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Prove Me Wrong: Obama's Goals and the CPUSA's are one in the same...

Original post made by Curious on Jan 2, 2012

I challenge any Democrat to spell out how Obama's and the Congressional Democrats' goals are any different from the Communist Party USA's.

Here is a link to the CPUSA's Constitution >>> Web Link

Also, the SEIU and "Occupy Movement," supported philosophically and financially by the Obama Administration (e.g. George Soros, ACORN, etc.) has the same goals as well.

I am open to learn how the CPUSA's goals differ from the above.

Comments (35)

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jan 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm

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Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jan 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm

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Posted by Grady, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 2, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Yep, Cholo, even in Pleasanton. And wouldn't ya just know that the KKKer 'Curious' is unable to distinguish between moderate democratic policies and those advocated by the CPUSA. The level of stupidity is, well, stupifyingly remarkable.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jan 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm

An article from 2009 from another fringe website, oh, it must be something to fear. If you feel the Dems policies of the owebama administration are moderate , than you must be the extremist/commie. Once again, cholo and his compadres can't defend but deflect in vain. Weak and pathetic defense of your ilk.....


Posted by ?, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 2, 2012 at 6:10 pm

"On Sunday, I was listening to Brian Copeland on his regular Sunday morning talk show on KGO radio...He contended this hysteria represented a growing atmosphere of hate and racism in our society--sparked by some people's resentment about a black man being in office."

Cholo, Brian Copeland - really? Maybe people aren't that excited about the direction President Obama is taking this country. Have you considered that?


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jan 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm

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Posted by Oh Mom, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 2, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Grady, ?,

Don't pay any attention to Cholo. Whoever, or whatever it is has no business on planet earth. It lives to stir the pot, to be contrary. Cholo's Mothership abandoned it here.....refusing to beam it back up. Perhaps we will all get lucky and Cholo will get arrested in an Occupy sweep and admitted to a mental health facility or sent back to outer space on the next satellite launch.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Curious,

It's intellectually tiring to try to discern what point you're trying to make. Do your readers a favor and write something a little more illustrative than a link to CPUSA's Constitution and a blanket statement about Democrats, SEIU, Occupy, Soros, and Obama.


Posted by A Neighbor, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 2, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Stacey, you are my hero, always in pursuit of rationality and accountability on a local basis. No small feat. Keep fighting the good fight in the New Year.

And Oh Mom, DO pay attention to Cholo if you want to learn something. Follow the links, read between the lines, the sarcasm and the puns - there is a basic, raw and unmannerly sort brilliance there that you are underestimating. Did you ever have a college professor who berated the class for not thinking for themselves after an amazing lecture in which he/she answered none of your weak sophomoric questions? Yeah. Meet Professor Cholo.


Posted by Toni, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jan 3, 2012 at 12:33 am

I agree with Stacey that there is something key to Curious's post. I mean, hey, Obama wasn't born an American, he's a muslim,and he hates Christmas. Have you ever heard him criticize the godless, corrupt teacher unions that are responsible for this great recession?

Your points are valid Curious. Like Stacey says, just provide some additional illustration and you'll be fine. There's plenty to use against the Kenyan, anticolonist, commie owebama one.


Posted by Dan, a resident of California Somerset
on Jan 3, 2012 at 7:36 am

I'm not understanding the references to the KKK and other racist stuff. The original post is saying that the Communist Party of the USA has similar interests as Obama and the Democrat Party, and I absolutely agree with him! We are in very deep trouble as a nation, and to see things happening at the hands of Obama and the Dem's (and the RINO's) is sickening. We are losing our Republic, and I don't know what to do about it any more. It keeps me up at night.


Posted by judy, a resident of Del Prado
on Jan 3, 2012 at 9:22 am

I also agree but I believe the November Elections will be about weather the United State will remain a Captitalistic Country or weather we will turn to Socialism! Everyone Vote. If its Socialism send your payroll check, if you have one, to the government.


Posted by Fair is Fair, a resident of Mission Park
on Jan 3, 2012 at 9:22 am

Is Toni serious? For the sake of this country's future, I hope she is being satirical in her comments (e.g., that President Obama hates Christmas, is Muslim and isn't American).
The sad thing is that regardless of whether Toni is serious, there are many who believe that stuff... they hold signs at the Tea Party rallys or are named Donald Trump. I have nothing against political debate (it's the foundation of how our country can have peaceful administrative transistions every 4/8 years), but I get nauseated when I hear/read the same ridiculous, ignorant comments like these. What is just as disturbing to me is how so many of these comments deal with the religious beliefs of our President...LIKE THAT MATTERS! When I vote, I'm not voting for my religious leader or based on what church/synagogue/mosque/etc he walks into once a week. They do that in Iran and Iraq, so are these people saying we should do the same when we elect our president.
Thomas Jefferson was practically atheist and wanted the framing of our government to be atheist, as well. He saw the evils that religion could inflict on politics and leaders' decision making. Let's wake up, America, and use our heads.


Posted by Oh Mom, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 3, 2012 at 9:57 am

"A Neighbor" and "Cholo" the same person, perhaps?

Cholo is clearly a disassociated personality. Some good days....but mostly bad, frequently posting totally unsequiential rants that one would hear in a mental health facility or on the streets of a large city amongst the homeless. I am sure the vicious comments are heading my way, but I do not care.


Posted by Toni, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jan 3, 2012 at 10:57 am

Dear 'Oh Mom',

I too am against 'totally unsequiential rants'. It's easier just to impugn Cholo's character as you have done with your two contributions to this post. Great job!

Yes, there ARE people who believe that Obama is an illegal immigrant, a godless muslim, and against Christmas. He's been waging war against Christians since he came into office. There are also people like Stacey, Dan, Curious and me who believe he is a communist. And I'm not talking about the communism that Christ embraced -- giving all those loaves and fishes to anyone who stood in line, I mean, c'mon! And angrily chasing the money lenders out of the temple. Boy oh boy! Of course Christ hadn't yet read Milton Friedman, so we can forgive him for his anti-capitalist tantrums.

No, I'm talking about Marxist communism, where public grade school teachers wage an educational revolution that makes students turn to drugs and against their parents while also increasing teacher pension allotments. Name one time where Obama has criticized public school teachers for being communists. See what I mean? I hope this illustration suffices. The proof is in the pudding.


Posted by AnnaS, a resident of Foothill High School
on Jan 3, 2012 at 11:20 am

Since democratic party of USA did not accept (at least yet) the principle of "democratic centralism" which is the base principle of all communist and fascist parties, I don't think that comparing CPUSA's Constitution with democrats is relevant.
However, it would be nice to get answers for a few questions:
- What is the difference between "Redistribution of wealth" and "Rob the Robbers"?
- According to the latest polls, the most favorable results show 49% of approval of Obama's policies. Does it mean that 51% of Americans belong to KKK? Web Link
- In any country where people are free to have their own opinion it is almost impossible to find a topic where 99% of entire population agree with each others. As far as I remember, 99% voted for L.I.Brezhnev in USSR, and in 2002, 99.96% supported Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Why, if back then, Americans didn't consider 99% as serious numbers but should consider them seriously today?


Posted by hoops, a resident of Mohr Park
on Jan 3, 2012 at 2:04 pm

People are crazy.Obama is a communist,dems are communist...they want to destroy America and turn it into a socialist state.What truly rational intelligent person can honestly believe that b.s.I am so tired of listening to all of the hate and ridiculous b.s. from both sides.Do you actually believe Rush Limb believes everything he spits out on the radio.I believe he is feeding his sheep and laughing all the way to his very large bank acct.There is an honest disagreement on how involved the gov't should be in our lives but there is more b.s than real differences with the exception of the lunatic fringe.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jan 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm

How can President Obama be illegal. He came out of his mom's womb just like most other folks...unless of course, a few of your were hatched. just sayin'...


Posted by Dan, a resident of California Somerset
on Jan 4, 2012 at 6:43 am

Toni--We are with you!!! It is becoming more and more difficult these days to stand up for what's right. Us on the right, we are vilified and attacked constantly for our beliefs. It's sickening to me, because our beliefs are very simple, they are common sense, and we want ALL people to be happy. But we see what is happening in this world and in this country, and we see what Obama and the Democrats are doing to us---they are destroying us. Bit by bit, every day, they are taking away our liberties and moving towards tyranny.

Obamacare is the crown jewel of Socialism. Once the government has control of our health care, they have TOTAL control over us. In the name of health, they will dictate what we eat, what cars we drive, what homes we buy, where our power comes from, the list is ENDLESS. Us on the right--we see this, and we understand this. And standing up for what we believe in and what we KNOW is right is becoming more and more difficult as people become brainwashed with a "hopey changey" president like Obama. I don't know if he does not meet the criteria for becoming president, and that is very disturbing. We should KNOW that he is qualified--there shouldn't be any questions about where he came from or where he was born. But these questions are still up in the air! We don't know how he got through very prestigious and EXPENSIVE universities---who paid for his education??? He won't release that information, so we have no idea. Was he an "affirmative action" student who was given handouts, or did someone foot the bill for him? We have no idea---he won't release the information! He won't release his grades, he won't release his transcripts, and we know almost NOTHING about this guy that people have fallen in love with. We barely know anything about his past, but the very little that we do know about is very disturbing. His 20+ year relationship with Rev. Wright---Wright is an America-hating black liberation theology preacher, and Obama is part of this. Obama began his political career in the living room of two admitted domestic terrorists!

I feel like I'm pounding my head against the wall, because liberals just brush this stuff off like it's "no big deal". I am witnessing my country deteriorate and transform into Socialism, and nobody seems to care. That is shocking.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 4, 2012 at 8:29 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Obama is a centrist lacking leadership skills. I've never referred to him as a communist or socialist. Obamacare is not socialism. It's an idea thought up by conservatives.

I too am tired of the Obama is communist/Dems are communist posts just as I'm tired of the Republicans are KKK posts. The reason they continue is because people do believe such BS.


Posted by Ray, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2012 at 8:49 am

From the CPUSA web site... "Only through the abolition of the capitalist system and the socialist reorganization of society can exploitation of human beings by others, and the evils of oppression, war, racism, environmental degradation, and poverty be ended. We seek to build a socialist society which puts people and nature before profits."

In reviewing the Democratic Party Platform from 2008 (which I have read before...), I can see no call for the abolition of capitalism... Seems like a significant difference to me.


Posted by Saddle River, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 4, 2012 at 9:21 am

One needs to read the original comment by Curious that challenges "any Democrat to spell out how Obama's and the Congressional Democrats' goals are any different from the Communist Party USA's." Curious is refering to the Congressional Democrats, not "all Democrats" has many here have jumped to defend. Also, Toni and I could be great friends.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 4, 2012 at 9:48 am

Stacey is a registered user.

In other words, Curious leaves it up to the readers to figure out what the heck Curious wants readers to take away from reading Curious' post. What are Obama's and Congressional Democrats' goals that are supposedly not any different from CPUSA's goals? Why do readers have to wade through reading CPUSA's long constitution in order to dig up the goals that Curious thinks are the same as that of Obama and Congressional Democrats? Prove him wrong? He didn't even prove anything right.


Posted by Toni, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jan 4, 2012 at 10:29 am

Stacey, please quit your 'totally unsequiential rants' and admit that you're with us, Dan, Curious, Oh Mom, AnnaS, and all the other stand-up people of P-town who stand on the right side of Capitalism against the evil (and dark) forces of undocumented Communism. You've come too far with your stated beliefs to abandon us at this great apocalyptic juncture where Marxism in our very own government must be vanguished by Capitalism's better angels. Santorum says it best, no hand-outs to black people, and no more affirmative action presidents. I mean, to think this president went to college and law school on my dime just makes my blood boil. Profits shall prevail!


Posted by Anti-union, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2012 at 10:33 am

Of course SEIU and all unions are about surrendering your personal rights to a leader who will equalize all,in the name of protecting you i.e. communism and socialism. All become the median, slakers win, qualified lose and eventually fall to the universal middle...That is until those previous producers say WTF, lay back. No rewards.
Cholo is in his 'talkative' cycle, so he can't help it. Besides, he doesn't want you to exercise your right to speak on a subject HE doesn't want discussed. After all, it is all about him, all the time.


Posted by SCUBAMom, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jan 4, 2012 at 2:56 pm

If someone was not born in the USA, they would not be the president. I have a lot of respect for our president and I think Congress aka The Party Of No, is just trying to make him look bad. I'm tired of people sticking up for millionaires and Wall street. The last president we had was friends with so many rich people that he couldn't see through the fog. He sent trillions of dollars to the middle east for a war against weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. Regarding communism, I wish the people who are comparing democrats to communists would take a political science class at the Community College so they would know what they are talking about.


Posted by Steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jan 4, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Scuba, the occupant of the white house does not need anyone else to make him look bad........that's one of his few accomplishments. Other than that, what stands out on his record?
Owebama is in the pocket of many rich people, otherwise he would have. Never been elected. For example, George Soros, the Hollywood left (sorry, that was redundant), all labor unions, banks, foreign investors, etc. I'm not sure you want to go there.....he who helped support the so called 99%, is part of the 1%, but that's no surprise.......he's also a hypocrite.


Posted by Patirot, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2012 at 10:20 pm

".. is in the pocket of many rich people" People forget that some of Obama biggest campaign contributions came from Wall Street. He is a hypocrite.

Web Link


Posted by Jorge, a resident of Rosewood
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:37 am

American Politics 101, folks. Wall Streeters and other corps always hedge their bets and give campaign donations to both major party candidates. Ask yourself, however, whether they wouldn't rather see McCain or some other fascist puppet in the White House. And while you're asking that, contemplate Obama's recent recess appointment of Cordray as Consumer Chief, which has all the Republicans apoplectic with righteous indignation -- to think that Wall Street should have to answer to oversight!

Patirot and Streve are complete fools. They don't read and they don't know how to think.


Posted by Melissa V, a resident of Las Positas
on Jan 5, 2012 at 8:26 am

Toni = The poster child of disgust, hatred and racism! I'm so happy not all of Pleasanton is like you. If this country was run by the likes of you, we'd all be back in 1950s segregation and ignorance. Maybe you should go back there. I feel sad for you, more than anything else.
Thank goodness for internet blogs - opens the lines for all people to be racist & ignorant anonymously!


Posted by Toni, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jan 5, 2012 at 10:25 am

What's wrong with being back in the 1950s? As a matter of fact, we stay in Pleasanton because it reminds us of that nice time in our history. It's one of the few places in California that remains segregated from the Oakland-based riff-raff. You may call us racists all you want, but good people like AnnaS, Dan, Stacey, Oh Mom and me want money to stay in our own pockets, not feeding the gambling and drinking habits of the inferior among us and driving the ethics of our grand community down into the drain.


Posted by SCUBAMom, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:22 pm

Regarding the inferior of us, you are inferior because you don't understand that alcoholism is a medical condition. You probably don't know this either, but there are kids on heroin in Pleasanton. It never appears in the paper, but some of us actually know what's going on, unlike you. On another note, I notice that when people rant and rave about our president, what they say usually ends up being inaccurate. Some people just like to rant, rave, and slam people, even if they don't know the facts, they will make something up. I'm getting really tired of these people. Alot of your money went to Iraq by the way, a lot of your money, before Mr. Obama became our President.


Posted by Toni, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Speaking for myself, I've never touched a drop of alcohol in my life. But it's people like SCUBAMom who are bringing this country down. We have a really nice community here in Pleasanton. There are very few poor people and very few black or hispaniac people. We like it that way. That's why we came here. Then there's people like SCUBAMom who wants to wage class warfare. She doesn't get that it's better for white wealthy folks and poor minority folks to keep separated. In peace. Not in class warfare. There is a natural order of things, like hard work and deserving to live apart from Oakland's rejects, and wanting otherwise is just to invite class warfare like the marxists wanted back when the Constitution was written.


Posted by steve, a resident of Parkside
on Jan 5, 2012 at 4:07 pm

scuba---I'm still trying to figure out why you feel you need to defend Obama. His rich donors will no doubt do that for him. Are you a rich donor, too? Did you look at the link Patriot provided above, or do you think that's made up, as well?
In any case, he can't run on his record of accomplishments, so it'll be interesting to see what he does with all that donor money. Maybe he'll purchase Hawaii....


Posted by SCUBAMom, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jan 5, 2012 at 4:14 pm

OK, there are some ignorant people writing on this website. I'm not rich. I'm not waging warfare. I'm not prejudice. I just know the facts. I have a lot of respect for our president. That is all I'm going to say.


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