SRV stuns Falcons in soccer loss Schools & Kids, posted by Editor, Pleasanton Weekly Online, on Mar 4, 2009 at 2:10 pm
In a stunning upset, the Foothill girls varsity soccer team's Cinderella season ended Saturday night. Foothill coach Ron Lambert said while he's proud of his team's accomplishments, he can't shake the feeling from Saturday's game that they got robbed.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 1:11 PM
Posted by Foothill parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 2:10 pm
This story is almost four days old. I'm sorry for the loss, I wish we had won, but we didn't. I think the refereeing was questionable, but it's over. The booing of the referees was reprehensible, showing that we cannot lose with pride. I hope we can do better next time in our sportsmanship.
Posted by June, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Ghetto Resident- Why are they reporting it days after? This happens a lot on here. Is the Editor sleeping? I thought it was a newspaper! The town forum is instantaneous so it should be reported a bit quicker. This is just a local team story, but 'real news' is also very slow at showing up on here, unless of course a resident posts it.
Posted by Ghetto Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I don't know why it takes them a few days to report, I don't work for them, I was just stating they are reporting on a local school....if you don't want to read about it, then skip over the article, don't be critical because they are keeping tabs the best they can on a local team. Sheesh! Again, if you don't want to read about it SKIP it.
Posted by Foothill parent, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Mar 4, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Ghetto Resident: My issue is not so much with the tardiness, but it makes it seem as if Lambert and everyone else has sour grapes over the whole thing. If it wasn't such a controversial game, then report it whenever you want. But if you look in the Town Hall thread, then you will see people still upset, people who want to review the game by tape for errors on the part of the referees.
This was news on Saturday night, I was looking on Sunday for the PW to report on this, but they didn't do it. The Times had an article on Sunday and another on Monday, but not a word since. My issue isn't the delay in the reporting, my issue is the failure to drop the controversy surrounding the game. A four-day old article will not help anyone to move on.
Posted by Ghetto Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Foothill Parent -
I am not sure that they are sour grapes as much as they feel that in the last two NCS games they have had winning goals taken away from them and then after review of video they see that they were clean goals. Give the team some credit, last year and this year the coaches and players did not protest on the field, they stood up and congratulated the winners. They had just been in the heat of a passionate game with a lot of emotion riding on it, they picked themselves up after quite frankly out playing San Ramon and congratulated San Ramon, in fact the San Ramon coach gave kudos to a few of the girls for personally walking up to some of his players and congratulating them after such a heart breaking loss. This was the last high school game for most all of that team, so I am sure there were a lot of feelings on that field. So sour grapes, or just heart broken, and trying to figure out maybe what they could have done differently on the field, you decide. I lean on the side of heart broken. Remember, you can't always get a feel of someones actual comments unless you hear them come out of their mouth, paper, print does not come with emotion. So until you have walked in their shoes don't judge them.
Posted by Foothill parent, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Mar 4, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Ghetto Resident: You really need to read my postings more thouroughly. Never once did I rip the girls or Lambert. My issues are with the parents booing the refs (and the poor sportsmanship it shows), and the PW taking what I beleive is a dead issue and reporting on it four days later. I never said the players "protested on the field," I never said they didn't "quite frankly out-play San Ramon" (FHS outplayed SRV big-time). My issues have nothing to do with the girls, they played their tails off, they gave us quite a show, and the score at the end doesn't really show the reality.
Posted by Sylvester, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Foothill parent: You obviously have no emotional connection to the girls on the team, and you didn't have to feel their pain as each one of them fell to the ground sobbing because of the injustice that had just been served to them. People deal with pain differently, if it makes them feel better to "Boo" then so be it. The refs deserved it, they should be told what a crappy job they did, and maybe they will do better next time (if there is a next time). The next step for most of these girls is college - do you think there is boo-ing in college? Fans are relentless, toughen up or get out of competitive sports! I can't believe I actually got caught up in reading these blogs, it's a waste of time and emotion.
Posted by Crazy, a resident of the Vineyard Avenue neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 6:29 pm
It is pretty sad for you to come on this blog and drag a coach through the mud when you don't even know what really happened. Congrats to SRV on the tough win it is to bad that it had to come down to some calls but the FHS girls had chances. Kudos to them on the great season and best of luck in college. Next time you come on here don't be a tough guy and throw someone else under the bus you dont even know. Grow up or Grow some you know what and post your name and say comments. Congrats FHS GIRLS on the great season and best of luck in college and best of luck Coach Lambert next year.
Posted by Foothill parent, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Mar 4, 2009 at 6:38 pm
To Sylvester: I have an emotional connection to more girls on the team than anyone I know, so please don't tell me I don't. The girls can feel any pain they want, whether it was the pain of defeat, of injustice, whatever. But as parents, our job is to show that we are not bitter towards anyone of injustices we may feel, that we are bigger and better than to lower ourselves to that level. Maybe it would make someone feel better to throw a punch at one of the refs, would you comment to that be "so be it" as well? Booing the refs after the game is over does no good to anyone.
Posted by Ghetto Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Ceasar - WOW verbally going after the coach because he answered a reporters questions. I am sure he is in no mood to talk to reporters, but does so because he know it is the right thing to do.
Foothill Parent - I think you need to read your posts as well, you said that "Lambert and everyone else has sour grapes over the whole thing". I never said you ripped them. I just said I don't think it is sour grapes, just heartbreak. I was using the protest on the field as an example of how the coaches and players have been classy and respectful by not doing those things. I think it is okay for them to be upset and disappointed, if they weren't I would say they should get out of competitive sports. They are all competitors and are upset, I am sure they feel they were given the raw end of the deal and all those things are OK - They have shown great class and in my book are #1!!!!
Do I believe everyone needs to move on? YES...Nothing will change, not the score, not the hurt, not the mean things that people will say, I am sure these girls and coaches can take the positive, uplifing things that people have said and keep that as their memory along with their FANTASTIC record.
Posted by Foothill parent, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Mar 4, 2009 at 8:54 pm
To Ghetto Resident: Please don't take my quotes out of context. I was speaking about the article, and how "it makes it seem as if Lambert and everyone else has sour grapes over the whole thing." I agree with you, he was just answeing a question, but quoted four days later it makes it seem as if he is still barking about it. I think Lambert has shown a lot of class, actually.
Posted by Ex Rager, a resident of the Golden Eagle neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Lambert did well in what he said. I dont know if everyone here has played soccer for pleasanton but if you havent then you really cant relate. Sorry to break it to some of you but in this town soccer is not a sport, it's a way of life. Having played for over 15 years I can tell you that this game gets intense and hearts get broken right along with bones. Congrats girls on getting as far as you did. Just remember life goes on! :)
Posted by Hill Billy, a resident of Dublin, on Mar 5, 2009 at 12:05 am
Here in Dublin, we put two L's in "spell." We watch you rich guys drive by with your "chauffeurs." We admire a good "mathematician." And we mow our own yards, but if we needed help we might look for a good "gardener."
Of the seven-letter words attempted, 50% were spelled correctly. Even in Dublin schools, that is an F. Your posts are the strongest case yet for Pleasanton's need to pass that parcel tax!
Posted by Coach, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2009 at 9:32 am
To the comments that the story from the PW appears to be late, remember, the PW is a weekly newspaper, distributed on Fridays. The PW, like every other paper in this country, is going through a massive reorganization, so, I would relax and back off the suggestion that they are purposely delaying printing/posting the story. In a tough economy, we may have to adjust our desire for instant or near instant access to news and information.
To the comments about referees. These referees are not professionals. They are people that live in and around this community that provide a valuable service for very little monetary compensation. Are mistakes made – yes, of course. As long as you are dealing with humans, mistakes will always be a part of the mix.
The student-athletes are not performing for your enjoyment. They are not professional entertainers.
There are opportunities for life lessons in front of all of us, every day. Remember, your children learn most from what you, the parents, teach them.
Posted by mac, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2009 at 10:59 am
Laughing Out Loud - your 'typical' attack on Foothill parents is old news. Get a grip. Tis you and your neighbors who try to wheel and deal your kids way to victories in school and sports. Like a business. Okay, not all of you. But definitely YOU!
Shaddup will ya? And go take a good long look in the mirror!
Posted by mac, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2009 at 11:01 am
HillBilly from Dublin -
A Golden Touche' to you, my friend! You make me smile.
No one has the courtesy or tack to keep their comments to themselves rather than take down some other group. So, like my post above shows...I've joined in. Do I feel better? I suppose so. In the end...nope. But someone has to show the insanity of poor manners and blabbering lips.
Posted by :), a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Another wonderful discussion by the "great" people of Pleasanton (sarcasm). Be proud of what is accomplished and the lessons learned. We often take more from our defeats than from our victories. They are great young ladies with incredible futures. A game is a game, but life's lessons learned from the journey are what stay with us throughout our life. Take it from me, I have been there...
Posted by Oh by the way, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Mar 6, 2009 at 9:48 am
What seems to be lost in all of these discussions is the fact that the "best" referee's normally get assigned to playoff and championship games based on coaches input and section review. Every effort is made to ensure no bias can exist. Did anyone notice that Newark Memorial beat the #2 Basketball team in the State (De LaSalle) the other night? Guess that must have been the refs fault as well. Time to move on Foothill supporters, the sour grapes are getting old.
Posted by trekmtb, a resident of the Heritage Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 6, 2009 at 10:48 pm
OBTW: I'm just saying that although the intent may be to have the best refs at those games, it doesn't always work out that way. Also, I know that in EBAL the coaches don't get to "choose" the refs for their games however they can put a few on a short list that the "don't" want to ref their games. At least in league games, not sure about playoffs.
Posted by A former ref, a resident of the Danbury Park neighborhood, on Mar 7, 2009 at 8:30 am
I used to be a ref, but in a different sport. The best refs are not always chosen.
One year, I wasn't called for a quarterfinal match, but the next day I was called for the semifinal. Either I was good enough for the quarters and the semis, or I was only good enough for quarters. Didn't make sense to me.
Another year I watched my sport's final game, and it was an EBAL team against another league's team. But the refs were from the EBAL's reffing association. That makes no sense, it should be from an outside association, from a third league.
So trust me, I've been there, the best don't always work the playoffs. I know very littl about soccer, though, I have no idea how good or bad this reffing team was.