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Amador kids need training on red lights

Original post made by Red means stop even for you on Nov 9, 2011

Since when do pedestrians (including Amador Valley Cross country team members) have the right a way when they have the red light? last I checked pedestrians (including the special athletes from a local downtown high school) do NOT have the right away when they have the red light at the corner of Main@Ray. I had the green light driving and this runner from amador had the red light, she told me as I drove thru the crosswalk she has the right away since she was a pedestrian. WTF? my light was GREEN hers was RED. are all kids at Amador color blind or just plain stupid when it comes to traffic laws.

Comments (19)

Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 9, 2011 at 11:44 pm

I believe that pedestrians have crosswalk right-of-way at intersections not controlled by llights, regardless of whether a crosswalk is painted or not. However, at lighted intersections I'm pretty sure that everyone, motorists and pedestrians, are supposed to obey the lights. Otherwise, it's chaos.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 10, 2011 at 12:25 am

Stacey is a registered user.

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"No pedestrian may suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard."

"Subdivision (b) does not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection. "


Posted by Mom, a resident of Foothill High School
on Nov 10, 2011 at 8:05 am

As the parent of a cross country runner I think your concerns should be communicated to the school/coach, not the gossip column. This is a safety issue that needs to be addressed with the runners.


Posted by Don, a resident of Ironwood
on Nov 10, 2011 at 8:51 am

As a school crossing guard, I see a lot everyday happening that is very dangerous. Whenever anyone is in the crosswalk, that means kids and adults, even if they have crossed out of the way of your side of the street, you must wait for them to reach the sidewalk. People that run the crosswalks after people are out of their way are breaking the law. You never know what a child will do if he sees a friend coming, as they may want to return to walk with them. The simple rule is whenever the crossing guard is in the crosswalk anywhere, you must stop & wait for the guard to be out of the crosswalk. DO NOT FOLLOW THE CROSSING GUARD OUT WITH YOUR CAR AND WAIT. That poses another danger if you get hit and your car get pushed into the pedestrians.


Posted by resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 10, 2011 at 9:36 am

Kids in Pleasanton need to know how to cross streets, etc. It is not just the Amador kids.

I see this girl on a bike along Black Avenue every day, and it is an accident waiting to happen. She does not stop at the stop signs, suddenly rides in front of cars. I am afraid one day she will have an accident. Drive carefully on Black Ave, and if any of you know this girl, please let her parents know that their daughter's careless behavior can result in an accident.


Posted by to: Red Means Stop, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 10, 2011 at 10:01 am

You have a legitmate complaint regarding the Amador XC team-- you should take it to Jason Oswalt, the coach. He's a good guy and will say something to his athletes.


Posted by reasonable, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 10, 2011 at 10:17 am

Just yesterday I missed my entire green light (that would be the CAR's turn to go) because a group of high school kids decided to cross the street on the red light.

It may legally be the car's responsibility to allow any and all pedestrians to cross anytime they wish, but how about teaching our kids consideration for others? Yes, that includes consideration for drivers who would like to continue on their way, and respect for the red lights/ green lights that allow everyone a turn?


Posted by me, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 10, 2011 at 10:37 am

I agree with reasonable above. Walkers should be considerate of those waiting to to turn by 1.) Crossing in a timely manner (not sauntering and talking and doing whatever). and 2.) Not starting after across after the Do not cross sign has come up.

I think Pleasanton is confusing. The walk signal should only come up when no traffic has the right of way. At dusk/dawn it can be hard to see someone who is crossing when they have the walk signal but the driver also has a green light for a turn. This is especially true at major intersections...like Stoneridge or when the pedestrian is in dark colors.


Posted by Red means stop even for you, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 10, 2011 at 11:50 am

thank you and I am on the phone right now to Jason-no school but hopefully his voice mail isn't full.
I do not understand how the post by "me" says P-town is confusing with the walk signal lights. I don't find them confusing at all.

As for the first person to respond "Sam", this had nothing to do with an uncontrolled intersection w/o a crosswalk. this was right downtown next to the Rose Hotel-I had the green light she had the red light.


Posted by Jason Oswalt, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Nov 10, 2011 at 1:59 pm

Thank you for your concerns. They will be addressed at practice today. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Jason Oswalt
Amador Valley Cross Country


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 10, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Oh, oh. Problem solved. Now we all have to go find something else to complain about.

:-(


Posted by Red means stop even for you, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 12, 2011 at 7:11 pm

Thank you Jason. It is for the kids safety too.


Posted by Red means stop even for you, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 12, 2011 at 11:04 pm

for Sam;
lets complain about the city street department-I truly believe they should NOT allow parking on city streets (W. Angela, Harrison, Augustine etc) doing events that draw a large amount of people such as the Good Guys. they don't allow it during the fair and the Good gus and other big events-people don't care how they park-they block driveways and park blocking crosswalks etc-

comments?

I will respond


Posted by Dead Right, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 12, 2011 at 11:46 pm

I have little tolerance for the 'defiant' ones, i.e. teens who know better but don't give a sxxx.. And to the ones who don't know better, they should be taught to practice personal safety in showers and roadways, and first and foremost, learn that a red light facing them means STOP. period. Walking, running, or driving, a red light means STOP.
This is the result of teaching them they are so 'special' the world stops for them...the real world does not stop for them. Irresponsible parents have told them '' it' OK, by LAW cars must stop for you....
WRONG, they could wind up dead, if they are facing a red light.
Sad for parents who make them dead right. They can be dead right, but still dead. They should taught personal survival safety skills, i.e. basic common sense,which includes stopping at red lights.
Like uncle sam pointing....This means YOU !


Posted by fed up, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2011 at 1:03 pm

already addressed the city about the parking on streets near the fair during fair events. Seems it would cost too much for them to post no parking signs and monitor the streets when they have an event. Sooo, I guess that is just something we all have to put up with. I agree with you, people are just rude, inconsiderate and downright nasty. They come into our town and park in our driveways, dump garbage onto our lawns, streets, sidewalks and use our streets and lawns as toilets too!!! Yes I have watched this many times, Actually thinking about getting a good video cam and taking pics of them in action and posting it on the web. Perhaps that would get the city to do something about it or not. Just an idea.


Posted by Dead Right, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2011 at 4:47 pm

fed up, aka excuses, the fair was over in July. This if Nov. The poster said she was cross-country around amador. They may not grow up until they're adults, but excuses do not help them learn basic pedestrian survial skills, i.e. stopping at red lights. Bikers, runners all zip around seeing our 2 Ton cars, and speed like, i'll just slip right thru, some wave, like that makes it OK...NOT. I'm protected, but them gambling to be dead right is not a wise choice. They need teachers or parents who CARE enough to be FIRM, NOT EXCUSE THEM, THAT will not keep them alive.


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2011 at 7:55 pm

I think that your opinion is wrong. First of all, it's wrong to say a kid is stupid. You should express your anger in another way that blogging about how kids are stupid. You were once a kid and probably did the same thing. Second of all, that runner is correct. It is taught in ALL driving books and on driving tests that pedestrians have the right of way at all times. So stop gossiping about being 5 seconds late for your extra-large latte you were about to scarf down. Complaining on the Internet doesn't solve problems. If you have nothing better to do that to complain about high school students, then you should probably go buy another latte..


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 29, 2011 at 7:31 pm

STOP - LOOK - LISTEN!

If you aren't careful, you could be in trouble when you cross a street. Obey the traffic lights.

Be aware that many drivers/peds don't check...that's how accidents happen.

STOP LOOK LISTEN!


Posted by Sally, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Dec 1, 2011 at 11:00 am

WTF? And the kid was stupid?

And you're the adult? Good role model....

Find out what's really bugging you and deal with it.


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