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Do AP classes live up to their promise?

Original post made on Apr 30, 2013

Though skeptical of the unequivocal value of Advanced Placement courses, a Stanford University researcher says high schools with well-supported AP programs should not cap or limit the number of AP classes in which students are permitted to enroll.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 6:07 AM

Comments (7)

Posted by Amador Alum, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2013 at 10:16 am

As a former AP student, I can attest to the quality of the coursework in the Pleasanton schools in terms of what *I* got out of it. Is the homework necessary? Quite honestly, if you want to pass, it is-- you will get the same amount of reading assignments in any college level course (granted, college courses only meet twice or three times a week...) If the students can handle the rigor and pass the AP test, I say power to them. That being said, there were plenty of classmates who were either taking these classes because A) the parents "encouraged" them to take 4 AP classes or B) their friends were taking them and they didn't want to be left out. I can't tell you how many times I heard "Eh, a C counts as a B on the regular grading scale, so I'll do the bare minimum and get the C."


Posted by Former Student, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2013 at 11:13 am

I am surprised by the lack of discussion of selection bias in this article. It is well known that students who tend to enroll in AP level courses tend to be the ones who would have been successful at a college level without them. I also think it is rather sad that AP courses are not in fact designed to teach a discipline, but to teach how to pass a specific test based vaguely on that discipline. This is not to say that those in AP classes learn nothing of the subject that they study, but to suggest that an AP course provides the same level of real world application that a college level course does is laughable.


Posted by Out of State Californian, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2013 at 12:48 pm

As Amador Alum mentioned in the entry: " a B counts as an A ". This is an urban myth! It doesn't work for out of CA state university system. A "B counts as a B" and take it on the chin. Too many students in CA (including those in Pleasanton school system) are duped to think they can take AP classes and get an equivalent "A" by doing 'B' work. If any students thinks they can do this when you apply to out of state schools, think twice. Don't be fooled by your H.S. couselors or teachers with the enticement of an 'A' by doing B work. Also, many Private and Out-of-State colleges/universities do to accept AP scores less than a perfect '5' for course credit. Only CA State Schools do that. So, if any students or parents reading this blog, take NOTE! Don't be fooled by the Urban Myth!


Posted by Agree, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2013 at 10:43 pm

Out of State Californian has a point, and also note that the UCs only accept up to 4 AP classes. That means the rest of the classes are counted as regular classes, so after the 4 APs,a B in another AP class is still a B when it comes to computing your GPA


Posted by Mike, a resident of Highland Oaks
on May 2, 2013 at 3:43 pm

Kids in school are like kids with heart conditions: they know their limitations, so you don't have to second-guess what they can and can't handle.

Mike


Posted by Milo Thompson III, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 3, 2013 at 8:24 pm

I graduated with a 8.98 GPA ... it was easy. I had 22 AP classes, flunked half of them and rolled easily into my high GPA after extending my senior year at high school. I am currently taking full advantage of my accomplishments at Los Positas ... (a fanfare of applause from he audience) ... thank you ... thank you very much.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on May 15, 2013 at 10:13 am

well, i can surely understand your point mt...my average was 7.5555.97% and I did quite well...

my advice to anybody that must work is to always promise to give your employer at least a 50% on her/his investment!

it works!


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