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BART operators work 4.5 hours and get paid for 8

Original post made by Joe, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2013

From Zakhary Mallett, BART director. BART directors are an elected position. The overwhelming sentiment is that the unions are holding the public hostage by threatening to strike. Mr. Mallett is doing his job by representing the people what elected him, and holding firm against union demands. 72% of Mr. Mallett's constituents believe the BART offer to the unions should be accepted.

Mr. Mallett goes on to state that BART train operators are paid to run two round-trips each day. This takes 4.5 hours on average, but the operators are paid for eight. The effective pay rate according to Mr. Mallett is a little over $50.00 per hour.

Compounding this, I'm not sure why overtime, which is so prevalent among the workforce, is necessary.

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm

I rest my case...Web Link


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2013 at 1:54 pm

Completely agree, Dorothy Dugger was grossly overpaid and should not have received compensation for sick time. Both unions and management within BART, the CA Teachers' Union, and elsewhere tend to have a provision that allows them to get paid for sick time that has accumulated over the years. It's a side benefit that the public largely ignores until it makes the news, as it did with Ms. Dugger.

Now, working 4.5 hours to get paid for 8? With average BART salaries, this works out to $33,880 per union employee per year. And there are close to 3,000 union employees. Or, looking at this another way, if each union employee was actually working 8 hours a day instead of 4.5, the system could do with 1,320 fewer employees.


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Posted by Pat Sullivan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2013 at 4:31 pm

My boss works maybe 2 hours out of 8, and that's when he shows up. He blames us when things go badly, and he steals ideas from us and takes credit for that which goes well. 4.5 hours out of 8, plus prep times between runs, sounds pretty reasonable to me.

What's Mr. Mallet's work per hour? Does he do work? Or does he simply do PR work for BART management?


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Posted by Friedell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 14, 2013 at 9:07 am

Fire all the BART workers and BART management! These meatballs can EASILY be replaced with people that will work for 1/3 the compensation. Aren't people in the Bay Area sick and tired of being gouged by these lazy meatballs?


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Posted by Friedell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 14, 2013 at 9:14 am

Pat Sullivan,
If that is your real name, you might not have to worry about you boss much longer. Some of the readers might forward you post to him/her.


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Posted by JustTheFacts
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 14, 2013 at 9:22 am

Joe -- On target. Though I believe your current salary number is too low. (The avergage station agent makes $100k per year -- $130k if you add a conservative estimate of the benefits. I can't imagine train operators getting much less).

Firedell -- You are so right. But, since Pat Sullivan is as clueless as Obama on making apples to apples comparisons, maybe he is using his real name.


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Posted by Chemist
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:59 am

Fast forward to when we all live in stack and pack by the track housing and must rely on Bart or equivalent to go anywhere. Welcome to ABAG.


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Posted by P-Town Neighbor
a resident of Amador Estates
on Oct 14, 2013 at 11:16 am

Close BART for a week. Then re-open it as a new Non-Union company - with all new Management (and less of them).

Let's put people in there that want to work and be polite.




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Posted by Lessismore
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Oct 14, 2013 at 3:55 pm

Give them what they want>
But stop other tax payer funding.

Increase the ticket price to cove all of running BART.

When the ride ship drops by 50% cut 50% of the staff.

Or the evil work that many hate in the Bay Area.

Sell BART to investors.
Cut BS jobs because you know someone.
Re-work all union contract and cut 50% of the staff. If they only work 4.5 hours then cut 50%.


Both sides are a joke.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 14, 2013 at 4:12 pm

Lessismo...please esplain what you would pay BART management for their highly demanding mental and physical labor? Not to mention keeping an eye on so many opportunities and money grabbing moves they know.

What makes you think you can sneak out the back without spelling out clearly what you would do to BART management to help save money?

hmmmmmmmmmmm...I'm waiting!


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 14, 2013 at 4:27 pm

Question: Does everybody agree that the lady in charge at BART who has attended 2 or 3 negotiation meetings with the Union deserves to earn a whopping $325 thousand dollars plus thousands upon thousands in hidden perks?

Answer: Yes or NO?

ps she must be way cool and smarty pants...tee hee

How much does the hired outside chief negotiator for BART earn for a few months work + perks + 10 days off for his vacation to FRANCE! tee hee...


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:30 am

This is the "last and best" from management to the workers:

"The offer includes a 12 percent wage increase over four years, retroactive to July 5, plus a bonus if BART exceeds its ridership goals, but also requires employees to make a 4 percent pension contribution and a 9.5 percent contribution to their health benefits, according to BART officials."

Notice how none of the work rules have been changed?

So they still work less hours for more pay and - GASP! - they have to pay more into their own retirement and healthcare.

And a BONUS!

BTW, I kinda sympathize (actually I really don't) with the workers regarding paying more for their healthcare. Just received notice that Kaiser, because of ACA, is raising my rate 66% in 2014. No joke.

Sincerely,

Dan


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 15, 2013 at 6:31 pm

Have heart...if you haven't paid through the nose for something in this life, you will eventually!


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Posted by let'm strike
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 15, 2013 at 8:46 pm

"Mr. Mallett goes on to state that BART train operators are paid to run two round-trips each day. This takes 4.5 hours on average, but the operators are paid for eight."

And their entire shift is only 7.5 hours to begin with. BART management has already caved. If the unions can't ratify the last-best-final offer then let them strike. In the long run we'll be better off.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:28 am

I completely support a STRIKE. A strike is about management being greedy, and behaving as criminals.

Some management are indeed criminals.


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Posted by Daveg
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:54 am

Daveg is a registered user.

Again, what an asinine statement by Ms. Cholo! "Behaving as criminals" has to be one of the dumbest statements (to date) that Ms. Cholo has made.
However her statement ranks right up there with Antonette Bryant.
In his latest column Tom Barnidge hit it right on the head. "Of all the preposterous statements made during the will-it-ever-end BART labor impasse, first prize goes to Antonette Bryant, president of the Amalgamated Transit Union, in describing her management counterparts:

"These people have no concern for the riding public, and we are appalled at that. It's important for us that the public understand that we are being pushed into a position of striking."

She and her colleagues were being "pushed" at that point with a contract offer that guaranteed a pay increase of 12 percent over four years, monthly health insurance payments limited to $132 and pension contributions beginning at 1 percent and gradually rising to 4. (Those who participate in Social Security cough up 6 percent of every paycheck.)
If contract terms like those are the product of coercion, somebody please twist my arm".
Read the entire column Web Link


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Posted by Pat Sullivan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 17, 2013 at 11:46 am

Wow, put all these anti-worker posters together, and you probably end up with one guy with many names holding up a sign saying "Nobody will hire me because I'm unfit for working a job in the company of others."

I support the workers. Their demands seem reasonable and amount to a small raise after going years without. Management's demands amount to workers taking a pay cut after going years without a raise. Management tends to be this way, provided that is you're able to pull them off the golf course.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 17, 2013 at 12:03 pm

May the negotiations continue in good faith.

Is the darling chief negotiatior back from his second vacation...tee hee hee...

this is one of my favorite songs: oh CHOLO mio!


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm

PLUS THE GENIE OF THE JUG SAIS HOORAY!

Hayom Yom!


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