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Scuffle over liquor stolen from Pleasanton Safeway store leads to arrest

Original post made on Apr 12, 2013

A battle over a bottle has led to the arrest of a 19-year-old transient in the Safeway parking lot at Santa Rita Road and Valley Avenue.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, April 12, 2013, 7:27 AM

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Posted by annonomous
a resident of Old Towne
on Apr 16, 2013 at 9:17 pm

It does seem like we have had a steady increase in homeless people panhandling and loitering in supermarket parking lots. I think it is a mistake to donate to homeless people.



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Posted by annonomus the second
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 16, 2013 at 9:25 pm

I agree with annonomous. You give the panhandler money and they might use it to buy food for themselves or their kids, or worse, they might buy a big bottle of beer to numb their pain. Let them suffer, that's what my parents taught me. You give them money, they eat food, and the nourishment just allows them to live another day in our community. Best way to exterminate them is to let them starve to death.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

" . . . brandished a knife at the worker . . . "

I certainly hope this young man (very young really) is guided to the help he needs. Tough to suggest that a person brandishing a knife over stolen alcohol would have otherwise used a handout to buy food though.


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Posted by annonomous the second
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2013 at 1:34 am

Yeah, somebody needs to guide this young man to the help he needs. Just don't spend my tax dollars on him, that's all. And, yes, people who steal alcohol at knife point do not eat. And poverty and desperation has nothing to do with it. Tough to suggest this kid is at all human.


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Posted by annonomous the second
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2013 at 7:04 am

But just to be clear.

The alleged offender brandished the knife not to steal a bottle of spirits but because he was being confronted by a Safeway (probably union) worker and thus facing possible arrest.

So, using good ol' tea party logic, it is tough to suggest that the young man would use a handout from anyone to buy food. It is far more likely he'd use it to purchase another knife.

Now, I give to the community till it hurts. You can check the records on that. But my charity ends after the state takes my tax dollars and uses to feather the purses of public workers, oh, and where transients ask me for money. Because I've seen too many transients brandishing pen knives to think they might use my handout for money. The nerve!


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Apr 17, 2013 at 7:34 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Well, I didn't say he used the knife to steal the alcohol. And it is possible everyone's tax dollars will help to save this young man, and it would be a far better use than many others. The person could have walked into Safeway and taken food, but didn't. What would suggest he isn't human?

Handouts are often wasted on non-essentials. At least a knife offers protection if you are living on the streets in fear. You clearly have no idea how I feel about public sector employees.

"use my handout for money" Your clever got a little broken there.


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Posted by annonomous the second
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2013 at 8:08 am

'clever' or 'cleaver'?

'Handouts are often wasted on nonessentials.' Don't know of any studies that would verify that. Must be a special tea party intuition or something. 'Give 'em a dollar and they're going to spend it on a bottle of cheap beer or some other nonessential.'

But let's be clear: If I'm going to give somebody a handout, I want it spelled out in clear language just what that receiver of MY money is going to do with it. Of course, it must pass my own personal judgment, because I know better about things essential or nonessential in that person's life than he/she does.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Apr 17, 2013 at 8:29 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Are you wielding a cleaver?

I found a London study. Most of what I could find indicates if you have money to give, give it to organizations, charities, and shelters that help the homeless. When I gift, I have no expectation of what will be done with it.

I have entirely different expectations when money is taken.


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Posted by Ted Sorenson
a resident of Stoneridge
on Apr 17, 2013 at 11:10 am

Nothing wrong with giving one's money to formal charities. I tend to give a buck or two to a panhandler (when I have it) with no expectation of what will be done with it. Who am I to judge? But I'll help if I can. I guess that doesn't square with those of you above who think they know better.


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