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Original post made by Keri on Feb 25, 2014

Check it out....

Web Link

While the salaries shown aren't egregious, the 'overtime' and 'other pay' make up hundreds of thousands of dollars, in Pleasanton alone. And people wonder why California has 10 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. Pay attention people!!

Comments (21)

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Feb 25, 2014 at 3:20 pm

I don't find anything alarming re: salaries. Please explain your concern clearly.

It's my impression that "Keri" is an alarmist.

Posted by Keri, a resident of Birdland
on Feb 25, 2014 at 7:45 pm

Cholo - How can I be an alarmist if I'm simply pointing out the obvious....Did you actually LOOK at the website? The benefits are a bit outrageous for "public servants" and are directly related to the financial problems our state is having.

Posted by than go become one, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 25, 2014 at 8:01 pm

I'm assuming that the benefits are mostly health care benefits....which YES are very expensive, though of course, necessary. I was quite shocked at how low the salaries for firefighters and police officers are. It looks like they can work there way up to decent salaries after many years and I know many rely on working overtime for extra money, but these people are risking their lives. They are making less than most engineers. This is the bay area and more expensive than other places. Seems like not enough to me. If you are so shocked at what these "public servants" make than why don't you go become one. It's so pathetic when people get on here use these public employee websites to bash public employees. So unsatisfied with their own place in life and full of anger and blame. You are responsible for bettering your own life, so grow up and stop complaining about what your hard working neighbors make.

Posted by What a joke, a resident of Birdland
on Feb 25, 2014 at 8:30 pm

What a joke. No city can survive long term paying out salaries like this. How many retired police chiefs and fire chiefs are we paying for? Anyone know?

Posted by Seriously do you hear yourself?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 25, 2014 at 10:05 pm

Oh Keri, we can tell exactly who you are by this line alone- "The benefits are a bit outrageous for "public servants"

Hope you never have to experience a life threatening experience that would make you have to come into contact with these over privileged "servants"

Im sure you would also be the first to complain if your needs weren't met to the fullest by these "servants"

Posted by Arnold, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 25, 2014 at 10:37 pm

Virtually all of these positions would better serve the public if they were privatized. Then the free market would eliminate waste. Those hired to work competitively, at competitive wages, wouldn't dare lounge about and file their nails all day long. Taxpayer provided pensions would be replaced by 401k plans. This could all be achieved with 1/4 the workforce currently employed by California taxpayers.

Fire fighters? We don't need them. Concrete buildings eliminates their need. Fire science tells us this.

Police? A privatized police force, along with privatized community DAs, would make sure 4 teenaged thugs who beat a man into unconsciousness would spend a good part of their young adult years learning how to best placate their dominant co-prisoners in prison.

An elimination of unionized prison guards, replaced by a slimed down private force, would save the state immeasurable tax dollars.

Posted by Cholo Pololo Mololo, a resident of Livermore
on Feb 26, 2014 at 4:04 pm

I appreciate that some folks prefer living in a concrete house. However the interior of a concrete house is usually made of materials that can be easily destroy by fire. Unless of course one sleeps or sits on concrete slabs. Even toilet paper burns. What if a comet from waaaaaaay outer space drops on the concrete house you will most likely survive! catch my drift? hmmmmmmm...?

May I suggest that those of you who are jealous bug types please start a campaign to reduce all public employee salaries about 89%. That way bucks can be saved so that you can whine about something else...tee hee hee...

i rest my case...

Posted by Cholo Pololo Mololo, a resident of Livermore
on Feb 26, 2014 at 4:07 pm

Necessary corrections:

. ...that can be easily be destroyed by fire.

. will most likely not survive!

you're welcome...tee hee

Posted by Formerly Dan from BC, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Feb 27, 2014 at 8:09 am

Formerly Dan from BC is a registered user.

The top 200 earn an average of $60,000 in benefits?

What kinds of benefits are they?

I work in high tech and I'd say my total benefit outlay is somewhere in the $30,000 range (medical, dental, supplemental insurance, eye glass...) with the company paying a substantial part of that. And I love my benefits.

What is the additional $30,000 of benefit expense? Pension contribution?


Posted by Embarrassed for Arnold, a resident of Birdland
on Feb 27, 2014 at 9:06 am

I don't think I have ever read a more naive and ridiculous post than that written above by Arnold. "Fire fighters? We don't need them. Concrete buildings eliminates their need. Fire science tells us this." Fantastic point. Money, don't need that either. Stealing has proven that you can get anything you want without buying it. Criminology tells us that. Healthcare, who needs that? Take vitamins, don't leave the house, wear latex gloves at all times, and don't come into contact with people, animals, or the outside air. Health science tells us this. In reference to privatizing the police, I agree, we would get a much better product with a privatized force of $12/hr armed security guards. Every time I see a Toyota Prius driving down the road with a yellow light bar on the roof, and a security emblem on the door, I automatically think that that person would be better used as a police officer, responding to an emergency, armed with a gun, and his 36 hrs of training will surely give him the appropriate insight as to whether to take someone freedom, much less their life.
Ok, I will stop with my sarcasm, although I could go on as the absurdity of the comments of some of the other posters make it easy. I will say this; police officers, firefighters, street cleaners, secretaries, and the crew that maintains the Sports Park all have one thing in common. They are not rich. They do not live in Ruby Hill, Golden Eagle, or in Castlewood. In fact, most Pleasanton "public servants" can not afford to live in Pleasanton and commute from other, more affordable cities. My recommendation to those who think that they get paid too much, don't call them. At 4am when you here something pound on your door, just go check it yourself. When the electric lines in your concrete walls ignite, and your sofa starts buying, don't call the fire department. Just feel confident that "fire science" will prevail and your safety is guaranteed. And, in the unlikely event that at some point you are compelled to ask for assistance from "public servants", take the time to thank them for what they do and remember that they may be working overtime to make their house payment.

Posted by Cholo Pololo Mololo, a resident of Livermore
on Feb 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm

I've always appreciated the services provided by firefighters police and other employees that provide various city/state/county services. GRACIAS!

If somebody pats the "Arnold" on the po-po it will feel much better!

tee hee hee...i rest my case...

Posted by huh?, a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Feb 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm

To many firefighters and paid to much money. To many policemen. Not enough paramedics. We need to keep up with the times. Improvements in home and building designs as well as smoke detection has significantly reduced fires so not needed. We need to keep up.

Posted by Arnold, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 27, 2014 at 5:52 pm

Huh? is absolutely correct. There are plenty of models that might help us move forward. China, for example.

Now, forest fires are on the upswing, thanks probably to arsonists like GreenPreach who are trying to convince all the sheeple of global warming, but forest fires happen in forests. And since no one lives in the forest except bears, that's a no brainer.

Why should we taxpayers be forced to pay outrageous sums for fat cops and the big lobs that sit around the firehouse? To its credit, China has avoided this. And when people try to start up unions there, China cracks some heads. We have to learn how to keep up with the Chinese and other forward moving countries.

Posted by Embarrassed for Arnold, a resident of Birdland
on Feb 27, 2014 at 10:02 pm

Arnold, again you are right on point. And, to my benefit, you have someone named "huh?" who thinks like you, but writes like a 3rd grader. Those activists at "GreenPreach" have undoubtedly gained control of the clouds and orchestrated the lightning strikes that start 99% of forest fires. And, the Chinese have certainly mastered how to manage their people. Not only do they prevent unionization, but they very smartly keep 80% of their population in complete poverty. Also, just to add to the good use of resources demonstrated by the Chinese, they pay police officers to do nothing more than make sure people don't have too many children. So, I don't think that I am the only one who is researching moving to China, living in a warehouse with 12,000 other employees of the factory in which I will work for 20 cents an hour, and make sure not to try to have too many children. They have certainly "figured it out". And, if I don't like my working conditions, I can say something bad about the government and get put in prison. Sounds like a win-win!!! Good thinking, Arnold. Thank you for the entertainment…."we need to keep up".

Posted by Arnold, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 27, 2014 at 11:08 pm

The ignorance in Embarr-assed is almost too much to comment on. Firstly, where are your statistics regarding lightening causing forest fires? 99%? Yeah, right. But my point stands, there are no houses in forests, only raccoons and tic shedding deer.

Secondly, Embarr-assed oh so confidently refuses to consider the likelihood that 80% of the population maybe deserves to live in poverty because they don't have the gumption to get off their lazy bee-hinds and start up there own businesses. Darwin called this survival of the fittest.

Thirdly, Embarr-assed probably doesn't realize that a lot of Chinese would rather live in poverty than be forced to submit to union thugs who take huge sums of money out of their paychecks.

Forthly, Embarr-assed obviously doesn't realize that many of us would prefer to have the whiners and bellyachers who cry for unjustified entitlements like pensions and food stamps sitting in prison as a balance to hard-working people not having most of their paychecks deducted for other peoples inability to survive in a free market place.

Finally, I think China is on to something. Its not overrun by illegals, that's for sure. And although I'm strongly opposed to abortion, if China's childrearing restrictions lead to less taxes for everyone else then all the better.

Posted by Resident taxpayer, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 28, 2014 at 12:25 am

It's the ungrateful, mouthing off arrogance of the public employees on this site this is repulsive. They should be kissing our feet for providing for their excessive retirements, leaving us nothing for our own retirements.
That there are over 100 banking over $200,000./year is putting the city in an impossible situation for the future, and the dozen near $350,000. is so unjustified. That doesn't happen in your average medium company of comparably skilled employees. These unrealistic excesses are simply not sustainable. The future doesn't bode well. I'm in a circle of professionals, but know none able to put away that much to build that kind of 'guaranteed' pension.
I suppose sending suited fire team in addition to the EMT team for a medical issues is a ' union' contract thing, insuring padding of more 'employees'
The whole system is pure excess. Our excessive fire benefits should be reserved for 6 & 7 story situations, certainly not in our berg of 2 & 3 stories. We could jump in a net, and have our own rope ladders...with no fat retirements.
I always cringe reading the water bill, at Business hours of 7:30-3:30... I guess lunch is on us 8 hours of 'work' no longer the norm. Union extortion, I suppose. Maybe staggering, but 7 hours?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Feb 28, 2014 at 7:41 am

If you sort by base salary, some of the numbers seem high to me.

$179K for Community Development?
$173K for Library Services?
$158K for Economic Development?

These are just the base salaries.

Posted by Cholo Pololo Mololo, a resident of Livermore
on Feb 28, 2014 at 11:21 am

The above post citing the salaries - "base salary" - is not my post.

I'm quite happy with the salaries of employees. They work hard and deserve reasonable salaries to care for themselves and loved ones.

i rest my case...

BUSTED! tee hee...

Posted by I love Pleasanton, a resident of Birdland
on Feb 28, 2014 at 1:40 pm

Too any of you that think we can do away with our fire department, police department or any other city employees...I hope that if you suffer a heart attack or are robbed that you don't call 911 and expect these people you speak so poorly of to come save you or help you. We live in a beautiful city. I pay the same taxes you pay and I am happy to do do because our tax money pays the employees that keep us safe and maintain out town the way it is! Our streets are clean and safe, our parks are beautiful and well maintained, the city has great community programs for adult, seniors and children. These employees that you complain make too much money are the people that are keeping your property values up! Without these people doing their job our town would not be the Pleasanton we all enjoy. So go ahead grumble and moan about how all these employees are over paid in your eyes but just see how your propety values would plummet if these workers were to go away. Truth be told the majority of city employees could not afford to live in Pleasanton off the salaries you think are too high. And for the person stating that people in certain departments are working 7 hour days did you ever stop to think that work hours maybe longer than the office hours? Or maybe hours have been cut back to try to reduce saleries? I love how bored people with small minds and limited information like to jump conclusions. As for the folks talking about China and how we should follow their lead...please if you think China is doing it better than Pleasanton then by all means pack yourself up and move there. I will pay for your airfare because you are a real piece of work! I love this town and purchased a home here and I applaud the city for taking care of it employees and our town.

Posted by I love Pleasanton, a resident of Birdland
on Feb 28, 2014 at 2:04 pm

Yes, I see all of my typos like Too instead of to but I replied on my phone and had limited time to reply.

Posted by HA, a resident of Del Prado
on Mar 3, 2014 at 11:47 pm

than go become one, Can you explain how a pleasanton fire fighter is risking his/her life? Can you tell me how many times a year they fight a fire? I already know why they work OT, and its not because they need money to live. They could make 1,000 to 1,500 on a 24hour shift. So if you don't want to get bashed don't rip us off. Tell the people how much it cost to pull Big Red out to drive couple miles to Safway. Time to go make $62.00 dollars an hour while i sleep. Oh I forgot to mention that Fire and Police don't even make the top ten most dangerous jobs. Check it out and thank the people that really make you Love Pleasanton.

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