wish that the line between journalism and demagoguery was more distinct. For example, Fox news is often not news at all, but commentary from spin doctors.
1. a person, esp. an orator or political leader, who gains power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people.
2. (in ancient times) a leader of the people.
–verb (used with object)
3. to treat or manipulate (a political issue) in the manner of a demagogue; obscure or distort with emotionalism, prejudice, etc.
Posted by Rae, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Your definition of "media" may have been correct before the advent of television, however, it is no longer completely accurate.
I think if you check any up-to-date dictionary, the definition of "media" (plural of medium) will be similar to the following:
"Communication channels through which news, entertainment, education, data, or promotional messages are disseminated. Media includes every broadcasting and narrowcasting medium such as newspapers, magazines, TV, radio, billboards, direct mail, telephone, fax, and internet".
In other words, any medium that can be used to inform or influence people.
Posted by Ron, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Rae, that is the correct definition of media or medium but it is not what is referenced by the right when they complain of bias in the media. They are referring to news outlets which should be providing unbiased, untainted information. They aren't referring to commentators on TV or radio or editorials in publications.
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2009 at 4:49 pm Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
I was responding to Very Concerned's statement regarding the threat level of "conservatives", which didn't mention anything about talk show hosts and politicians. These deranged criminals self-identify as "conservatives" or "right-wingers" which makes them a problem for the more moderate and normal conservatives just as Islamic terrorists are a problem for many moderate Muslims just as extreme left-wingers are a problem for the more moderate and normal liberals, etc. Of course no one likes to be lumped in like that, but that's how our radicalized media frames the world.