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Let Them Starve As Punishment: Food Stamps Cut Once Again

Original post made by Freedom, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on May 14, 2013

The Senate Agriculture Committee completed work on the 2013 Farm Bill Tuesday, and took another big whack at food aid, again. They voted to cut the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps, by $4.1 billion.

Thank goodness, that's nothing compared to what the House has in mind: $21 billion in cuts to SNAP. But it's a good start in the right direction. CBPP estimates that cuts as large as what the House is calling for would eliminate food aid to two million people, many families with children and the elderly. Which only means that Democrats will have a lot to whine about as they spin tales about starving, impoverished children.

"We need to teach these women a lesson," stated Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). "They either deplete our valuable national resources by getting abortions, or they have the kids and then plead for food stamps for the kids," Sessions continued. Asked whether he felt a moral compunction to feed America's starving kids, Cruz scoffed. "My only obligation is to fetuses still in the womb; once out, then it's all on the irresponsible harlots who have them."

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on May 14, 2013 at 4:51 pm

watch out...somebody lost her head for saying Let them eat cake!


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Posted by nancy s.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 14, 2013 at 4:53 pm

Freedom. Can you please post a link to the site where you gleened this statement from:

"We need to teach these women a lesson," stated Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). "They either deplete our valuable national resources by getting abortions, or they have the kids and then plead for food stamps for the kids," Sessions continued. Asked whether he felt a moral compunction to feed America's starving kids, Cruz scoffed. "My only obligation is to fetuses still in the womb; once out, then it's all on the irresponsible harlots who have them."

Thank you.


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Posted by Natalie
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on May 14, 2013 at 4:53 pm

It was revealed that the Boston bombing family were receiving food stamps for ten years. The guy in Cincinnati who held three women and a child for ten years was also fraudulently collecting food stamps.

If they would pay attention to fraud and not be afraid to ask questions, we could save billions and perhaps better take care of those in need.

I grocery shop in Hayward sometimes to cut my grocery costs and I see the fraud with my own eyes. Two weeks ago there was a guy in front of me clearly buying packaged items for some sort of convenience store or something who had TWO food stamp cards that he used to pay for everything. Not only was he clearly not buying food for a hungry child or elderly person, he had TWO cards which no person is supposed to have. So he's using food stamp funds to stock his store, selling the items he bought with fraudulent food stamp funds and then probably not paying taxes on all his income since he's selling these items at 100% profit since he didn't pay for them.

A month ago I saw a guy buying steaks and lobster while using a food stamp card. Then there was the woman who bought a ton of alcohol and a carton of cigarettes only to pay for her groceries with food stamps. If she can afford to buy alcohol and cigarettes, she can afford her own groceries. She also had custom painted fingernails, a coach bag and was dressed in designer clothes.

I see it over and over again to the extent that I'm tempted to start a web site with photos of the fraud.

So yes, cut the program again and again and force the government to save money by actually watching and doing something about the fraud. Let's get the funds to who really needs them instead of giving them to criminals and those willing to commit fraud.

And by the way, start drug testing those who receive food stamps. If I have to pass drug tests to work to earn money that helps support those on food stamps, then the recipients should be tested too. I don't want to know that my hard earned tax dollars are buying drugs.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on May 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm

"Let them eat cake." Web Link


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Posted by nancy s.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 15, 2013 at 7:09 am

Glenn. Freedoms wrote his article quoting Cruz. However, no where can i find Cruz ever uttering those statements. why are you letting this post remain?


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Posted by john
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 15, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Nancy,

I think you need to take a chill pill. Since when are you official fact checker for Pleasanton Weekly?


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Posted by nancy s.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm

John, really. Freedom writes an article quoting another person, who never said anything he is being quoted. I would get my post blocked if I called you an idiot, yet Freedom can spew false statements made by public officials? No matter what side of the fence (political spectrum) you fall on, the "comments" supposedly made my Ted Cruz are offensive. especially "My only obligation is to fetuses still in the womb; once out, then it's all on the irresponsible harlots who have them."

Let's see if this gets deleted. John and Freedom are both idiots


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Posted by Burton
a resident of Downtown
on May 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Apparently Marie Antoinette never said 'Let them eat cake.' Perhaps therefore we should censor all literature that references Marie and her nonquote? Nancy ... your name has the same number of letters as another censor-obsessed one who once frequented these sites. She too was humorless and insisted that everyone write the way she did. Any relation, Nancy? Any like really, really close relation? Uh-huh.


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Posted by nancy s.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 15, 2013 at 8:54 pm

Burton. I have been posting here for years, i am a registered user and no there is no relation to anyone else. I dont have a problem with people posting their opinions, however when they put word in peoples mouths for effect, it just doesnt cut it. Ted Cruz never uttered the words Freedom is quoting him as saying. Terrible reporting. Like no facts in evidence.


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Posted by Freedom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 15, 2013 at 10:33 pm

Hiya Nancy,

I obviously don't have the zeal you do to systematically "factcheck" a couple of quotes that I've attributed to Ted Cruz. So I'll have to defer to your zeal, or obsessiveness, or whatever it is that drives you to undertake your extensive investigations. I must tell you that I employ the very standards used by such esteemed news outlets as Weasel Zippers, Brietborde, Fox News, Drudge, Blade, CBN, and Washington Times, all of which, in my humble opinion, put freedom above all else, even occasionally truth.

But I am curious. What about Ted Cruz's (purported) statements in quotation marks do you find objectionable? Are you saying that the (purported) statements in quotation marks do not mesh with his widely stated world view? Which ones, specifically, and what criteria is informing your judgment?

And about the data I've provided? Are you saying that it is incorrect?

I remain yours ever so truly, and always in struggle against the forces of tyranny (to wit: our Dear Leader Obama and his legions of enforcers),

Signed: Freedom




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Posted by freedom from reality
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2013 at 9:44 am

"a couple of quotes that I've attributed to Ted Cruz" No, you just made them up. Maybe in your mom's basement in Berkeley where you are posting from, this type of slander is acceptable, especially if it's attributed to someone to the right of Bill Ayers.
I would hope that the PW had some minimal standards, but it's apparent that leftist dolts will take advantage of the lack of oversight on this forum, not unlike the lack of oversight currently being uncovered in our current regime in D.C.
Since posters who can see through your agenda can't have your lies removed, look forward to future topics spamming this forum with imaginary quotes from such lofty dignitaries as obami, our AG, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the leftist three ring circus.


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Posted by facts are facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2013 at 10:23 am

freedoms original post leaves a couple of important facts out. SNAP costs were $30 billion in 2007, to $74.6 billion in 2012. From 2007-2012, benefits paid to program recipients increased by approximately 20% annually.

To cut $4.1 billion from the program (over 10 years), would not be an actual cut.
Even the House proposal, $21 billion over 10 years, is not an actual cut. It is $2.1 billion a year for 10 years, less than the planned increase.

Further facts, there is an estimated 1% rate of trafficking, selling SNAP benefits to food retailers for cash. The GAO further estimates 4% of SNAP payments are in error. Cleaning up 5% of the cost of waste, fraud and abuse of SNAP would save $3.8 billion a year, roughly equal to the amount of proposed "cuts"

Further fact is that freedom, the original poster, created a completely false quote attributed to Ted Cruz.

Web Link
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Posted by Freedom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2013 at 3:36 pm

"To cut $4.1 billion from the program would not be an actual cut." No, on "facts are facts'" reasoning, it would actually be an increase. Because, you see, cuts are cuts only when they go back to pre-Civil Rights laws levels.

"Cleaning up" ... yeah, with no acknowledgement how much it would cost to place little surveillance cams on each recipient's head. Rather than "cleaning up", how about raising minimum wage so that more and more people (e.g., the 1.6 million Walmart workers) are not forced to resort to the stamps? Or, put more accurately, so that tax payers aren't required to supplement Walmart's wages so that the Waltons can continue to extract 100s of billions off the backs of tax payers and workers.

Nobody has disproven the Cruz's quoted statements. Next best thing: Please explain why Cruz would not have said those things. Do they not represent his thinking on these matters? How so?


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Posted by facts are facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm

So 'freedom' calls for an increase of the minimum wage to a living wage. Ironic.
The only thing 'freedom' wishes for is freedom from personal responsibility.


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Posted by Freedom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2013 at 7:14 pm

You haven't addressed my above questions, so I doubt you'll address this one, but I'll ask anyway.

Why is it ironic to call for a higher minimum wage, one that would enable men and women to support their families without dependence on food stamps?


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Posted by Freedom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 17, 2013 at 6:20 am

If the Republicans can alter the texts of those with whom they disagree, why can't we all? For after all, if we are serious about fighting the forces of tyranny, lying on all levels should be permitted. The important thing is to seize power, irrespective of means by which to do so, which is something the Republicans have been stressing now for some time.

One day after The White House released 100 pages of Benghazi emails, a report has surfaced that establishes that Republicans released a set with altered text.

CBS News reported Thursday that leaked versions sent out by the GOP last Friday had visible differences than Wednesday's official batch. Two correspondences that were singled out in the report came from National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes and State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

The GOP version of Rhodes' comment, according to CBS News: "We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine the FBI investigation."

The White House email: "We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation."

The GOP version of Nuland's comment, according to CBS News: The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda's presence and activities of al-Qaeda."

The White House email: "The penultimate point could be abused by members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings."



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