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(Comment partially removed by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff) PPD is doing a good job, we just need a few more officers on patrol now that all the hoodlums have discovered are once quiet little town, like I've said before it's way past time to circle our wagons and lock the gates. Wake up people, time to slow it down on our city streets, quit running stop signs downtown and maybe quit trying to take out the pedestrians in the crosswalks, be a little more observant of your surroundings, report something that doesn't look right, PPD is always quick to respond.
How drunk do you have to be to get shot in the butt and not even know it until your friend tells you that you're bleeding?
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Redcoats has attracted a slimy crowd ever since opening. Noise complaints, fights, gunshots (!?!). This place is not what we need in Pleasanton. Maybe their insurance company will raise the rates high enough to get them to leave. It would be different if their food was any good but it is not. Even Past Time Pool was a classier place than Redcoats. Go away, please.
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I originally posted the story. Why did PW remove mine and replace it?
Your welcome btw
kbenson, Sorry thats how this paper works. They deleted mine because it was inappropriate? So far from the truth. This paper only allows their view and they need to be the first to share. Map thinks PPD is doing a good job and i
disagree. I think we need better not more.
resident, When they first opened it was great. Older crowd Walnut Grove staff always held events at Red Coats.
The reason we have this is because of Barone's. The same crowd found Red Coats because of Barone's. The
police will hang out and patrol every place in town but Barone's. I wonder why city peps turn their heads?
Drive by that place and you see outhouses,tents with windows, easy ups. WE need to shut down Thursday summer
night's at Barone's.
I think if we build more affordable housing units, that should resolve everything.
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to: downtown resident,
Now let get this straight. If the food was better, you would put up with the slimy crowds, the noise, the fights and the gun shots?????
It goes without saying that as long as you attempt to attract young customers and you mix alcohol with music you are bound to have altercations. I have lived in this community for a long time and I remember what it was like on a Friday night at the Roundup or the Red Cable. The Union Jack was shut down because the clientele continually got out of hand. I suspect that if the Red Coats continue to attract a less than family oriented crowd they too will fall victim to closing. It would be a shame if that happens due to the jobs lost and another property shuttered for an extended period of time. There is still a hole where the Union Jack Pub use to be. We have a very nice city with the exception of a few bad apples. Barones is not the problem. Joe and Marcella do a wonderful job attracting the right clientele and I for one enjoy the food and their customer service. I don't attend the Thursday evening venues but if I didn't have to work for a living I might.
Thank you Peasanton PD for timely arrest. Can't really ask for a better outcome. I sure wouldn't want to be the one to confront a 21-year old Meth addict with a gun. And I'm sure no one else did that night. Thanks for doing your job, as you do so well everyday. End of story. Be safe.
Can't say I didn't see this coming. We all had high hopes before their opening that Redcoats would become an asset to the downtown restaurant/bar scene and even met with Mari and her sons to welcome them to town. They seemed like great people and we all thought we had a new great local hangout.
That warm fuzzy feeling lasted all of 2-3 months. Somehow this place is just a magnet for the local Ed Hardy wearing D-Bag boys and the usual suspect skanky, sketchy, wanna-be-thug crowd. Too bad. OK food, decent service, GREAT location but the crowd they attract just doesn't justify the added grief to deal with the knuckleheads walking through their doors.
Maybe the next owners and business will learn to market and cater to a different clientele.
As usual, Pleasantonians totally miss the point of why incidents like this happen. It has nothing to do with there being too many bars or too much nightlife in downtown. The truth is most of the bars have been run out of town over the years. Last time I checked, Livermore, Walnut Creek, and Palo Alto were still standing despite their numerous bars. Pleasanton simply lacks the type of clientele to support a civilized bar. This town has done everything in its power to discourage professional, creative, single 20 and 30-somethings from moving here. These are the types that would support a vibrant nightlife and not shoot up the place. I'm not even going to get into the economic benefits this demographic could bring to this city (see Silicon Valley). But no, we have spent the last 15 years building McMansions for 50 year olds. So the Pleasanton bar scene is populated by a strange mix of middle aged men and disenfranchised youth that never went to college or moved beyond this town. Other cities can attract a classy element to their bars that Pleasanton can't. It's that simple. The irony is deep.
Sal has made a very insightful comment. The shooter is apparently a Pleasanton resident. I doubt Redcoats is why he lives here. It seems to be just where he chose to act out. Beats a mall shooting, in my book.
Sal, I'm trying to read between the lines of your rant about our city; please identify who this boogey man is that prevents 'civilized bars' from operating profitably. The bars that were 'run out of town' all had repeated issues with thugs from out of town causing trouble---go look up the arrest records from 'Aura', the bar/nightclub that operated near Hacienda Business park.
The correlation you're trying make between successful mature people moving here and the uncontrolled chaos at businesses like Redcoats smacks of a childish jealousy that is all too common from people that are commonly referred to as 'disenfranchised youth' (read irresponsible) .
Maybe someday you will be fortunate enough to live to be 50 years old, but not if you hang out in places like Redcoats. Some of these issues could be controlled by hiring a good bouncer.
Of course, you could drive up to Walnut Creek, where they've had their own rash of incidents that required them to impose curfews on several establishments. Or, maybe open your own club, since you imply you're aware of a magic formula for attracting 'professional, creative, single 20 and 30-somethings', presumbly who don't do drugs or drink to the point of beligerence.
I'm with Sal on this one. When I graduated in the late 80's it was the same deal. The kids with their heads on straight got out of town. The miscreants (like myself) didn't have other options and we just stuck around. The places that attracted folks in their early 20's attracted us miscreants. The bars here have always been dodgy.
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