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on Jul 25, 2013
"officers obtained a $640,000 arrest warrant"
May I ask what a $640,000 arrest warrant is?
Mike that would be the dollar amount that is set to bail out on the charges. Generally there are dollar amounts preassigned to specific criminal charges and when they total up thats how much the bail is set at. A judge can also change the amount if he/she feels its appropriate.
My guess is that he will try to reason that the police had no right to search his gun safe as they only had a warrant for his son.
How is that going to work out?
I have sort of a silly, but sincere question. If the police determined they felt it was just a horrible accident, would the still forward it to the DA? Does the fact that it was forwarded to the DA indicate the police believe there was a crime involved? What would they send to the DA if they didn't find he did anything wrong?
I know this was the weekend before graduation and there was a lot of partying going on. If he had even a .01 blood alcohol level, I thinks that still a DUI since he's not 21. I know nothing about whether or not he might have partied or consumed alcohol the night before this "accident", but it actually wouldn't surprise me either given the timing and partying that was taking place.
So sorry. Wrong story. Oops.
MY original post was correct after all. Would they send something to the DA if they didn't something to it. If the investigation came back that all laws were being followed and his blood was alcohol and drug free, why would they send something to the DA? I see this as a signal we can expect charges. RIP for the lady that died.
Melanie -- have you followed anything at all about this crime?
The kid had already wrecked two cars and had posted to FB and Twitter about his speeding including a photo of him driving 85 MPH on Foothill Rd. There have been statements made, apparently by witnesses, that Cody hit the cyclist while illegally trying to pass a car. After the collision his car had to be towed, it was too damaged to be driven. How do you even hit a cyclist hard enough to disable a car?
One of his posts, which remained up AFTER he killed the cyclist, asked his friends "who wants to go on a death ride with me?" And you want to know if there was a crime here? Excuse me? Let's start with reckless homicide and maybe up it to murder in the first degree as he clearly practiced for exactly what eventually happened.
Geez, if ever there was a case for someone going to prison this is it. Or maybe we should take pity on the "poor kid" and let him go home to mommy and daddy where he can be surrounded by drugs and guns while living in the home of a twice convicted felon.
Also a cyclist- Really??
This is a different Melanie. You provided an outstanding overview and included info that many of us didn't have. Whether it's true and strong enough...the DA will decide. What I don't understand is your tone. Melanie clearly stated that she wasn't sure about the case and yet you talked to her like she is stupid. Would you speak to her this way if your real name was up here or your picture? What if you guys were at a dinner party together? Anyone who decides to follow a Weekly post will think our residents are disrespectful and rude.
Melanie wrote: "I have sort of a silly, but sincere question. If the police determined they felt it was just a horrible accident, would the still forward it to the DA?"
I would guess that the answer would be "no" I don't think that the DA's office would want to be flooded with police accident reports for every single auto accident but would only want reports associated with accidents in which the police suspected wrongdoing.
As you can see, this is an emotional and tragic accident but was it a foreseeable accident? Based on Cody totaling three cars before he was 18 (one was in the Foothill parking lot), posting pictures driving 85 MPH on Foothill road, bragging about getting pulled over for speeding on Foothill and not getting a ticket,.. Was a crime committed, I think so.
Here's another example (not related to Cory), I was driving on 680, as a car was passing me on the left, I could see the driver was texting (looking down at phone, fingers moving). As a pulled behind the car, I noticed that the traffic has slowed down dramatically for some reason. Unfortunately, the texter did not see it and/or react quickly. The car plowed into the car in front of it and I mean plowed into the car. Was it an accident? Yes but a foreseeable accident.
PS. I reported the accident to 911
I do not think the person was really meaning to talk down to Melanie. They were just expressing their outraged that this person is bragging about what they did and voicing it to Melanie.
Both the Dad and the son (the apple does not fall far from the tree) (Comment partially removed by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff) Both deserve to go to prison and break rocks for the rest of their lives. They should not have TV and exercise rooms and libraries. Just simple food, a prison in the desert and break rocks for the rest of their lives.
People like this cannot be redeemed. They both know it.
"People like this cannot be redeemed. They both know it."
I'm inclined to agree, especially for the father. I'm still amazed by the brazenness of his actions. He knew very well that, as an ex-felon, he's not supposed to own firearms. I'm sure that that simple fact was hammered into his brain very well, especially since one of his convictions was related to the misuse of a firearm (i.e., shooting at an inhabited dwelling). He's not even allowed to own a simple small-caliber Daisy 22 rifle . So what does he do? He goes out and gets two illegal assault rifles! - weapons that even people with absolutely squeaky-clean records cannot legally own. I hope that the his judge is as outraged as I am.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I have been following this case closely as I have a child who is a student at foothill high school. from what I have read, I do believe that he should be charged with a crime, and was thinking that this being forwarded to the DA meant that the police might agree. I appreciate the responses to my layperson question.
The DA is licking his chops and you can bet that some charges are coming for this case. Boasting with pictures online is foolish because even if it was a gag it creates lasting impressions. Most people are showing the world exactly how they behave (with some exaggeration) with social media pages.
We all used to go fast on Foothill and every year you'd hear that someone died but it isn't responsible to do so today. There are far too many people to risk such a short thrill at someone else's expense. Looking at the sum of the facts, I'd say his goose is cooked and deservedly so!
Who said the guns and ammo were the fathers? Either way it will be regarded as such because of his past record. The guns will be considered under his control. There's nothing wrong with the guns if you follow the rules so let's not demonize the law abiding gun owners.
Big Al wrote: "Who said the guns and ammo were the fathers? Either way it will be regarded as such because of his past record. The guns will be considered under his control. "
Well, apparently they weren't his son's because the son claimed that he didn't know the combo to the safe that the guns and ammo were found in. In any case, there's no innocent explanation for the presence of those particular guns in that house because the guns themselves were illegal assault weapons.
Regardless of the DA' s descision( which she will charge)...the facts are being missed. As drivers he all have the rsponsibility to operate our respective vehicles with reasonable safety....this driver did not and someone died. This is all it takes to complete the crime of vehicular manslaughter. All the other facebookpostings and the like just reinforce his lack of remorse and caring. I would like to thank the efforts of the Pleasanton PD who always submit full and complete investigations to the DA....you have done a great job again.?.unfortunately the penalty for vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence is not high enough.
Note to Mary from Hart Middle Sch. Community - Being an avid cyclist, I do hope justice is served (that could have been me on Foothill) , but whether the guys are "white" or of other skin color makes no difference and the "white trash" name calling was not necessary . I am a minority of color and am extremely tired of the racism that has been rearing it's ugly face
Cody Hall was arrested today on two felony counts, manslaughter and reckless driving. He will probably be put away for a long time.
Finally -- that little creep is where he belongs! Daddy and son, two peas in a pod. Lock them up forever.
Correct. Booked into Santa Rita tonight on two felonies. Six years maximum on 192C1 (vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence). Not much given his complete disregard for others' lives (based on past actions and this incident)though that's the law. May do 2 - 3 years. $100K bail so he will be out soon.
Sad and tragic as this is for Diana's family as well as the rest of the Hall family, I just hope that other lives are spared by this sobering lesson sinking in to every driver who thinks wild driving is entertaining. The high schools alternate the "every 15 minutes" program each year which would be a perfect venue for Cody, who just graduated, to explain to every high school driver how a few moments of thrill riding worked out for him.
FHSMom I don't think I'd count on him signing up for that! He is quite proud of his driving skills and has nothing to teach anyone.
Too bad that a young 18-year old messed up his life, but he had plenty of chances to wake up and realize that he was playing a dangerous game that was going to burn him sooner or later. Sad that someone had to die in order for the law to put an end to his ways.
Illegal assault weapons with thousands of rounds of ammo, shooting at an inhabited dwelling, illegal drugs, 85 mph on Foothill, 140 mph on the freeway - I hope that this family packs it up and takes their act elsewhere. Pleasanton will be better off without them.
Sam wrote: "Too bad that a young 18 year old messed up his life" etc.
He is a reflection of the apathetic youth we see everywhere. They're impatient and feel entitled and they have no respect for anyone else. Perhaps he will learn a bit about respect when he's locked up and beaten down.
What is "too bad" is that he killed a cyclist who undoubtedly will be missed by those whose lives she touched and her family. I didn't know her, but Diana should be regarded as part of our universal family and it is truly a loss for all of us.
Sam, assault rifles are not illegal so quit ranting about thousands of rounds yada yada yada. If you knew how many of your neighbors have thousands of bullets and assault rifles you'd be moving elsewhere apparently. Better get used to it because people are stocking up more than ever with all the fervor over recent trend shootings/massacres, guns and ammo became overpriced and scarce. They're probably being stored right next door to you. So, if you have prior gun charges and aren't supposed to own a gun it doesn't matter what kind of gun it may be, you can't have one.
Guns aren't the real problem here, it's a societal/media issue. Did you see the machete killing recently? A pen or a screwdriver or a drill, it really doesn't matter does it? Anything can be used to kill. Lay off the guns owners it's really making you look ignorant.
I feel absolutely no sorrow for the Hall family that another post expressed. His father is a twice convicted felon in possession who willfully broke the law by being in possession of these guns and ammo and their son's willful misconduct took a beautiful person away from her family. If there is a "Mrs. Hall" in the house, you cannot tell me she didn't see the gun safe or know what it contained and surely you can't suggest she didn't know her husband's felon status. They also helped the younger Hall replace cars after he wrecked them and helped him get out of a ticket for doing exactly what he did that killed this poor women.
No sorrow at all for them. Not one bit.
Every ounce of my compassion is with the family of the woman taken from her family. I hope they throw the book at both of these Hall men.... (Comments partially removed by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff as inappropriate.)
Big Al wrote: "Sam, assault rifles are not illegal so quit ranting about thousands of rounds yada yada yada"
You're wrong, Big Al. The particular guns that Aaron Hall had were illegal assault weapons and that's what he was charged with. Those charges were in addition to charges that as an ex-felon he's not supposed to have any guns at all.
Whether the assault rifles in question were pre ban or post ban in this case is really irrelevant. Did you see the model and make Sam? Where did you get that information? Don't trust what is reported here because there are many omissions and errrors in the PW articles. The father couldn't posess any gun, so if it was an assault rifle that is legal for you and me it would still be considered illegal to the felonious father in this case. Any assault weapon in his possession would be called illegal. Just an additional charge if anything. It's likely that the same model guns or ones nearly identical are being stored legally next door to you. There are still thousands of rounds and hundreds of guns next door to you and down the street. The important fact is that these miscreants are going to pay for their foolish, irresponsible lifestyle and lack of regard for others. They're idiots let them rot in hell!
"It's likely that the same model guns or ones nearly identical are being stored legally next door to you."
Where did you get this preposterous "statistic?"
Melanie -- I'm glad you asked your question. Even those of us who are following this case have a hard time keeping up.
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