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Drinking in the Park

Original post made by HA on May 30, 2014

Lawns in the parks are Green and drinking in the park on friday night is ok. WHY,WHY,WHY????

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Posted by Dan, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2014 at 7:06 am

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Posted by get some manners, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 1, 2014 at 9:39 am

Not sure what you are talking about as the parks around town are getting brown -- as they should since all of us are expected to let our lawns die.

Regarding drinking in the park, do you refer to the Friday concerts? The drinking at those things has gotten progressively worse. People come early, stay way past the music and then trash the neighborhoods around the park. Keep this in mind if you plan to attend this year. The permit for drinking is during the music ONLY. Not before the music and not after the music. Between 7:00 and 8:30 PM ONLY. You cannot stay in the park past 10:00 PM under any circumstances.

So, if you plan to come to the concerts, get some manners.

1. If you arrive early, limit your drinking.
2. When the music ends LEAVE ALREADY. The park is not your personal back yard where you can continue to drink and allow your screaming kids to run. There are real people who live downtown and you need to show some consideration for them.
3. If you plan to drink then plan to see more cops in the area watching for drunk drivers.
4. When you leave the park either throw your trash in the barrels in the park or take it home with you. The yards of the people living near the park are not your personal garbage dumps. Although you would not know that if you check those yards on Saturday mornings. Filled with YOUR trash.

The concerts are a privilege, not your personal right. If the inconsiderate drunks and those staying late continue to be a problem then expect to see a big push to get the concerts stopped.

Posted by HA, a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 1, 2014 at 11:01 pm

Limit means don't DRINK. The Pleasanton Police won't even patrol that park. Stick around Wednesday and watch how they do circles around streets downtown.

Posted by William Tell, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 2, 2014 at 12:36 am

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Posted by Mary, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jun 2, 2014 at 8:38 am

My family and I go to just about EVERY Concert in the park and I have never seen an issue with drinking.. we are always there until at least 10 and by then NO ONE is still drinking!! The park is also ALWAYS picked up!! it is RARE if I see trash left in the park as we are leaving.. the garbages cans are ALWAYS Full!! Stop your whining and start to enjoy what LITTLE Pleasanton has left for families to do and enjoy!!!

Posted by mrs bob, a resident of Pleasanton Village
on Jun 2, 2014 at 8:45 am

Shame that some people think that some people sitting, meeting up,having SOME drink & finally relaxing & enjoying what Pleasanton has to offer after for some, a very long hard week is all too much if they are still there after 8.30pm. You are tarnishing all with the same brush. Not all are loud, letting children run free & there til late. ..But an hour after with no music would be time to chill & calm down after the excitement of the music. .. also brings money in to local business through dinner before hand or take away pizza & some browse the shops too. In this struggling day & age the local businesses need all the help they can. But people are too quick to get things closed or stopped if it's a inconvenience to them once a week. I live by a park & school & people are out screaming & shouting by 7am even at weekends. As people play sports at weekends, leaving their trash too. EVERY DAY! Then by the end of summer, beginning of fall you hear Amador football games most Fridays till 10pm... so I know what its like to live with noise & trash. Let people enjoy life. ... yes i do agree that they need to consider their surroundings & be respectful. I'm more scared & upset about how we have more & more gun related incidents here. Think the gun laws need to be looked at. Walking into a bank in the morning in Downtown. .. pulling a gun out demanding money. MORNING not some after dark hours like redcoats had to deal with. .. scary. Let alone what's just happened in Santa Barbra... shocking & sickening.

Posted by Daveg, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 2, 2014 at 8:48 am

Daveg is a registered user.

I have to agree with Mary, I also have never seen people drinking to excess, and have not noted excessive trash left behind. The concerts in the park are a great family event. Let's not spoil that also by bad mouthing the event. To me, this is what middle America should look like. People enjoying themselves with friends, listening to good local music.

Posted by get some manners, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 2, 2014 at 8:51 am

@mary -- this year if you plan to be there after 10 then plan on having either the PD or their civilian "officers" come by to clear you out. The concerts end at 8:30 and the park closes at 10. Go home. Yeah the garbage cans are generally full so the slobs who leave after 10 PM just heave their trash into the yards of anyone who lives between the park and their cars.

Pleasanton will not continue to have the concerts unless the people who live here start to show some respect for the rules. Act like a civilized and responsible human being or lose your activities. Either one is fine with me.

Posted by get some manners, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 2, 2014 at 9:17 am

The only reason the park is picked up is that the PDA hires people to do it. I live several blocks away from the concert and have to pick up trash in my yard and need to close all of the windows to shut out the screaming kids. The hell of living on First Street is hard to even imagine.

As for anyone in Pleasanton actually purchasing things from the stores and restaurants -- get real. With the exception of the drive through dairy you would be hard pressed to find one single restaurant that would not rejoice at the closing of the concerts. At some events in Livermore outside food is prohibited unless it has been purchased from a downtown merchant.

Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on Jun 2, 2014 at 9:18 am

mrs. bob - I certainly agree about the guns. If we had stricter gun laws, the bank robbers and criminals who robbed redcoats would have had to use something else for their criminal exploits. And when the police checked up on the mentally ill man in Santa Barbara, they would have really made an effort to check for guns, rather than declaring that he was nice and polite.

Posted by Mary, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jun 2, 2014 at 9:27 am

Get Some Manners, I AM there when the cops are there AT 10! we are not drinking we are packing up WITH our kids and making sure where we have been sitting is all cleaned up. The Police have been extremely nice in EVERY Friday we are there, they do NOT harass people to leave, and at 10 just about everyone is GONE, there have been a few FAMILIES that have stayed later but are not drinking and have talked to the police. Your making this out to be some RAGER!!! It is a FAMILY friendly night that as far as I know nor have seen never gotten out of hand. If YOU do not like it then DO NOT GO! Maybe you should be in bed at 7:30 so you do not have to hear everyone having a good time! Kids laughing and playing, families meeting up enjoying the music and the downtown experience!!

Posted by Bob Parker, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 2, 2014 at 10:33 am

I think Get Some Manners is just a NIMBY.If you do not like the music and the noise sell and relocate to a quieter area. Real Estate market is booming and you will not have any problem selling.I think 10 pm is reasonable time to pack up and finish. 8.30 is too early. If we persist on these type of things we will be left with older retired people living in the city. My son who is 22 lives in SF and refuses to spend time here as it is just too boring and everything closes at 9 pm. Even Livermore downtown is much livelier and entertaining.We are just going to send our tax dollars to other nearby towns.

Posted by Manners Guy, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 2, 2014 at 10:48 am

@ Get some manners.....

Seriously? "The hell of living on First Street is hard to even imagine".

You know what hell is ms. or mr. manners? Hell is having a child with muscular dystrophy. Hell is losing your job in a down market with a huge mortgage payment. Hell is not being to go on vacation with your family because you can't afford it. Hell is losing a family member to a deadly disease.

Hell is NOT having to deal with some noise and "loud children running around". Go move to Utah, or Wyoming if you want to live somewhere quiet with no one around.

BTW ms. or mr. manners...I am pretty sure NONE of the people at these concerts forced you to buy a house on First Street, which anyone who has ever lived in Pleasanton knows, is close to downtown.

Oh vey. Get a life.

Posted by sanity, a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 2, 2014 at 11:35 am

I'm not sure how this turned into a gun debate, but let me ask you this....what makes you think that taking guns away from law abiding citizens will keep them out of the hands of criminals? Since when do criminals obey laws? If criminals know that the public is unarmed (helpless) do you think there would be less crime...or more?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 2, 2014 at 12:11 pm

i prefer the noise of kids more than anything...except for dogs and what they can stir up!

Posted by old guy, a resident of Willow West
on Jun 2, 2014 at 12:27 pm

Mary you are a breath of fresh air. There is so much positive around us and we just need to recognize and enjoy. So nice to hear someone point out the good around us all. Life is just too short to do any less!

Posted by Casual Viewer, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jun 2, 2014 at 3:25 pm

Good afternoon Get Some Manners,

It is very apparent that you have a chip on your shoulder regarding Concerts in the Park. I have been going to the Concerts for many many years and I am one that stays near 10PM. I have never seen this drunken wild crowd that you speak of. What I see are family and friends who get together to enjoy the music and spend a special time with each other. I have seen kids grow-up and bring their kids to the concerts. I see people dancing and grandparents and parents proudly showing off their children and taking that special dance with them as they listen and move to the music. SO here is what I suggest to you, I am sending you an invitation to join us each and every Friday at the Concerts. I am sure that this wall that you present will soon be knocked down as you see the Pleasanton Community come together every Friday night. Yes this is the same Pleasanton Community that opens their arms to the other cities who come to our Concerts because they are treated like family. So get up from your desk and stop hiding behind your computer and come join us. I'll save a spot on our blanket for you and share a great glass of wine. It's your move

Posted by Bill, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm

Maybe the same thing is happening at Wayside Park as happens at the Sports Park during a tournament. During a tournament, especially soccer, not enough trash receptacles were placed alongside the soccer fields. The barrels would become full and people would then place their trash next to the trash barrel. During the night the wind would pick up the trash and carry it towards the residences on the east side of the park. Every year the residents would complain to the park and rec commission and the park and rec commission would yell at the sports clubs to clean up the mess from their tournaments. It only took the park and rec commission 20 years to figure out that 1) if they had more trash receptacles and 2) if the trash was picked up every day then there wouldn't be a problem. The moral of the story is that after an event that generates a lot of trash, the city has to pick up the trash before the winds carry it to residential areas.

Posted by Barbara, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jun 2, 2014 at 5:20 pm

Bill, you're a GENIUS! You just solved the problem.
City of Pleasanton, are you listening?

@get some manners, I urge you to develop some fun hobbies. The only "hell" you're living in is the hell you allow dwell and grow in your own mind. I live right next door to a swimming pool, and I hear people making noise, having fun, all day long, and it makes me happy that they're happy. I hear the Amador games in the fall, and it makes me happy that people are over there having fun. I hear kids running around the common areas where I live and I'm glad they have a safe place to run and play. Who forced you to live next to a downtown where (gasp*) people might gather?

On the other hand, I would not like it if garbage ended up in my yard. And if there were loud drunk people keeping me up at night, I would call the police if they didn't stop on their own. But I sincerely hope you will find ways to have some more fun in your life because you're far too bitter and angry about normal life events.

Posted by Map, a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 3, 2014 at 1:11 pm

Nice going "casual viewer" and "manners guy" took the words right out of my mouth!! Been going to all events downtown forever and have enjoyed everyone of them! Time to move if you don't like living on first street, obviously you moved in after the gravel trucks were banned from using first street as a short cut to 680, now that was noisy!!! Quit complaining and enjoy our downtown or grab that quick resale on anything near downtown pocket the wad of cash and move somewhere nice and peaceful like maybe KANSAS

Posted by HA, a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 4, 2014 at 11:22 pm

Mary can't see the Drunks because she is 3 bottles down. Take away the Booze and see if the Family's will show up. I love to see the kids actually get dirty and play in the creek. Drink up and let kids be kids for once. It's not about the noise it's about the people who are aloud to drink in our town and who we want to keep out. It's far from Family fun night but a great place to drink and have fun. Oh and i love the sound of a cap gun in the summer to start the race.

Posted by get some manners, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 5, 2014 at 9:50 am

@HA -- you make some strange statements. No one has suggested keeping people out. All that I have asked is that people comply with the rules. Don't start drinking mid afternoon, don't keep drinking after the music stops, leave before 10 and stop throwing your trash into the yards of everyone living near the park. @Mary, If you are there long enough for the PD to show up and ask you to leave then you are part of the problem.

Posted by Next to a park, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 5, 2014 at 10:43 am

Just looked at the park in our neighborhood. I have noticed they are watering it a LOT less this year. Looks a bit healthier than ours but still some definite dry spots forming. I think the consistent care the park has received has helped it now. Lots of bees in the bushes bordering the park. Two good things to see.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 5, 2014 at 3:55 pm

I've smelled pot being smoked in the park.

Posted by Daveg, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 5, 2014 at 4:49 pm

Daveg is a registered user.

Wonder if Ms Cholo has ever been to any of the concerts since she supposedly lives in Livermore, and additionally, how does she know what pot smells like!
As many have stated, this is a great family event and all one has to do is to follow common courtesy towards other. Asinine remarks such as Ms Cholo's only degrade a great community event.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 5, 2014 at 4:55 pm

I believe that Americans should have a choice to smoke pot if that's their choice. It's safe and there is no reason to be so angry at anybody that smokes it.

i rest my case...fraidy cats

Posted by Daveg, a resident of Birdland
on Jun 5, 2014 at 5:35 pm

Daveg is a registered user.

Ms Cholo, you are the one that brought up anything about Pot, or did you forget!

Posted by El Loco, a resident of Parkside
on Jun 6, 2014 at 9:22 am

Yes, Madam Daveg pot is good for recreation and medicinal uses. You should try it.

Posted by get some manners, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2014 at 5:33 am

For all of you who say the concert attendees are so VERY well mannered -- why was the park swarming with cops last night, well past 10 PM? According to the PD business line the cops were there to take care of "several" disturbances as there had been "more than a few phone calls to complain about the noise".

Another nail in the coffin of the concerts if you people keep this up. And yes, Mary, I am certain that the police were very polite when asking you to leave. Tell me again the reason that you cannot seem to leave on your own when the park is closed. Apparently, you were not alone last night. Yeah, well behaved my rear end.

Posted by Casual Viewer, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jun 7, 2014 at 12:07 pm

Get some manners, I see that you are at it again. I kept a place for you on our blanket to join us last night but I guess you don't like laughter, families enjoying each other and kids, parents, grandparents dancing to the music. So tell us how many times did you call the Police last night since you seem on this crusade to eliminate Concert's in the Park? Your next target should be the Farmer's Market and then go after the 4th of July celebration held in that same park.

The offer is still there about joining us. However I think the thought of fun may be too much for you to handle. Well we will see how the concerts go next week.

Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2014 at 3:46 pm

"Yes, Madam Daveg pot is good for recreation and medicinal uses. You should try it."

Until you get behind the wheel and kill someone.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jun 7, 2014 at 4:51 pm

simple solution: DON'T drive under the influence of pot...or alcohol...or too much cola...medications that make you waaaaaaaaaaay drowsy...etc. etc. etc...

Multi-millions of Americans have died in auto accidents due to drunk driving.

Posted by get some manners, a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2014 at 6:58 pm

@ CV, thanks but no thanks. I have my own blanket and my own good wine (very good wine actually) and I enjoy the concerts quite a lot. I simply do not understand why a select few of the people who attend feel such a need to stay late and create problems. I called the police number exactly once, due to the shouting from the park that could be heard 3 blocks away, which is where I live. My call was well after 10 PM and well beyond the time that everyone should have been gone.

It may be just a few bad seeds but the fact remains that if those people do not start leaving on time these events will not continue. Yes, we will see how the concerts go next week and each remaining week this summer. If the drunks and late partiers continue as they did last night this could well be the last summer that these concerts go on. Think about that if you are one of those who cannot pack up and leave on time.

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