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Homeless on Valley Ave

Original post made by Curious on Sep 1, 2013

Today I noticed a homeless man near the corner of Valley and Santa Rita - Safeway side, by the gas station. He had a cardboard sign and all, including two young children under an umbrella on the sidewalk.

I don't have anything against the homeless, and I like to help those in need but I have seen the same man there several times now, always with different people sitting beneath him. Something just didn't feel right. Does anyone know anything about this?

Comments (18)

Posted by Right, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2013 at 8:37 pm

They have also been loitering and panhandling on Owens and Hopyard, near Tommy T's and in front of the parking lot at Trader Joes. I watched the guy panhandling in front of TJs get dropped off by a white panel van at 10am last Sumday morning. While some of these well imported vagrants may be drug addicts and mentally unstable, so,e are being transported into town since they think we all have lots of extra money to support them.

Posted by Leland, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Sep 1, 2013 at 9:22 pm

ewwwww! Homeless people. They should have gotten a skill before becoming homeless. I have no sympathy for them. If you don't get educated and skilled in this society, you deserve your unhappy fate. Its survival of the fittest. That's human nature.

Posted by Neighborhood, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2013 at 11:14 pm

I saw man & young teens there both last Sat & Sun, in front of Walgreens door Sat & at the interior Walgreens lot intersection on Sun. Today, I saw him alone on the curb at lot exit on to Valley, with his sign. It was so dangerous trying to roll out into traffic, I couldn't see what the sign said.
When I mentioned to an employee in side, & the comment was, 'yes, then they come in here and buy the most expensive of whatever items
they get. ( not bargain shoppers like me).

Posted by Mom, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Sep 1, 2013 at 11:20 pm

I know this is going to sound so heartless, but in my view, when kids are used as props in these situations, CPS needs to do some sort of check in. If I brought my child to work daily, I'd get fired and I also have to be drug tested. I'm actually known to give some if these folks a few dollars because once I make contact, I can't say no. I always remind myself that most of the time I get more out of giving than they do receiving. Not because they aren't grateful, because I know I'm one of many trying to help.

Don't really know what the right answer is. If we are beIng tricked with these people being bussed in, that doesn't change that my intentions are the right ones. They can deal with their maker if they are a fraud.

Posted by Phil Acio, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Sep 1, 2013 at 11:51 pm

a few weeks ago i saw one of the usuals at walmart. i went inside and did my shopping and also stopped in the customer service area. i had them print me up a job application. i gave the application to the begger and all i got were excuses. "i don't have a phone so they can't call me back." "i only have a PO box and they won't send info to a PO box." BS. these people are not interested in "getting back on their feet." they're only interested in handouts.

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Posted by Leland, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Sep 2, 2013 at 12:04 am

I commend you Phil for seeing through the BS. Because obviously walmart does not require a phone number, right? And, of course they don't have a policy about sending info to a PO Box. Wow, Ace, you really read through that BS didn't you? So, what tipped you off? Say, have you thought about becoming a private detective?

Posted by Don, a resident of Del Prado
on Sep 2, 2013 at 8:02 am

So, Leland of Ruby Hill, what have you done to help the homeless? Do you flip them a buck from time to time and pat yourself on the back? Do you realize there are many government services available and those in need can collect MORE than minimum wage in this state? Doesn't that make you wonder why people are out panhandling?

Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 2, 2013 at 9:54 am

I hope you all remember that 1 in 6 Americans suffer from both hunger and obesity.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Sep 2, 2013 at 9:59 am

Isn't obesity a form of hunger?

Hopefully, the children are in good health and not in danger.

It's not uncommon to see exploited children in Plutonia.

Posted by Curious, a resident of Harvest Park Middle School
on Sep 2, 2013 at 10:06 am

If these people are not genuinely in need and are not interested in taking advantage of the many services available to them in this area, is there anything that can be done?

This reminds me of some of the homeless in SF who claim to be 'hungry' but will not accept donations of food. Is there no city ordinance against loitering near the driveway all day?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Sep 2, 2013 at 10:15 am

It seems to me that what's most urgent is to determine if the children are safe.

There are adults in Plutonia who appear respectable but are sexual predators and may be looking for children to exploit.

Is there a market for trafficked children in Plutonia?

just asking...

Posted by kbenson, a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Sep 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm

I went to Costco (livermore) the other day and noticed a woman holding cardboard sigh, with infant in stroller.

This and similar have been quite common in SF + SJ. How many are legit? Not sure, but I don't think a law exists which prevent it.

BTW residents of Pleasanton/Dublin/livermore, welcome to the "new world"
Jobs get outsourced, tax money gets used to "help" those in other countries - i.e Afghanistan, Syria and many people (even those working) are struggling to make ends meet.
People will do what it takes to survive, lie/cheat/steal (more and more it is happening here as well.

Countries like Germany spend tax money training HS grads, We spend it firing missiles and paying for state/fed workers perks

Posted by Leland, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Sep 2, 2013 at 3:35 pm

It really warms my heart to know we have so many among us in Pleasanton watching out for our interest by keeping the homeless at bay.

Posted by Neighborhood, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 2, 2013 at 4:01 pm

I wonder if we're all taking about the same man, or if there are several. At first it was an East Indian woman at Walgreens, with kids who were embarrassed to participate. Sat & Sun this week was same Indian man as was there last Sun.
To Curious, they, no HE,(likely uses kids as a draw) may very well get public aid, and this panhandling is 'off the books'!

To Phil, re WalMart man. I assume you were speaking of the very heavy black man who sort of has a homeless base around WalMart. He's always been in/around that center for over a year.

Posted by Leland, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Sep 2, 2013 at 4:31 pm

My Daddy told me that the average panhandler makes around $500.00 per day. Besides that, they're on food stamps. Can't we turn them into the authorities and have them remove such vermin? Oh, that's right, Obama wants them out of the streets to make everyone with a home feel better.

All I can suggest is that everybody be indoors by nightfall and put double locks on all the doors.

Posted by Phil Acio, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Sep 2, 2013 at 7:15 pm

Neighborhood: No, I'm not talking about Raymond. I've never seen him holding a sign asking for money. People will give him money, but he never asks. The guy I'm talking about wears glasses, has short dreadlocks, and is usually wearing a tie dye shirt.

Leland: Must feel pretty good to look down on us from behind your gated community where you pay good money to not have to be confronted by the decay of modern society. Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for being so evolved and don't trip getting off your soap box.

Posted by Leland, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Sep 2, 2013 at 9:05 pm

Yes, it's nice being above the riff-raff, above those losers who had the potential but either didn't educate themselves or acquire the skill needed to make it to Ruby Hill where the truly successful live.

I knew a Phil Acio once upon a time. He had an identity problem. Sometimes he'd call himself Dave, Steve, Nomad, Right, Dan, lcl, union troll, liberalism is a diseasee. No matter what name he went by, however, he was always readily identifiable as the dumbest kid on the block. We loved having him around, thought, cuz his stupid remarks were always the butt of our jokes.

Posted by franco, a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Sep 3, 2013 at 8:31 pm

franco is a registered user.

Scanning this thread it seems that few if any get what is going on. This scam has been running for a long time at Walmart in Pleasanton and now seems to be spreading because of the success enjoyed there, that is, enough people falling for the implied "homeless family" using rent-a-kids. I think this is actually some church group that has organized this fraud to raise money and everybody in this thread thinks this is about homelessness. Please stop giving. Like feeding feral cats they will only keep expanding.

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