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Time to Get Real On Israel and Mideast

Original post made by By STEVE FORBES, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF , Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Aug 22, 2014

From Forbes Magazine, August 18

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Posted by me!
a resident of another community
on Aug 23, 2014 at 3:39 am


Great article that reveals the truth about Obama's disgraceful hostility toward Israel.


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Posted by Former Supporter
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 7:47 am

Nonsense -- Palestinians are people, too. There's more than enough blame to go around, on both sides. Israel's horrifically, needlessly cruel and disproportionate responses to those impotent, unguided fireworks have worn-out the world's opinion -- including mine, and I used to be a supporter. What they're doing is Not Working -- a cease-fire is a necessary first step.

Time for a wholly new set of Israeli tactics that recognizes the legitimate interests of the 99% of Palestinians.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 9:14 am

What is happening between Israel and Palestine is horrific. Thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent people are being killed. Needlessly.

May there someday be peace.

Lets not ignore the role of Halliburton in keeping this war alive.

If there is such a need to blame somebody for this war, why not Lady Bird Johnson?


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 9:19 am

as i recall, forbes ran for the presidency and L O S T! how sad...


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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 10:50 am

The blame is with Hamas. Israel has the right to defend themselves against Hamas rockets and tunneling in. Hamas then hides behind, or below, civilians and hospitals as they want the Palestinians killed. Hamas does not have a goal of free trade or anything except they have a goal to wipe out Israel and all the jewish people.

A cease-fire will not do anything when Hamas only has a desire to wipe out Israel. Hamas has to be removed somehow. A case fire, as we have seen, just allows Hamas to get more arms and rebuild their tunnels.


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Posted by Former Supporter
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 11:00 am

Terribly simplistic view, I'm afraid, neighbor. You have bought the propaganda line. It is, however, losing with most of the rest of us, and the world.

Remember Begin and Sadat? We need a few of those statesmen now, on Both sides.


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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 11:34 am

simplistic but true. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Even the rest of the Arab world does not want to deal with them. Perhaps the only solution will be for the other Arab countries to somehow take Hamas out of power.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 11:57 am

I disagree with "neighbor". Killing, killing, killing is not a reasonable answer to anything except more killing, killing, killing.

In the relative safety of the USA, it's easy to support more killing.

I do not approve of killing other human being, especially innocent people who are caught in the a situation for which there seems to be few remedies.

It's wrong to kill humans, animals, and plants. Still we do it. sad...


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 12:14 pm

If there's an increase in the American presence in Iraq or in Israel/Palestine conflict(s), who should go? How many troops? Ground troops? How many male/female troops? Race/ethnicity of all ground troops? Should "white" troops be sent first? Yes/no and why? Please explain in detail.

Since anybody can take a bomb or a bullet and drop dead, how does one choose who is killed first? Seniors, handicapped (blind, folks in wheelchairs) incarcerated Americans, single mothers on welfare...hmmmmmmmm?

In my private opinion, "white" folks should be the first to come back in body bags...not Latinos, African Americans, or Asians. Lets not forget Christians? Christians of all ages...no limitations?

i rest my case...fair is fair...


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 12:18 pm

Is Steve Forbes in support of a war? He was a draft dodger, and in the past he has also refused to reveal his Income Tax returns: Web Link


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 12:23 pm

Should there be a war involved American Ground troops, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE PRESIDENT/US CONGRESS INITIATE THE DRAFT.

ALL AMERICAN MALE/FEMALES BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18-65 CAN BE DRAFTED, TRAINED, AND SENT OFF TO FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY! VIVA AMERICA! VIVA!

NOTA BENE: ABSOLUTELY NO DEFERRALS TO STUDENTS, WOMEN, HANDICAPPED, CLERGY, OR ANYBODY BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18-65.

BONDULU! BONDULU! KILL! KILL!


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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 23, 2014 at 1:18 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

Cholo, you boob, no one has ever suggested sending American troops to Israel or Gaza. There have been two cease fires, both violated by Hamas terrorists.
Hamas chose to fight Israel, but they are obviously not very competent as fighters.....but, they seem to be pretty good at being moles, digging tunnels. What a convenient burial site.
Hamas and the Palestinians received millions in aid and used the money to purchase weapons and cement to support their terror tunnels. It's obvious to all but the most anti Semetic zealots that Hamas is only interested in killing and has become adept at garnering support through the media from ignorant bleeding hearts and neo Nazis.
Former supporter and cholo, you are being played by terrorists that use modern means to return Western cultures back to the Middle Ages. Wise up.


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Posted by neightbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 4:03 pm

Cholo, if you feel violence against those who are attacking you is not a solution, what do you suggest? I suggest you fly there and go to the border, hold up your hands and say stop. Then stay in that position until the rockets stop and Hamas surrenders. I am sure there are many people who read this blog who would gladly pay your airfare to get there. Obviously a one-way ticket is all that is needed but more power to you if you can hold your hands up and Hamas stops.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 4:53 pm

neighbor...if you're so well informed, PLEASE cite all of your sources. Also, why not YOU pack a bag and join the war as a FREEDOM FIGHTER FOR ISRAEL!

Unfortunately, nobody I know wants to contribute even 1 cent for your one-way ticket. Surely, you will not come back alive so there's no need for you to have a round-trip ticket!

Have you considered your children and ALL family members moving to Israel, joining the armed services and fighting the waaaay cool fight? ...but wait, do you prefer that Latinos, African Americans, and Asians fight the war that you feel so righteous about? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...?

My plan for you and all of your familyis that you go to East Oakland, East Los, Watts, and where there are lots of people of color and convince them that it's way cooool for them to die for you and your family. Promise them that when they get killed, some of them can even be granted US citizenship and be bured all along our southern US border. cool or what?

You can also raise up your arms to indicate something to somebody and they can shoot you...just like the kid in Missouri! cool or what?


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 4:56 pm

Correction: buried instead of "bured" all along our southern US border. cool or what?


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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 5:07 pm

Cholo, WTF? Time to take your medications.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2014 at 5:30 pm

No meds here! WTF...you move to Israel, join the armed services, take all of your Zionist family, and fight the fight for Israel...bondulul bondulu...kill kill kill!

You obviously have never fought in a war in which hundreds of thousands of innocent humans beings are casualties. In other words, the poor and innocents end up as DEAD AS DORKS!

Now tell us all, how many in your immediate family
are ready and willing to die in a war? Lay down their lives for Israel? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...?

I bet the number = 0! B U S T E D!

i rest my case...WTF


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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 23, 2014 at 5:41 pm

I have lost a lot of my family in the holocaust. The extermination of jews that Hitler was doing is no different than what Hamas wants.

And I do have family members who are laying their life down for Israel (in the Israeli services).

I thought you were a harmless lonely person from your posts but now I see you are dangerous and a racist. I hope the police get to you before you hurt somebody.


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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Aug 23, 2014 at 6:46 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

It's finally time that cholo was collected by our local authorities and warehoused somewhere away from the rest of society. If it wasn't obvious before, his rant above citing Zionists and his mocking Israelis as killers, surely confirms his little choo choo has gone around the bend. So sad.....hopefully it's not the onset of dementia and he's just your garden variety anti Semite.


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Posted by Evan
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm

Thanks for your poignant remarks, Cholo. WTF's only response is to lie and claim you are imbalanced, and this while you dance circles around him. I think we know who's the imbalanced one. Nicely played!


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2014 at 9:36 am

NOT all Jews are ZIONISTS.

Many Jews who were completely innocent in Argentina were murdered/disappeared during the Bloody War. General Videla was demonic and his bud Pope Francis turned over dissidents to him to be tortured/disappeared.

You are playing the sympathy card and encourage the killing of innocent fellow human beings in the present conflict between Israel and non-combatant Palestinians.

I strongly recommend that hostile "neighbor" move to Israel, sign up for battle and duke it out! It's one thing to run off at the mouth like a typical Zionist and another thing to understand what is happening and to seek a peaceful solution...however temporary. Put down you dukes.

Do you really believe in a full-on-war or do you secretly prefer to watch the 6 o'clock news, munch on cheeze-its and run off at the mouth? fess up!

ps Don't be surprised if people of color don't understand you secret intention that they fight the good fight fight for you.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2014 at 9:41 am

Correction: Don't be surprised to learn that people of color understand your secret intention to support a full-on-war fought by large numbers of people of color.

We are becoming more educated and prefer a more peaceful world.

can we all get along...


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Posted by Former Supporter
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 24, 2014 at 11:08 am

300 holocaust survivors denounce Israeli actions in Gaza.

Web Link


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Posted by john
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 24, 2014 at 11:39 am

I don't really care much what happens to Israelis or Palestinians. Too bad children are being killed, injured, or displaced from their homes. It is happening in other parts of the world too. This gets too much attention.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2014 at 11:43 am

I will never forget this image of Eli Weisel as a younger man in a concentration camp. It's heart-breaking to view this photo of one of my greatest heroes: Web Link

Likewise re: Jacobo (Jacob) Timmerman, a Jew who immigrated from the former Soviet Union to Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Weisel and Timmerman, two great Jewish men.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2014 at 12:01 pm

Jacobo Timmerman: Web Link

Sorry, I forgot to post this in the above entry.

VIVA JACOBO TIMMERMAN! VIVA!


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