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Teacher dismissal bill heads to governor

Original post made on Jun 15, 2014

A bill that would reform the dismissal appeal process for certificated employees is being sent to Governor Jerry Brown for his signature after being passed unanimously by the State Assembly on Thursday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, June 15, 2014, 6:32 AM

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Posted by guest
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 15, 2014 at 8:55 am

This is going to be fun. People aren't going to know what vitriol to post. "Ha! Let's get those horrible, abusive, lazy, selfish, rotten teaches! It's about time that there be legislation passed that...wait...what? It's supported by who? It's backed by CTA, CFT and CLF?!? But those are UNIONS! Well then, it must be horrible legislation! I'm sure Governor Moonbeam is going to pass it right on through! We have to rise up and fight to...uh...wait...am I for or against this?"




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Posted by cosmic-charlie
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 15, 2014 at 9:10 am

Guest...an excellent post and very clever
Well Done!


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 15, 2014 at 9:58 am

I heard Jerry Brown speak while between gigs as Mayor and Governor. He said the key to fixing the schools was holding the principals accountable, and giving them the power to fire bad teachers. I don't know if this legislation is written to that end, but yes, I'd expect him to sign it...


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Posted by Registered Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 15, 2014 at 2:12 pm

Please don't confuse this bill with the court finding this past week concerning the tenure process and subsequent firing of teachers. This bill, which by itself is a step in the right direction, makes it easier to fire teachers accused of misconduct that relates to schools and kids - abuse, drugs, sex. The fact that is was difficult and expensive for a school district to fire a teacher convicted of these types of crimes was a crime in itself.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 15, 2014 at 3:18 pm

"In all things, seek the mean"

Aristotle


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Posted by Nonregistered Hank
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 15, 2014 at 3:21 pm

Yes, Registered Joe, we certainly don't want to give teachers the right to a presumption of innocence until (if) found guilty. How American THAT would be.

And, yes, let's not confuse this with the joke of a ruling of a few days ago which will be promptly overturned by a rational court.


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Posted by Another Joe
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Jun 15, 2014 at 9:02 pm

AB 215 is too little, too late.

All the racist laws masquerading as "teacher due process protection" have been thrown out in "Vergara v California". The ruling will be upheld by all state and federal courts for the same reason that Brown v Board of Education will never be overturned.


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Posted by Registered Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 15, 2014 at 10:38 pm

A teacher accused of one of the crimes handled by this bill still has to go through the criminal courts. This bill enables a school district to fire the teacher sooner, and places the responsibility for that firing decision into the hands of an administrative law judge. The process completes in seven months, vs. the years that it can take now.

One of the loopholes that AB215 closes is the ability of a school district to strike a deal with a teacher which expunges the record after some period
of time. The teacher could go on to a different, unsuspecting district.

The court that made the decision in the teacher tenure case also, at the same time, held up its implementation until the state attorney general can decide whether or not to appeal. Don't lose sight of what an appeal means. An appeal is made when a party to the case believes that the issuing court made a judicial error. You can appeal any decision, but can't successfully appeal unless an error is found. You can't do it and expect to win just because you don't like the decision.


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Posted by Another Joe
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Jun 16, 2014 at 6:43 am

Here are the closing arguments of the Vergara case, there really wasn't much of a defense. If they couldn't defend racist tenure laws then, they won't defend it now.

Web Link


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 17, 2014 at 4:11 pm

I agree with registered Joe. I like the thought of a administrative law judge ruling on the termination based on the evidence presented at the administrative law judge hearing. The key is, the terminating supervisor/manager must present the case and the evidence. These days in regular employment termination cases, the defendant appeals the termination which goes to the administrative law judge hearing. Often, the terminating supervisor/manager does not show up at the hearing and the defendant wins by default.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 17, 2014 at 7:44 pm

I agree that an Administrative Law Judge would be an excellent way to manage cases.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Administrative Law Judge: Web Link


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