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PUSD employees are entitled to $15 million in S&C increases

Original post made by Tony E on Apr 29, 2009

The PUSD employees are entitled to their S&C increases. The district is contractually obligated to honor this commitment. This is no different than the government honoring the contractual obligations of AIG to pay out bonuses after receiving tax payer money.

The total dollar amount of these obligations is $15 million dollars.

For more information please visit Web Link at www.pleasantonparceltaxinfo.com

Thanks




Tony

Comments (26)

Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:18 pm

Its nice to see that you admit that the proposed property tax increase is for PUSD EMPLOYEE RAISES while all this time I thought it was "for the kids". The card I got in the mail today from yes-g had pictures of kids on it, but now by you own admission I think you need to re-do with pictures of teachers in rags standing next to their beat-up Volvos.
Nobody is entitled, all contracts can be renegotiated and your AIG comparison is laughable.


Posted by Nice Try, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:45 pm

I don't think that this post actually came from Tony E becuase since he began posting its been usually only once a night and this post does not have the 'REGISTERED USER' tag in bold print on it.
Now he could have forgotten to log-in, but I dont think so...maybe there could be two Tony E in the same neighborhood, nah. I think Stacey knows all about this kind of stuff.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:52 pm

Nice Try---you're right. I don't think that the real Tony E would include a web link to the No-G website. Anyway, I still stand by my comment.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:55 pm

Ha ha, I think you all are right, I don't think this post is from the real Tony E. It will be interesting to see if the real Tony E. actually posts a response to a thread though.


Posted by Ann Martin, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Apr 30, 2009 at 8:03 am

I don't this posting is from the real Tony E. either. When you're a registered user, your email address and your posting name are linked and the comment that you're a registered user automatically shows up on your postings.
The hijacking of other people's posting names has been a problem for others. Good catch by those sharp eyed people who caught the omission of the registered user line!


Posted by Ann Martin, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Apr 30, 2009 at 8:04 am

Well, now I'm confused. I just checked my post, and the registered user line didn't come up.
In any case, I still agree that the original posting was not by the real Tony E.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 30, 2009 at 8:44 am

That's interesting about your registered log not showing either. But the real clincher is that the real Tony E who is Pro-G would not provide a link to the No-G website.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:07 am

Ann Martin- I looked at a number (not all) of your comments on other posts and you never show-up as "registered". Maybe they kicked you out?


Posted by Ann Martin, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:33 am

Thanks for checking Joe...I'll have to see what's going on. It was certainly my intent to be registered, especially because I use my full name, and I know there are other Ann Martins in Pleasanton.
Have a great day.


Posted by Rio, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2009 at 11:31 am

How sad that someone would feel desperate enough to undertake this type of action.

Here is my post from a different thread:

The $15M is based on an assumption that the current contract, with the current increases, would be in effect over the next 4 years.

It is my understanding that the current contract expires next year (12 month from now ). At that time, the contract and all raises will need to re-negotiated between the district and the teacher's union for the following 3 year contract period (school years 2010/2011, 2011/2012, and 2012/2013).

There will be a tremendous amount of pressure on the teacher's union to change the terms of the contract given the state of the economy.

Posting that there are $15M in raises coming over the next 4 years is misleading as there is no contract supporting these numbers for step and column raises for 3 of the 4 years comprising the $15M number at this time.

Additionally, Measure G will expire at the end of the 4 years. In order for it to continue beyond four years, there will need to be an additional campaign as well as another 2/3 majority 'yes' vote at that time.

The hope is that four years from now, the national and state economies will have recovered to the point that Measure G will no longer be necessary.

We can start this process by changing who we vote into office in the upcoming election cycles.

In the mean time, there will be stable funding for the specific programs identified in the Measure G language.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 30, 2009 at 11:56 am

Stacey is a registered user.

I'm glad the PW added the "is a registered user" in bold for those of us who are logged in. I encourage everyone to register. You don't even have to use your real name or email address. That's not the point, of course, but to protect your online identity.

Rio wrote: "Posting that there are $15M in raises coming over the next 4 years is misleading as there is no contract supporting these numbers for step and column raises for 3 of the 4 years comprising the $15M number at this time."

As I understand, that number was confirmed by PUSD. Also, contracts can be re-opened before they expire (if not then APT wouldn't be able to offer the two-day concession. If there's something in the current contract that prevents re-opening, then that's yet another example of poor management, negotiating away that ability.


Posted by Rio, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2009 at 2:00 pm

"As I understand, that number was confirmed by PUSD."

How can they confirm a number on a contract that hasn't even been negotiated yet?!?

This does not make sense in any way, shape or form.

Unless you have this in writing form PUSD, I would call this information purely 'speculative' and treat it as such.


Posted by Rio, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2009 at 2:01 pm

And, yes, I am a registered user but I do not know why my registration is not coming up next to my posts. Will contact the PW to determine why.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 30, 2009 at 2:38 pm

Rio - Even if what you are claiming is true, there is no reason S&C increases shouldn't be frozen for the time being. It is insulting that the district is claiming there is a shortage of funds available to our children's programs, but has every intention of paying out salary increases. This is wrong. The economy is down, people are losing bonuses, losing salary increases, taking pay cuts, and even worse losing their jobs.

I want to support out schools, but the district's hesitation to even approach the table to discuss S&C freezes before proposing a tax increase is reprehensible.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 30, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Call the district and ask yourself. Don't trust my word for it. They're the ones who have been reporting that S&C causes their budget to increase by roughly $1.5MM every year. It's on their website even.


Posted by frank, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 30, 2009 at 8:42 pm

For Rio, does it make any sense to you, in any way, shape or form, that S&C's will be eliminated when the teacher's union negotiates the next contract one year from now? This question is especially pertinent given that management (Casey) sides with them. He's cut from the same cloth and is already overpaid because he plays the game well.

The extortion continues. Cut favorite programs (not teacher's S&C's) to scare the taxpayers into kicking in more money. This has got to stop!


Posted by Russell, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:06 pm

" information purely 'speculative' and treat it as such. "

Rio, there is plenty of speculation going on here.


Posted by frank, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:28 pm

This is from the PUSD web site. No speculation, in any way, shape or form! The only speculation is Rio's imagination that next year's contract won't have S&C in it!


Why does it cost the District more to operate each year?
Historically and contractually, teachers move along a salary schedule based on years of experience and units of continuing education. Credit for years of experience (up to 20) allows an employee to "move down" the schedule (step). Every 15 units of continuing education (up to 75) allow an employee to move across the schedule (column). The increase in salary from one step or column to the next varies from 0% to about 3%. The current salary schedule goes from $60,371 (Step 1, Column 1) to $98,045 (Step 20, Column 5). For classified and management employees, there is a salary schedule that provides a 2% increase for years of experience up to 6 years. The Superintendent is not on a salary schedule. His salary is determined by a contract with the Board. The year-to-year increased cost due to this movement on the salary schedule is about $1.5 million. The District must budget an additional $500,000 annually to cover increases in cost for utilities, insurance, supplies and equipment, and other contracted services. Consequently, if there is no additional money provided by the state, the District must make $2 million in reductions from current levels to provide a balanced budget for the following year.


Posted by frank, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:32 pm

Oh, by the way. The math. $1.5MM incremental over 4 years is $15 MM aggregated extra money... most of the parcel tax money. No speculation there, either.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

From PUSD's website: "if there is no additional money provided by the state"

To me that says that the COLA money from the State is supposed to primarily go towards these increased costs to the District (i.e., step and column). Anything left over can be used on negotiated COLA raises to employees and hopefully a bit in the reserves too. When Kathleen R. talks about unsustainable raises, this is what she means.


Posted by frank, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 30, 2009 at 9:43 pm

The part I hate most is:

"Consequently, if there is no additional money provided by the state, the District must make $2 million in reductions from current levels to provide a balanced budget for the following year."

What this says is they MUST put children second over teacher's union mandated S&C because that's what PUSD management and your Board of Trustees agreed to.

Why don't we just get rid of the BOT and management and do things in with priority that makes sense?

It is almost beyond me to understand why Pleasanton voters are sucked in by this scam. Those in power simply use the children as pawns to keep the good times rolling, even when the parents are suffering economic decline.


Posted by Tony E., a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 30, 2009 at 11:02 pm

Tony E. is a registered user.

Would the real Tony E please stand up? Obviously, this topic was not written by myself - sigh. Again, I respect the perspective of those posting both in support, and opposed to, Measure G. Please extend to me the same respect.

Stacey, I thank you for your courtesy.

Thanks all

Tony


Posted by Practical Parent, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 1, 2009 at 12:43 am

Frank, I absolutely agree with you! The only thing I want to point out is that it is not just the parents who are suffering economic decline---it is nearly everyone in the community! And ALL property owners, whether parents of school children or not, will have to pay this tax (yes, TAX, not investment) should Measure G pass!!!

To Rio, you state that next year in negotiations, "There will be a tremendous amount of pressure on the teacher's union to change the terms of the contract given the state of the economy."
I cannot vote for this parcel tax for that reason. Once they have that extra pot of money, the pressure is off for reform of any sort. And reform is needed in PUSD as well as at the state level.


Posted by question, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 1, 2009 at 1:50 pm

Can someone tell me who is responsible for the web site linked from the original poster? I saw one guest letter with Steve B's name....but just wonder if there is a group backing the site - or an individual's site?



No hidden agenda here!! Just wondering since I hadn't seen any 'official' opposition web site before.

thanks


Posted by question, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 1, 2009 at 1:54 pm

P.S. The reason I ask my question above is that the original poster obviously attempted to use the 'real' Tony E's 'signature'... so I tend to wonder a bit about motives in this case.


Posted by Speak for yourself, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 1, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Tony E or whoever the OP is...

Speak for yourself as to whethere they "deserve" this money...

AIG execs "deserved" their bonuses based on their contracts, too.

Feel free to give the money that you think the district manages so well and let us know when you do! I'm sure they take personal checks.


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