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Which city is richest? Depends on how the numbers are run

Original post made on May 23, 2013

Pleasanton came out near the top of a recent list of the wealthiest cities in America.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, May 23, 2013, 7:18 AM

Comments (13)

Posted by Median Joe, a resident of Downtown
on May 23, 2013 at 7:48 am

Great...at least now I can make a plan.
5 years to attain median income in Pleasanton,
10 years to attain median income in Pleasanton,
...and 4 years to attain retirement age.
Plan B anybody?


Posted by Samuel Clemens, a resident of Jensen Tract
on May 23, 2013 at 8:29 am

What a bunch of irrelevant drivel. Lies, damn lies and statistics.


Posted by Arnold, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 23, 2013 at 9:50 am

It would be a terrible tragedy if this wealthy little enclave of paradise were washed away by a tsunami, caused by city workers bilking the residents out of their hard-earned inheritances and investment earnings. But this is exactly what is going to happen unless people wake up. Look at Calpers and Calstrs in order to catch my drift, if you can stay on this wave long enough, which is pretty difficult what with the enormous swells that are occurring, preceding the imminent tsunami, the Big one. Look at the agreement reached the other night with city servants. Our money just swirls around and around, down into the vortex until the tsunami-like maelstrom takes everything away from us. Do the math. I did.


Posted by ACE, a resident of another community
on May 23, 2013 at 12:28 pm

I'm getting sick and F-ing tired hearing all you people, especially Arnold complaining about city workers screwing you over. Reading the comments in here is a JOKE. Everything is compared to outragous stuff. I'm a city employee who doesn't make those high salaries and can't even afford to live in this town. How much are you making a year, maybe you're screwing me over. Your thought is to keep cutting our benefits, right? Ever think what would happen if you keep screwing with people lives? What would your thought be when the city isn't run like it used to be? Kept up like it used to be? Keep taking from employees and they just might take back.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 23, 2013 at 1:06 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

ACE, That is fake Arnold posting. You can tell because s/he uses tsunami in nearly every post.


Posted by Daniel, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 23, 2013 at 1:30 pm

San Ramon beat us??? Darn that evil oil company, Chevron. How dare they provide so many good, high paying middle class jobs!


Posted by Ryan, a resident of Las Positas Garden Homes
on May 23, 2013 at 5:15 pm

Great...now I've attained median income of the city...but still stuck in a townhouse because I don't want to spend $5000.00 in mortgage...Ugh!!! Love the City, but you get what you pay for.


Posted by TA, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 23, 2013 at 6:12 pm

Hey Ace, I think most taxpayers feel screwed by the employees who received a huge unsustainable increase to their retirement benefits based on faulty data by CalPERS that it would not cost us anything and now that we know it was based on bad data (or lying data), the employees say "screw you" to the taxpayers; you can't take away anything given to us; even if it was built upon false assumptions.

As reported last year, the average salary FOR NON-MANAGEMENT and NON-PUBLIC SAFETY city works in Pleasanton is $85K plus a retirement plan mostly paid for by the taxpayers and retiree medical paid for by the taxpayers. Not too shabby. I think most non-city people have Social Security and a 401(k) plan they had to finance themselves, and no retiree medical. It is also very common for employees having to pay a larger share of medical insurance.


Posted by Arnold, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 23, 2013 at 6:45 pm

I agree with you 180 percent, TA. Calpers has been dishonest since it was first established; and Calstrs is just as bad. So are the union leaders. And so are the city politicians who insist there's no need for a Giant dyke to stave off the inevitable Tsunami undertow that will leave no part of California undecimated. How do you like those apples? Well, I'm here to tell you that there isn't an apple on earth that tastes palatable after its roots have been submerged beneath salt water. None of this is palatable. That salty taste in your mouth is just a sea-sprayed prelude to the great gusheroo when the Big tsunami hits and Pleasanton goes bankrupt, only to have to start again with a clean slate. Do the math like I have. It shows dishonesty in this city from top to bottom.

Hi Kathleen. I am the real Arnold, not the fake one. I think the fake one is a secretary or something who's unable to come to grips with his/her own intellectual limitations. Sometimes I use tsunami in my references, because the tsunamicomingtocalifornia.com is the most informative site I've seen.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 23, 2013 at 7:22 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Thanks for proving my point.


Posted by Homer, a resident of Downtown
on May 24, 2013 at 7:45 am

You mean i can't cash in my 800 hours of unused sick pay?


Posted by TA, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 24, 2013 at 9:52 am

Sorry Homer. Only Californians in a public employee union have that benefit. You are probably like me where we can never cash in on our sick time (which was intended to be for people who get sick so they do not loose their pay). For public employees this is a way to 'bank' hours which they receive at their current salary and cash them out at their highest annual salary, and have all those hours count towards their last year salary when calculating their pension. Can you say "SPIKE!"

For those public employees who say this is rare and not something they would do, then change the system to not allow it for anybody. Until then, you are part of the problem.


Posted by ACE, a resident of another community
on May 24, 2013 at 10:08 pm

TA,
As of this new contract, we gave in and will be paying our share of 8% to our retirement, like the citizens wanted. For me that will be another $400.00 less a month that I will have and I don't make anywhere near 85k a year. Also a lot of employees put into their own retirement a 457 (similar to a 401k) which I've been doing from day one. How am I screwing over anyone when I can't even afford to live here? A city that I put so much pride and care into keeping it the way it is. Blame the overpaid 100k + a year people.


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