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We can help the police: If you SEE SOMETHING that "feels funny" SAY SOMETHING. Call the non-emergency number, 931-5100. A citizen who notices something out of the ordinary in their neighborhood -- or anywhere in town that you are familiar with -- gives the police a legal reason to stop and talk to someone.
Many of the crimes in progress that were stopped began with a caring citizen calling Pleasanton PD to report someone or something suspicious.
Don't worry about giving a "false alarm." If the police get a call and it turns out to be nothing, it is just a training opportunity, and creates a statistic that justifies more staffing.
Criminal activity has many sizes, faces, and colors...unless you've forgotten.
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PW Staff: your proofreader must be on vacation again - if you're going to remove posts, remove them as "inappropriate".
Very good advice, Dan.
If you see something suspicious, for example, someone walking into a business establishment with a light antitank weapon or an M-60 machine gun, then alert the police ASAFP. It might be less advisable, however, to alert the police if your suspicions are based on race or fashion because experience tells us that personal prejudice is a very inconsistent predictor of future criminal behavior in others.
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I complained about the G. Zimmerman comment because I don't want people to legitimize random profiling of anyone. What I will say though is that if you decide to look like a gangster because you think it's fashionable, and if you decide to talk in a dialect that is not typical to where you were raised and was not taught to you in the public school system, you will be treated differently from others. Get used to it, or decide that you want to live in harmony with everyone else and be your own unique self within normal society. Look up the word "normal" if you're not happy with my comment. It means being like the "common type". It doesn't mean you have to be a clone. It just means you need to adhere to similar "norms" of conduct. Oh... and spraying people with pepper spray is not adhering to "norms" of conduct.
I spent my early years growing up in a suburb of Chicago and was lucky enough to go to elementary school across the "El" tracks from Northwestern University. I got to grow up with many kids from other countries and backgrounds because their parents were either professors or students at NW. The kids maintained their uniqueness while at the same time befriending other kids at the school, and we welcomed them with opened arms. My best friend in the 3rd grade was from what was then called Rhodesia and named Rhungi Kirawa. We forged a common bond out of common decency and respect for each other because we were respectable and respectful to each other.
Enough of my rant. I don't have anything to say except for the fact that if you want to be treated equally, you're going to have to let everyone know you're an equal. It doesn't mean you have to give up your uniqueness, but it does mean that you're going to need to be a living example of equality. If you look like a thug, you're going to be looked at as a potential thug. It's no different from the "punks" in the 70's who got treated like punks.
Jeff, excellent posting. Thanks for putting things into the proper perspective.
Just what do you mean by saying if you don't conform by forfeiting your language (dialect) and culture (everyone has one) that 'you're going to be treated differently'? What do you mean by that, Jeff?
Are you saying that cultural expressions that don't fit into your Denny's menu of cultural conformity are then justly 'treated differently'? And, again, what do you mean by 'treated differently'? Do you mean being racially profiled, Jeff, because you choose to use a certain social/geographic dialect?
I wonder how you yourself, Jeff, choose to 'treat people differently' because they don't sound like you, or come from another area, or cloth themselves differently than you, or hold values that are not in accord with yours?
Hey Jeff, have you and those who think like you ever tried to listen a little bit harder to someone who speaks differently than you? I can tell you something you probably have never before thought of: It's easier to learn to listen and appreciate the nuances of different social dialects than it is for those who have used them all their lives to give them up so that you won't have to exert yourself on matters of tolerance.
Until old folks like Jeff change, many people from ethnic minority groups or subaltern groups or social class groups will continue to hold on to their own cultural forms of expression because, really, does anyone truly expect them to want to change because Jeff tells them if they don't he and others will 'treat them differently'?
Dear Editor: Because you were obviously unable to tell from above that my name G. Zimmerman is meant as sarcasm, chosen in response to several racist screeds that preceded me, I must state it explicitly. My name, G. Zimmerman, is sarCAStic.
Apparently, though, screeds that are only implicitly (but obviously, nonetheless) racist such as Jeff's are allowed by editors to stand as "appropriate." ... No further comment.
I don't expect anyone to conform to a "Denny's menu" of cultural conformity. What I do expect is for people to become part of a local culture by contributing to it versus being completely counter to it. If you have something positive to contribute, you will be embraced. If you contribute negatively, you're not going to be appreciated. Once again, if you look like a thug, you're going to be treated like a thug.
So, in other words, Jeff is going to decide for us who's contributing positively or negatively to 'his' culture based upon what they look like or sound like. Nothing racist about that point of view. Nothing at all. Nope.
I do hope the editors do not 'disappear' Jeff's remarks. Because they stand as a paragon of how racism expresses itself under a phony veneer of civility.
If you want a great example of how most of the media has an agenda to control the news, and control thought in this country, you have to look no further than the Pleasanton Weekly. Observe how many of the posts to this topic they deleted because they considered them "inappropriate". In reality, what they did was deleted any posts that dealt with a very serious issues in Pleasanton which is the frequent robberies being committed by young blacks. This is a serious issue that needs to be discussed and dealt with. However, the liberal media, of which the Pleasanton Weekly is a part, will not let this topic be discussed. The liberal media just loves hype stories like Trevon Martin (white person killing black person), but will not responsibly cover black people killing black people, or the high percentage of crimes that are committed by black people. This is a major issue for this country, and it is a major issue for Alameda County. But the liberal media, of which the Pleasanton Weekly frequently demonstrates they are a part, is more interested in keeping black people down and keeping them impoverished, so the ruling progressive elitists can achieve dictatorial powers. Jeb, you need to go back to Chicago. They have developed this kind of disenfranchisement, crime, and corruption to a fine art.
Yes, I do urge PW editors to preserve blatantly racist remarks such as those by Klegg as well as those other hateful comments he offers while under cloak of multiple monikers.
It is constructive for readers to read and mull over the cesspool of racial hatred that continues to pollute our community, and how such pollution tends to be wrapped in a 6th-grader's mentality.
Apparently you have some deep-seated hatred towards certain groups of people...in other words "old people like Jeff" and anyone else who has a different opinion that you. I'm not sure what the "racists" posted above but my guess is you don't fully understand the meaning of the word. Were the deleted posts racist? I don't know but the PW does seem to conduct some bizarre censorship but it is their web site and they can do as they wish with it.
My advice to you is to spread your own brand of hatred amongst the other students at the community college. They may find you to be a fascinating intellectual but when you put your thoughts to paper they appear rather lame.
G.Z.-you're the bigot here. Your apparent hatred for white, middle aged or older ADULTS causing you great frustration and anger. You are so typical of the undereducated, low information crowd that is being churned out of public schools these days. You hypocritcally preach tolerance, yet you have none. You throw around the race card like hucksters Sharpton and Jackson, as though that makes for an intellectual comeback. It's the last refuge to the weakminded, to toss that card out whenever things don't go your way......
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