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Occupiers march to Castlewood Country Club

Original post made on Mar 2, 2012

Between 300 and 350 people turned out for last weekend's Occupy Pleasanton event to protest the lockout of workers from Castlewood Country Club, now in its second year.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, March 2, 2012, 12:00 AM

Comments (13)

Posted by Larry Ferderber, a resident of Rosepointe
on Mar 2, 2012 at 9:24 am

Foster's comments on health care indicate that there is room for the Club to move toward the Union position and toward the norm for local country clubs, at no net cost, by raising the benefits for families and lowering them for singles. Furthermore, if the Union position is not already at the top of the local market as Forster states ("higher than most" is not the highest) then there is also room to try to find middle ground between the Club's and Union's positions and still stay competitive. After two years of stasis it seems like it is time to actively seek a solution to this costly impasse.


Posted by mike, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Larry,

After two years of openly trying to subvert the efforts of the board and the majority of the membership I wish you would get another hobby.


Posted by Arroyo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 4, 2012 at 1:33 pm

@Mike

Well put...!!


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Mar 4, 2012 at 8:13 pm

Am I understanding this: "by raising the benefits for families and lowering them for singles." Sacrifice one part of the union membership in favor of another part of the union membership?


Posted by Tammy Nelson, a resident of Avila
on Mar 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm

We're supposedly one nation under god, but people with families get tax breaks. I guess a labor union might be criticized for raising benefits for families and lowering them for singles if, as Kathleen Ruegspicker believes, unions operate according to strict Stalinist principles.


Posted by Larry Ferderber, a resident of Rosepointe
on Mar 5, 2012 at 8:16 am

Progressive health care management has everyone paying some percentage of their health care costs, no free rides. The CCC plan (for non bargaining unit employees today and proposed for bargaining unit employees in the future) gives a free ride to single coverage employees. A move toward say 80% employer paid and 20% employee paid would both be better in terms of cost control and free up funds to cover more of the family benefits. Better benefits for employees with families is in CCC's best long-term interest in that employees with families are a more stable/reliable workforce. There is opportunity to move toward common ground on health care to the benefit of both sides.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Mar 5, 2012 at 8:50 am

Larry, While your response raises a lot of questions for me, I appreciate the reasoned response.

Tammy, we weren't one nation "under god" until 1954. I'll let you search for the rest of that history lesson.


Posted by Tammy Nelson, a resident of Avila
on Mar 5, 2012 at 9:01 am

When the Union defeated the Confederacy we were brought into a more perfect union. Save the God lesson for Sunday school. Signed by a citizen of the UNITED States. Now, about these unfair tax breaks for families .... Surely as Kathlenn Rugsuggger says we can't expect unions to operate on the same principle! That would be contrary to unions' Stalinesque way of operating. We're all individuals.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Mar 5, 2012 at 9:07 am

List the unfair tax breaks for families for me Tammy.


Posted by Tammy Nelson, a resident of Avila
on Mar 5, 2012 at 9:37 am

Well, because we are a nation of individuals, not a united nation, then of course ALL tax breaks for families are tyrannical. It advantages one group over those individuals who desire to remain childless. Tax breaks for families are bad, really really bad. If they can't afford to have kids without tax breaks, they shouldn't have kids. Period. It's the libertarian principle I share with Kathleen Rugesiggir.

And because we are a nation of individuals, unions are bad, really really bad. Because they are expressions of individuals organizing themselves in order to improve all kinds of namby-pamby ideals like workplace safety, collective bargaining, right to grieve, a fair wage for a fair day's work, and other socialist claptrap. Also, as Kathleen Rigsugger has told us many times, if you disagree with them they might poop in your car or write letters.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Mar 5, 2012 at 11:01 am

Gollum, you haven't made a good point under any name you used so far. This has just MOTS as Tammy. Like most things, married vs. single isn't black and white:

Web Link


Posted by Tammy Nelson, a resident of Avila
on Mar 5, 2012 at 11:58 am

There's good old Kathleen what's her name, always quick to accuse and judge others, even when the point they make is in line with hers. Probably didn't have time for a well thought out response because she's cleaning out her car, or she couldn't find a link for 'well thought out response'.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Mar 5, 2012 at 1:13 pm

We aren't in alignment. The link shows the tax disadvantages of being married with children over being single. It also shows a slight advantage of being married and childless over being single. I suppose I could find the tax tables so you could noodle out the info on your own, but I'll let you look for that link on your own. Anyway, way off topic. Start another one if you want to spend more time twisting in the breeze.


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