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U.S. Supreme Court leaves intact ruling striking down Prop. 8

Original post made on Jun 26, 2013

After years of debate and legal wrangling between opponents and proponents of same-sex marriage, the U.S. Supreme Court this morning left intact a lower-court ruling that struck down the state's Proposition 8, the voter-approved ban on gay marriage.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 6:48 AM

Comments (30)

Posted by Maybe Justice will Prevail?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 10:06 am

It's about time!


Posted by Lawyer's Motto:, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 10:08 am

"If Justice Prevails, You can always Appeal."


Posted by Mr. Geeneyuss, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 11:15 am

Fantastic! One less social issue that the US Government can use as cannon fodder to separate and legislate the citizenry.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 2:05 pm

A step in the right direction! VIVA America!


Posted by wag the dog, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 2:35 pm

Another convenient distraction from the scandals and real problems plaguing our country. No matter how you try to force people to accept abhorent behavior or degrade traditional marriage, the majority of citizens will continue to dismiss their attempts to gain legitimacy.


Posted by Clare Winthrop, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 26, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Sorry, chump, but the polls disagree with you. Let me inform you: the current year is 2013, not 1930. Get with it, or see a therapist.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 3:54 pm

I thought that the reason that DOMA & Prop 8 were such big issues is that it now means that all Americans will be treated equally under the law.

Making the world a better place is a good deed.


Posted by wag the dog, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:02 pm

Clare, would these be polls like the ones taken right before prop 8 passed? You know, prop 8, where a majority of Californians voted to retain traditional marriage and not to allow same sex marriages? Polls can be rigged, based on the questions asked and the population polled. I guess elections can be rigged as well, if you want to make that argument, but the point is, the will of the voters of our state was just usurped (again) today.
I suppose the only good news in all of this is that if gay couples remain faithful to their married partner, maybe the spread of AIDS will be reduced, or at least keep it under one roof.


Posted by Mini, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:13 pm

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Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:24 pm

Sometimes I forget that so many Americans have so little respect for the US Supreme Court and our system of justice?

The justices make a decision, and there's such an outpouring of ignorant responses?

How come so much silly willy thinking by fellow Americans who are unhappy with today's ruling? That's how the law works. Times change, the laws change...that's a reasonable formula for maintaining a sane society.

VIVA AMERICA! VIVA!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:26 pm

What does it mean to "wag the dog"?


Posted by Clare Winthrop, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:28 pm

People's opinions change, as obviously has been happening for the past several years ... but of course you'd have to judge today's public opinion against yesteryear's.

What the homophobes like 'wag the dog' don't realize is that in matters of human/civil rights, majorities shall not prevail. Majority rule; minority rights. Ring a bell? Hello?

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The Supreme Court -- 5 of them -- were able to cut through the illogical hypotheticals of the homophobic right, albeit we were treated to the rambling hysterics of the gang of 4 old white guys.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:40 pm

The attached web link speaks to what MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of American women, girls & boys live with: Web Link

I agree that such references to engaging in sex with animals is a projection.

IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT DOMA GOT A REASONABLE REVIEW.

VIVA AMERICA! VIVA!

WE LIVE IN A GREAT COUNTRY!




Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:42 pm

Clarence is "white"?


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:46 pm

FYI: Web Link


Posted by clueless clare, a resident of Laguna Vista
on Jun 26, 2013 at 5:21 pm

hilarious that clare thinks clarence thomas and sonia sotomayor are old white guys. did you even read a single article about this issue, let alone know who's on the supreme court? or did you simply raise your hands in victory, joining your liberal "professor" at las positas?

tee hee


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 5:47 pm

While visiting DC a few years ago I saw Justice Thomas. He had on a red and pink pony tail and he actually looked white! I said, JEEPERS CREEPERS!

NOBODY described Justice Sotomayor as an old white guy.

Justice Thomas is married to a woman at this time.





Posted by clueless clare, a resident of Canyon Creek
on Jun 26, 2013 at 7:28 pm

easy there cholo, don't get your mary jane's all up in a bunch. she (clare) made reference to 5 justices voting to overturn prop 8 and the 4 other old white guys. of the 4 with common sense, only two of them are white males.

tee hee


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 26, 2013 at 7:52 pm

I haven't hear the expression re: mary jane's. What does it mean?


Posted by Claire Winthrop, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 26, 2013 at 9:24 pm

Dear clueless clare/mimi

Roberts, Alieto, and Scalia, all white guys, voted in the minority. Thomas, the white guy wannabe, joined them. The three women justices all voted as part of the 5-4 majority.

Can you truly be so dumb? You really do think people like yourselves would want to marry a horse? Or is this simply wishful thinking on your part given your early farmboy experiences?


Posted by clueless clare, a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Jun 26, 2013 at 10:39 pm

you really can't read can you? let me break it down for you:

majority: 1. Chief Justice John Roberts, 2. Antonin Scalia, 3. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 4. Stephen Breyer and 5. Elena Kagan.

minority: 1. Anthony Kennedy,2. Clarence Thomas, 3. Samuel Alito and 4. Sonia Sotomayor.

anymore questions...?


Posted by Julie, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 27, 2013 at 12:01 am

Geez don't you people read before spouting off?!?

Majority included all female justices.

Majority:

1. Kennedy
2. Ginsburg
3. Sotomayor
4. Kagan
5. Breyer


Posted by Claire Winthrop, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 27, 2013 at 6:34 am

Yes, Julie. I chalk it up to an inherent stupidity. Beyond perhaps misreading the results, as "clueless" clearly has, one must wonder how anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have thought Sotomayor would have voted with the old homophobic white men and white man wannabe. Yet, here we have "clueless", day in and day out, spewing his hatred while claiming to know something about the political world. He is actually very funny, an a pathetic kind of way.


Posted by Kimberly S., a resident of Harvest Park Middle School
on Jun 27, 2013 at 8:34 am

It's a social issue that has NO place being legislated by the Federal Government. The simple fact that DOMA did more to deny federal benefits and legal access to same sex couples was bad law from the onset. I've yet to hear a single argument other than the "my God says gays are icky" comment spewing from the mouths of the so-called "Christians" who seem to have more in common with the whackamoles from the Westborough Baptist Church.

Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person. Don't like abortion, cross your legs, slp on a jimmy hat or just don't have one. Don't waste your time trying to impose your vision of morality and ethics on the rest of the populace. I will not be judged in this lifetime but rather in Gods time and I'm pretty comfortable with that.

Peace out P-Town!


Posted by Shame, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 27, 2013 at 9:38 am

A DAY OF SHAME FOR OUR NATION.


Posted by Al, a resident of Parkside
on Jun 27, 2013 at 10:16 am

Clare, thanks for your great comments, I am with you all the way on what you posted. From your first post, it really is sad that five made this happen and four against. I would have liked to have seen perhaps, six or seven for. It only took that one person to make this happen!


Posted by John, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 27, 2013 at 12:17 pm


Just simple good news for the state of California (though the status of Prop 8 in the outcome is vague), and for the nation (DOMA was clear discrimination).

The polls show a shift in favor of marriage equality in California. This went through the courts, but another initiative favoring same-sex marriage would likely have passed. Now that appears unnecessary.

Experience in the 12 states that already legalize same-sex marriage shows that society hasn't collapsed into a smoking heap of rubble. I mean, after all, same-sex marriage is legal in Iowa, of all places!

Now, we can move on to fixing that mistake about the Voting Rights Act


Posted by steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jun 27, 2013 at 2:31 pm

The fact that Holder and obami decried the ruling against the outdated, unenforceable Vote Fixing Act says it all. This is one happy white cracker who is happy the Supremes got one thing right. I'm now considered a minority in this state, it doesn't bother me in the least they overturned this prejudicial law.


Posted by Questionable, a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 27, 2013 at 2:47 pm

Most cases that go to the Supreme Court are Propositions, etc that WE VOTE FOR BY CASTING A VOTE YES OR NO. Then as soon as it is passed - it is appealed.

I wonder why we vote at times. I think any proposition or item on a ballot should be approved by a State Supreme Court or Federal Supreme Court to be correct in the way it is stated so that it cannot be appeal immediately after the polls are closed.

This would save a lot of money and time!


Posted by Answerable, a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Jun 27, 2013 at 3:00 pm

Questionable, have you ever taken a civics class? It might clear up your confusion.


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