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Three face charges in robbery, beating on Vineyard

Original post made on May 13, 2009

Three of the five men arrested May 4 will face charges for allegedly robbing and beating a man and threatening to beat up another man on Vineyard Avenue, according to Pleasanton Police.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 3:26 PM

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Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of Stoneridge Park
on May 13, 2009 at 8:10 am

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I guess Barlow really really wanted to go back to prison. The good news is that he's taking a couple of his homies (hoods) with him. I wonder why the DA let the other two hoods off.

Posted by Jeffery H, a resident of Vineyard Hills
on May 13, 2009 at 8:26 am

Crime is everywhere...and it's creeping it's way over the hills and into the Tri-Valley. Within 5 years this will be a back page story.

Posted by momzilla, a resident of Downtown
on May 13, 2009 at 9:35 am

Was there right before it happened with a large gathering of the 2:00pm crowd just getting out of school at the gas station corner, then drove by again in a few minutes and there were no less than 5 police cars there with the 'suspects' on the bench in the park, head in hands.....
The police should just sit and wait there every afternoon and 'sweep it up''s the same guys every day. Sounds like a planned beat-down after school. Secondly, maybe the apartment managers in the area should start doing background checks before renting...stop the problem before it takes root. Some of these guys live in the vicinity, see them all the time walking around (apparently no job)... getting tired of seeing this go on day after day in one specific area...shouldn't be rocket science to fix it.

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on May 13, 2009 at 9:55 am

Momzilla--the after school crowd happens to be getting out of the Village Convict (oops "continuation") school. Those good-for-nothings walk from the convict school to their homes in the Vintage area and they vandalize private property the entire way. Walk along First Street sometime and try to find undamaged picket fences. Think those home owners want a convict school in their neighborhood?
Good for the PPD in arresting these pieces of garbage. The two that the DA let off had no priors, yet, but we know they will. They are all headed down the same path. The parents should be locked up with em, they raised their kids to be burdens on society.

Posted by Appalled, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2009 at 10:30 am

Most of the comments here so far are appalling and full of hate, ignorance and should disgust most Pleasantonians
"convict" school? I mean really....this is what breeds contempt for your manicured lawns and fractured minds....all hoods? come on, two were let go - INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
the three youth that are responsible for this are behind bars - let's sigh a sigh of relief for that and move on....

Posted by Furious Mother, a resident of Downtown
on May 13, 2009 at 12:20 pm

How stupid can that person be to critize Village school. What an assinine comment. My son went to Village school and because of Mr Pappion and the rest of the teachers there he was able to graduate and go on to college. He was not a druggy or a good for nothing person. How dare you bad mouth young people who are trying to get their lives back on track, are your kids so perfect? You probably don't even know what they do or did while in school.
Shame on you....

Posted by momzilla, a resident of Downtown
on May 13, 2009 at 12:23 pm

I'm not picking on Village....there are plenty of kids leaving Amador at 2:00 (those not taking a full class load) and walking up that way......check it out, especially on a Friday, and now with the weather getting warmer, they'll be hanging out like flies in Kottinger Village Park. Might as well post an officer there every afternoon and evening.

Posted by Michael, a resident of Livermore
on May 13, 2009 at 12:27 pm

If found guilty let them do their time and hopefully they will be better off for it and if this is their second offense which it sounds like they are looking at minimum of 3 to 5 in level III.

I hope the parents of the other two are keeping them close to the house.

Posted by momzilla, a resident of Downtown
on May 13, 2009 at 12:43 pm

The discussion of 'schools' is irrelevant, as all but one of the suspects would be much to old for high school. The reality of the situation is that Kottinger Village Park is a magnet for a lot of kids/young adults up to no good. The park is a neighborhood park that is well used by the surrounding area, but in recent times it is not a place you'd want to take your little kids to swing or play. I don't want my kids cutting thru the park to downtown AND I have to admit that I have second thoughts about it, depending on the time of day. Let's take back this area for the good of the neighborhood and get rid of the trash! PPD could be showing more 'presence' on a regular basis to deter the 'activities' and move that element along. The people that want to enjoy the park won't mind having them there at all!

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on May 13, 2009 at 1:54 pm

I am simply delighted that the criminals will have to do time! HOORAY!

As for the bleeding hearts that are mouthing off, go crow about it someplace else. Sheeeesch...

Like Qwerty said, take a pill. just doesn't get better than this...hahahahahahaha...

Posted by not a judge, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2009 at 2:10 pm

Remember these are not "youths". These suspects all are adults. Once one turns 18 years old, one is an adult. May not act adult, but in this society, is an adult. Maybe all parents should enforce and re-enforce this point. This can't be chalked up as kids acting like kids. These are adults, acting like criminals.

Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of Stoneridge Park
on May 13, 2009 at 2:54 pm

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@ Appalled:
I've never agreed with "innocent until proven guilty".
The two let go might be "not guilty", but "innocent"???
I highly doubt that.

Posted by Missy O'Neal, a resident of another community
on May 13, 2009 at 7:24 pm

You people in Pleasanton are so opinionated. You judge people like you are perfect. I guess Village doesn't fit into your perfect little city. Gee, I didn't know you also have people who commit crimes there, too. Well, get used to it. Crime is everywhere. Pleasanton is no different. Stop saying such mean things to each other. To AVHS DAD, who are you? You seem to comment on everything. Have a nice day people!

Posted by Sam Moore, a resident of another community
on May 13, 2009 at 7:32 pm

I agree with you, Missy. Pleasanton people are really something. I used to live in Pleasanton. You have to be a certain way to fit in. Actually, it just got too exspensive to live there. My son wanted a new car so he would fit in at Foothill High. Now I guess Pleasanton is feeling the reality of crime. Oh, my, what will they do!

Posted by Michael, a resident of Livermore
on May 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm


Let the courts try the case and justice will be done as it always is. If they are guilty they will do time and if they are second timers it will be 3-5. On your other issues regarding Pleasanton, well the same could be said of people in most cities in California and just the way it is when you get 37,000,000 people in one small area. Be yourself and do right and don't worry about others and it will all work out.

Posted by Brandon, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2009 at 11:11 pm

Pleasantonians should rise and take back our streets from these thugs.

Posted by Einstein, a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on May 14, 2009 at 7:20 pm

Einstein is a registered user.

Hey Cholo, can you tell me what is a Cholo or what does it mean?

Posted by Appalled, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 14, 2009 at 7:23 pm

AVHS Dad - so you don't believe in the American way? What are you, a commie? Go to Turkey then...OR if you prefer to stay here, then work to change the laws - until then, the American system of justice is the best we have

Cholo - you are sad - just sad

thanks Missy for your comments, they were spot on - folks here are extremely opinionated and generally right leaning...look at any number of these town square posts and you will see that - it's a sad reflection of this community I live in and still love despite that glaring fact....

as for all of the bad-mouthing of Village - these "youth" don't attend high school - what on earth would a 22+ year old be doing in H.S.?

let's get real folks - crime is here and not just centered at one park - however, I do agree with posters here that have said - get involved, get active and TAKE BACK THE PARK - it is not so far gone, I mean really..have you ever gone out of town and seen some other places? It's completely possible AND do-able....just remember to have some youth involved in your clean-up efforts - not ALL youth are bad...

Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of Stoneridge Park
on May 15, 2009 at 12:18 pm

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@ Missy O'Neal: Who am I? I'm a father of a boy that goes to Amador Valley High School and I've lived in the Stoneridge Park neighborhood for about 12 years. Greetings!

@ Sam Moore: Your son wanted a new car to fit in at Foothill? My Junior @ AVHS doesn't even want to practice for his license, much less any kind of car. I got my license as soon as I could, and was happy with a 15 year old Chevy Nova. Different priorities I guess.

@ Appalled: I believe in the "American Way". I'm happy as heck that I live in America and vote in every election. I just don't like the term "innocent". I don't think anybody is innocent...well maybe, but that's another discussion.

@ Einstein: Definition of "Cholo":
cho⋅lo  /ˈtʃoʊloʊ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [choh-loh]
–noun, plural -los. Chiefly Southwestern U.S. 1. (esp. among Mexican-Americans) a teenage boy who is a member of a street gang.
2. Disparaging. a Mexican or Mexican-American.
3. a mestizo of Spanish America.

Posted by James, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 15, 2009 at 3:50 pm

wll AVHS Dad, happily for the rest of us the framers of the constitution and the bill of rights felt that innocent until proven guilty meant just that.

Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of Stoneridge Park
on May 15, 2009 at 4:48 pm

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@ James: Funny, I can't find the word "innocent" in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
What does say?
in⋅no⋅cent  /ˈɪnəsənt/ [in-uh-suhnt]
1. free from moral wrong; without sin; pure: innocent children.
2. free from legal or specific wrong; guiltless: innocent of the crime.
3. not involving evil intent or motive: an innocent misrepresentation.
4. not causing physical or moral injury; harmless: innocent fun.
5. devoid (usually fol. by of): a law innocent of merit.
6. having or showing the simplicity or naiveté of an unworldly person; guileless; ingenuous.
7. uninformed or unaware; ignorant.
Not guilty, okay. Innocent, no.
Hey, this is fun!

Posted by Mike, a resident of Highland Oaks
on May 15, 2009 at 6:27 pm

Let the PPD handle the problem with an increased presence.

I wonder if committing potential Parcel Tax revenue to enhancing the PPD might not be more effective than using it to fund PUSD pay raises.

Posted by Born and Raised Here, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 16, 2009 at 9:16 am

I'm in my 30's and grew up here in Pleasanton. I went to Amador and had a few friends drop out or get kicked out and then go to Village. Out of those maybe 10 people 2 are dead before 35 in criminal situations, one is in Oregon State Pen. I understand the need for Village but we all use to laugh about how you literally got credits for attendance. Anyway my real point is that..
1. To grow up in Pleasanton with every advantage in the world, (compared to say India, Iraq, Congo, etc.) it takes a real problemed teen to end up in Village or not graduate. The kids at Foothill and Amador are not all angels and it's just not that hard to drink, do drugs, barely ever do homework, get in fights and get a diploma.
2. These kids often have major drug problems (I know that because unlike almost all PW readers I grew up here).
3. It's often not the kids fault and is more about parenting.
4. If it's not the parents fault you then have an organically bad kid. This is much worse than bad parenting because it's harder to fix a bad egg than give a poorly parented kid the proper direction.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on May 16, 2009 at 3:58 pm

Criminal youth are a reality. They live all over the US. Some may be addicted to alcohol and drugs but not all of them.

It is a major piece of work raising youth in the US. I don't care much about the cause of the "bad" behavior. I'm more focused on the harm that individuals/communities suffer when citizens violate our laws, get busted and then pull the troubled kid/bad parenting card. My heart breaks for you creeps....wah, wah, wah...

Sorry, it doesn't fly with me. If a "bad" youth with terrible parents comitts a crime, then I'm delighted that they do the time. To bad bozo's.

If you can't live in a community and respect the rights of other citizens, then get lost. Adios...

Posted by fairlands9, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 17, 2009 at 9:24 pm

I just want to say that these boys criminal pasts are not their parents fault. Barlow and castillo's parents are and always have been very involved in their lives. Both boys have siblings that turned out really well. So do not blame the parents. Why dont you people go to the court house when they next have court and look at their families. They are all normal families that are sad for that has happened and are just trying to make it through this nightmare.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2009 at 1:12 pm

I''m not interested in going to court to gawk at a bunch of young criminals...sorry.

Posted by Purvis, a resident of Downtown
on May 21, 2009 at 1:17 pm


how come you don't show the same level of love for the two guys who were doing nothing and were stopped and beat up? I bet they come from nice families also.........geez give me a break!!! Send them to prison and let them become some bad guys boyfriend.

Posted by Born and Raised Here, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 21, 2009 at 7:43 pm

I never blamed the parents, and I don't think most do automatically. It's either a 'bad egg' for a lack of a simpler name, or the parents. 50%-50% at best here in Pleasanton? Maybe, but that's being really easy on the parents I think. Anyway, does any of this matter once the crime has been committed?

Posted by Member, a resident of Mohr Park
on May 8, 2012 at 11:34 pm

I know it had been a long time but I knew all 3 of these young men personally and the crime they committed was terrible. They were all on a one way track to prison out death. I know for a fact after they served the sentence they were give castillo and miols changed their lives around. I lost contact with barlow. Castillo got clean from all drugs and lives a life more any parent would be proud of. Even the parole officers and a judge said they have never sign some make such progress. Just because they made some horrible choices and mistakes and hurt someone who should never have to go through something like that doesn't make them bad people who can't change. With the right support and help castillo has become an adult who takes full responsibility for his actions and regrets his choices. He had amazing parents who did their best and were embarrassed and ashamed of what he did. Out is not right to blame the parenting or village. I also attended village and because of the teachers yelling me there I graduated early and I am now going to college to receive my masters. Before people start top judge they need to know people can change in a positive way

Posted by Member, a resident of Mohr Park
on May 8, 2012 at 11:36 pm

Sorry for the typos I entered this from my phone

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