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Amador Valley High students, parents upset over invalid AP test scores

Original post made on May 30, 2014

Students and parents are frustrated and outraged over College Board's recent decision to invalidate 400 students' Advanced Placement exam scores at Amador Valley High School due to reported "seating irregularities."

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, May 30, 2014, 6:35 PM

Comments (11)

Posted by highdiver, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Hope all the others who posted comments on the other article read this one. It only takes one person to complain to cause a controversy.

Posted by Registered Joe, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2014 at 8:47 pm

I believe it's a procedural error, something any of us could have done. It's a shame that students will need to retake, but a nationally-used firm like ETS is right to demand enforcement of its rules and procedures.

For just a moment, let's assume the worst case, that the rules and procedures weren't followed because of demonstrated incompetence or willful misconduct. A firing offense, in other words. Does everybody understand that for all practical purposes, a teacher can't be fired in this state? Out of 300,000 teachers in California, an average of a dozen or so have been fired per year over the past 20 years. The CA teachers' unions are THAT powerful.

And before you blame the Pleasanton school board and superintendent, realize that their hands are completely and utterly tied by the rules, procedures, and various contracts in place between the schools and its workers.

Posted by Me Too, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2014 at 10:01 pm

Even if it were a firing offense your comment is way off base because no teachers were involved. Teachers are not involved in AP testing for pretty obvious reasons.

Why does everything that happen at a school get turned into a union bashing event?

Posted by pleasanton mom, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2014 at 11:58 pm

AP testing is taken very seriously - students too close and facing each other - not good.

Yes the kids are the victims, but it's the school's administrative office that is at fault. That's why the Principal feels so bad and is accommodating. My son took 4 AP tests at another school and I can't even imagine if he had to take them over again. I feel bad for these students, but if they want to use them for their college transcripts, then they need to be proctored correctly. You can be pretty certain that they'll be having the yard stick out this next time around.

Posted by William Tell, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2014 at 7:02 am

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Posted by cosmic-charlie, a resident of Downtown
on May 31, 2014 at 9:45 am

This in my opinion is a contrived mess!

It's amazing, what are we teaching our kids. They go into the classrooms to take these tests, sit down, keep their feet on the floor, follow instructions and do exactly what they're told! And for what?

The scores should count and these kids should not be required to take this test again. The test takers were not at fault... only the test givers. Those students were there in good faith with no evidence of cheating whatsoever. You parents who have kids affected by this should be completely outraged and the demand that the scores stand! There's no excuse for this... the kids don't deserve to be punished for something that they did in good faith. I am mad as he!!.

Posted by second priority, a resident of Amador Estates
on May 31, 2014 at 11:00 am

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Back to the topic of the AP tests, my guess is that it was not the fault of the unions or the teachers. Just sloppiness and sheer laziness in adherence to the rules. Whomever contracted with the proctors did not do any due diligence in vetting them or overseeing them. And that buck lies with school administration.

Posted by Ptown MOM, a resident of Civic Square
on May 31, 2014 at 11:05 am

Did the principal check the rooms?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on May 31, 2014 at 11:40 am

I believe that the CIA should be called in after such an earth shaking doubt that at least a few students were cheathing.

Posted by in reply to Ptown MOM, a resident of Castlewood
on May 31, 2014 at 11:57 am

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Posted by Nemo Wonderful, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2014 at 9:57 pm

Hello folks. To put this in some perspective, two things: Amador has seen the number of AP tests taken explode over the last decade, and the students have done well on the tests. But the school faces a real problem in having adequate space for tests while still running classes. No doubt people will be upset next year when they move kids 100 at a time into a gym to take a test. As for fighting the ETS, they tried that in Millbrae, including retaining a law firm, and lost. Their kids retook the test in August, but most had already needed to come up with new college class schedules. Finally, while I agree that it's not fair, the lynch-mob attitude and vitriol evidenced in many of these comments is really remarkable. Perhaps we should stop emphasizing tests so much. As for administrators on cell phones, I totally agree that nobody should have cell phones at school, including the students. It shouldn't be tough, since none of the kids are on their phones all the time, right?

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