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Should Congress Be Held to the Same Standards?

Original post made by Daveg, Birdland, on Oct 24, 2013

Regardless of one's political beliefs, the following comments by Rand Paul seem to me to make a lot of sense.

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Posted by Student
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 25, 2013 at 8:15 am

It's ironic: the guy who's on record as saying blacks shouldn't have to be served at white restaurants if the owners so wish, quotes MLK.

Don't really know what this poorly written opinion piece by Randy Paul is all about. You'd think if one is seriously proposing a constitutional amendment that one might make an effort to be really clear, with lots of examples and such. But of course this racist little pipsqueak is not serious about a new amendment. He's simply posturing -- and readers of the Moony newspaper like Da veg lap it up.

Maybe Da veg would care to offer in his own words a clearer explanation of what Randy is up to?

I'm not surprised that even the right-tilting corporate media wouldn't touch this poorly written excuse for yet another half-baked criticism of ACA. Randy had to go to the commie-fighting Rev. Moon outlet. For Da veg to have approvingly offered this little laugh tells us more about Da veg than it does anything else, except what low standards Randy Paul has. Next, expect him to speak at Jim Jones university on the horrors of medicare and social security because certain wink-wink entitlement groups draw upon them.

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Posted by Daveg
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 25, 2013 at 8:44 am

Daveg is a registered user.

In spite of "Student's", i.e. Mike Cherry's rambling comments that are laughable, I wonder what one finds to fault the premise that "Congress shall make no law applicable to a citizen of the United States that is not equally applicable to Congress."
Part of the problem with our legislators today is that they are not held to the same standards as the rest of the country. Is "Student" saying that the laws that the common citizen is held to don't apply to Congress and that is acceptable to him?

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Posted by Student
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 25, 2013 at 9:34 am

So, Da veg, I must be confused, because I don't know why such an amendment is necessary. One should stop at a stop sign. Okay, I get it. Do we need an amendment for that?

Please, Da veg, we need some clarification. From you. In your own words. Here's your chance to step out from your Moonyism and really let us know what you're thinking.

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Posted by Daveg
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:45 am

Daveg is a registered user.

Student/Mike Cherry,
Here are a few examples for you to ponder. You still have not answered the question regarding the same rules applying to Congress. Pleased to see your admitting that your confused. However that was already apparent.
"If current pension levels and cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) for Congress members continue to apply in the future, some former members of Congress could conceivably collect millions of dollars in annuities over the course of their lifetimes. As of 2007, the average annuities for retired members of Congress were $63,696 for those who retired under CSRS and $36,732 for those who retired under FERS. Those figures are quite good (about "2-3 times more generous than what a similarly-salaried executive could expect to receive upon retiring from the private sector," according to the National Taxpayers Union)".
Congress members do receive medical benefits beyond those available to regular federal workers.
For an annual payment of $503, members can receive routine care from the Office of the Attending Physician, which has facilities in the Capitol. ABC News reported last year that these services include physicals and other examinations, on-site X-rays and lab work, physical therapy and referrals to medical specialists.
In addition, current members can receive medical and emergency dental care at military hospitals and clinics. Inpatient care is covered by FEHBP insurance, but outpatient care is free if it's performed at facilities in the national capital region, such as Bethesda Naval Hospital in Maryland or Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the District of Columbia.

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Posted by Student
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:06 am

Yes, Da veg, I get confused by garbled messages, I admit.

I asked for your own words, and all you provided was a quote that may or may not have been relevant. Do you have any ability to think for yourself at all? It isn't evident that you do.

So, you want your congressperson to make minimum wage? I'd tend to agree with you on that, because then we'd see the minimum wage go up.

You want your congresspersons to have the same health benefits as those provided by the ACA? Wouldn't that depend on what kind of care is being sought, family income level, and the like? Since your guy Randy Paul is a millionaire, this really doesn't concern him one way or another. And since the overwhelming majority of congress are millionaires, it doesn't affect them much either.

As I see it, this is simply another tactic used by the Moony-based right to stir up discontent with a law that provides healthcare for millions of folks who weren't getting it previously. This tactic might fly with the race-obsessed loony Moonies who read the Washington Times, but I can assure you ACA is here to stay. And as for your Randy Paul? He has about as much concern about justice in our society as you do. I cannot WAIT for the Republican primaries to begin! Because Randy and the laugh-a-minute guys and gals up on the stage provides better entertainment than 'hot babes' wrestling in the mud.

Writing assignment: Start by writing a paragraph on how you got to the store. Then maybe a paragraph on what grocery store check-out stand magazines are your faves. Give your writings to people you know and trust. Get their feedback. Yes, they may indeed laugh at you, but that's all part of the process.

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Posted by Daveg
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:24 am

Daveg is a registered user.

Let me clarify for you; Do you think that members of Congress receive perks and interpretation of laws that the average citizen is not privy to? Your attempt to interject political rhetoric into this is a waste of time. My statement from my original posting still remains regarding "It will be interesting to see how much support this amendment generates among our duly elected representatives". That statement applies equally to both parties and any and all individuals.
How one can make the following statement into an attack is laughable.
"Congress shall make no law applicable to a citizen of the United States that is not equally applicable to Congress."

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 25, 2013 at 5:55 pm

Is there a way to frame the BART/Union conflicts and the subsequent deaths of employees over the years that a case against BART Management could be presented to the International Criminal Court in Holland?

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