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Review: 'Lincoln'

Original post made on Nov 20, 2012

To many, British-born actor Daniel Day-Lewis represents the pinnacle of thespian prowess. Director Steven Spielberg is considered among Hollywood's best and has the Oscar gold to back it up. And Abraham Lincoln is one of the most important figures in U.S. history.

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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 8:58 am

At least this remains historically accurate. Given Hollywood's liberal retellings of history, I thought this would have an African American character who convinces Lincoln that slavery was wrong and to end it - and that it was Republicans who were for it, and Democrats who were against it.

I hope people will realize the Democrat party's tradition of wanting to keep African Americans enslaved - in chains and by law centuries ago - and today dependent on gub'mint housing and "da welfare."


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 20, 2012 at 9:43 am

Yes, it's amazing how far the Republican Party has drifted from Lincoln's legacy. Fortunately, the Democratic Party, led by John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, was there to reclaim Lincoln's legacy and extend it. And the Republicans? Locked away in Southern Red State illusions of white supremacy.


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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm

Yes--the same Democrat party of FDR who thought it was a good idea to put American Citizens in camps because they were of Japanese ancestry. Don't worry - Obama agrees with that too and it's only a matter of time before conservatives are sent to the FEMA death-camps for disagreeing with the president and not surrendering their guns and bowing to a UN controlled one-world gub'mint.


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Posted by Peacenik
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 3:36 pm

Election's over, guys...
Lincoln's story was that of a nation divided-- you all seem to be missing the entire message behind the movie.


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Posted by Chas
a resident of Avila
on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm

Japanese in internment camps? Yes, and where was the clamor of discontent from the Republicans when that policy was instituted?

Wm Tell, do you even know who Wm Tell is? If your paranoid delusions are true, I think maybe someone close to you should help you get some assistance. And you've got a gun? [Excuse me while I shudder.]

Oh, and Lincoln was very influenced by the words of Frederick Douglass, one of America's greatest heroes (and who, by the way, was African American).


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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 21, 2012 at 6:20 am

@ "Chas" - yes there was clamor from a Republican Governor of Colorado who actually embraced his states rights and decided to treat Japanese Americans as Citizens. Why don't you "Google" Ralph Carr?

As for the historical William Tell (no relation) you mention, he was a freedom fighter against tyranny. I guess I was appropriately named because I try to fight the tyranny of the left and liberal facist thinking.

And yes, while Lincoln may have been "influenced" by Frederick Douglas, what he really thought of African Americans was espoused during one of his famous debates with Stephen Douglas (no relation) on September 18, 1958. Here it is:

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the White and black races, (Applause) - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurers of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, not to intermarry with White people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the White and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on equal terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the White race..."

If you want to learn some real history based on facts, you're welcome to join my home-schooling sessions with my young children. I know the moderator of this board seems to think it's okay for people to personally attack me - so I'm sure your post will stay up. These historical words of a president may be deemed "inappropriate" - so we'll see how long it stays up.


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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 21, 2012 at 6:21 am

Correction to the above post - September 18, 1858.


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Posted by Chas
a resident of Avila
on Nov 21, 2012 at 8:05 am

Wm Tell is yet another victim of selective, self-serving thinking. Managed to find a single Republican (who wouldn't be elected as such today), who was opposed to internment of Japanese citizens. Then he shows himself oblivious to how Lincoln's thinking evolved while he was in the White House. Evolved? I guess here I'm engaging in what garbage mouthed Wm Tell would say is "liberal fascist thinking." Clear demonstration that wm tell knows nothing about either liberalism or fascism. Oh well, garbage in, garbage out. Back to wikipedia to find additional ditties to be put into the service of hate.

Home schooling, eh? Yeah, I bet parents are just tripping all over themselves to put their kids in the same room with Wm Tell where he can tell them about white superiority and explore the liberal fascism question.


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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 21, 2012 at 9:14 am

@Chas - Are you sure Lincoln's thinking "evolved?" Basically, he wanted to win re-election, so he pandered to the ultra-liberal northerners who were proponents of universal suffrage. Fredrick Douglas, the Al Sharpton-esque agitator of his day was in no way a "magic negro" who influenced his thinking. Much like abolishing slavery, all that Lincoln did was politically calculated. But that being said - it was still Southern Democrats who were against abolishing slavery, and the party of interning American citizens. You can't change history - not with revisionist films, or editing a Wikipedia entry.

Personally, I think African Americans should have the right to vote - though given the crime statistics, if you liberals are going to unconstitutionally breach anyone's 2nd amendment rights - that's the racial group I would start with. But we need do need to stop Section 8 housing, subsidized school breakfast, lunch and dinner, "da WIC", and "da welfare" in general.

Lincoln actually abolished slavery because it hurt the poor white working class the most. Welfare programs accomplish the same thing - taxing poor whites and giving them a lower standard of living while they're actually working. Meanwhile, welfare recipients live "high on the hog" with plenty of spare time to sell drugs and commit crimes to supplement their income.


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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:29 am

@ Chas - by the way - are you a man, woman or "other"? I would just like to know whom I'm debating.


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Posted by Chas
a resident of Avila
on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:44 am

You're a very sick man, Wm Tell. Thank you for further elaborating. You need help, and lots of it. I hope you have an insurance policy that might cover your need for psychiatric therapy. Hate issues are cluttering your head. You're unable to think straight. I can't emphasize this enough. Please stay away from children.

I will not tell you my sex or gender. I'm afraid of you.


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Posted by William Tell
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 21, 2012 at 10:57 am

@ Chas - I don't understand your fear of me - I'm not the one trying to take away your constitutional rights. You're in the party of, and have the mindset of - people who want to take away mine. You hate that which you don't agree with and feel the need to insult instead of putting together cogent counter-arguments. I may disagree with you, but I'll defend to the death your right to have your liberal viewpoints - even if they are counter-constitutional and facist.

As for whether or not you're a man or woman - the fact that stated, "my sex OR gender" means my suspicions are most likely true. I'll just have to put you down as "other."


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