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California extremely unfriendly to new business

Original post made by John on Aug 6, 2011

Regardless of what you read in the paper or hear from California politicans the state is not friendly to starting a new business. I recently moved from Florida where I had a LLC (limited liability company). In Florida after a name search I paid a one time fee of $100. In California I had to pay $10 for the name search, $30 dollars to hold the name, and then an additional $70 dollars to get the business certified. Ok, I am good with all of this and then in the paperwork is says in additional to income taxes I must pay an annual $800 "franchise fee" whether I make money or not! I called the Secretary of States office to ask what I get for this franchise fee and I am told nothing other than the right to have a business and then pay taxes. First year expenses before even turning a profit will be $910 and then must pay income taxes of the hihgest in the nation on the income. This is ridiculous!

Comments (15)

Posted by Holden , a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 6, 2011 at 3:35 pm


As a small business owner myself, the problems don't stop there. For some reason medical insurance, the ability to gain credit (because owning your own business is not seen as a "real job"), treatment by corporations, the franchise board, the state tax board, and ... I could go on.

I've been in business for over 30+ years, dealing with a high profile pedigree of clients through-out the world, yet still many times treated like a multi-level vitamin pyramid scheme organization.

It's a tough fight in California. But, they don't have the beaches, wineries and culture in other regions of the US. I guess it's a trade-off

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 6, 2011 at 3:39 pm

go back to're a newby and you're already whining?

Posted by John, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 6, 2011 at 5:12 pm


Do not take this the wrong way but in Florida the latinos or cubans refer to a cholo as one who is a mutt or one of mixed races, indian/hispanic, cuban/black etc. is that why you call yourself cholo because it certainly is not a name?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Web Link FamilyTree is a fascinating site.

DNA research has confirmed that my father's family is from the Euskal Herria in southwest France. My mother's father was from Greece and he was a Greek Jew who converted to Christianity to survive. I speak Spanish, French, less Greek and a bit more Yiddish than Greek! tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

If we all go back far enuf, my earliest ancestors came out Africa!

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 7, 2011 at 12:17 pm

Out of Africa: Web Link

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 7, 2011 at 12:34 pm

I also have connections to Argentina: Web Link

Posted by Frank, a resident of Canyon Creek
on Aug 7, 2011 at 6:12 pm

Go back to Florida then. There are enough people in CA already and I can't imagine the state improving its intellect with someone from FL.

Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 8, 2011 at 1:43 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Blessed Cholo,

Your genetic heritage is fascinating! I didn't quite understand before that you had a personal relationship to the ancient Vascos. I'm glad to see you somewhat active again on this website and admit to lamenting your absence. I don't always agree with you, but your posts always seem enlightened in your own fashion without being patronizing.

Posted by Stephen, a resident of Danbury Park
on Aug 8, 2011 at 7:17 am


Don't you think it odd of you to question the intelligence of others when the rest of the US considers California and its residents a laughingstock of the nation? It is actually embarrassing when you travel and someone asks where you are from and you say California and then they just grin and start laughing.

Posted by Ernie, a resident of Valley Trails
on Aug 8, 2011 at 9:28 am

My frends and famly in Tennsee get a laff a minit. How can they stan themselfs living in all that diaversity?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 8, 2011 at 10:14 am

The Evolution of Prejudice: Web Link

Posted by steve, a resident of Parkside
on Aug 8, 2011 at 12:49 pm

Ernie-look how well your precious govt sponsored diversty has worked out for England. Those diverse kids had a great time burning shops, looting and attacking the police in London last night. We have our own examples of failed diversity policies in this country---L.A., Detroit, Phildelphia, Oakland, etc. But, you live in Pleasanton---ironic, no?

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 8, 2011 at 5:05 pm

One can run but nobody can hide from Mitochondrial Eve!

Mitochondrial Eve was loving enough to share her DNA with earthlings.

Isn't that wonderful? We all have a common Black African mom!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 8, 2011 at 5:49 pm

even folks in tenny-c been had family that came out of Darkest Africa!

is that good news or what?

you can run but you cain't hide...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

even davey crockett was a mixed blood!!!

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 8, 2011 at 5:50 pm

there is a rumor that even davy crockett been had mixed blood!

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