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on Jun 16, 2011
Mercury news reports a different story. They report there was a police pursuit involved. However Pleasanton weekly reports they were stopped without incident?
I suspect as usual, Pleasantonweekly is being VERY selective about what they publish. Afterall they probably do not want Pleasanton residents to know what REALLY happens. Thats probably why they didnt publish the shooting a few months ago in the creek off of Del Valle Parkway... or the gang issues on Vineyard Avenue... or all the drug activity in the city.
Oh well. Good job to Pleasanton PD for once again doing a great job to keep us safe. I wonder how many comments this topic will draw about the police chief needing to take a pay cut or something about their pensions.
Several other news agencies have reported this being a pursuit.
I've always suspected some of the kids on bicycles with white shirts and black ties.
I noticed that on several stories on PW being different then other news outlets.
Glad the PPD caught the roaches.
I never understand why these thugs are driving an Escalade?????
Nice job neighbor, glad you made the quick call and cheers to the Pleasanton PD, especially the CSO that saw the vehicle first. Hey I don't care if they pursued them or not, they got the crooks and thats what matters. You have to remember the work pursued does not mean they ran from the cops, it only means the cops were following them. Maybe they were following with no lights and sirens (pursuing) waiting for extra units to catch up so they could avoid a chase????
I never understood why thieves always leave stolen property in their cars. So now they not only get caught with today's stolen stuff, but also stolen stuff from the past? How smart is that? Obviously not the sharpest tools in the shed.
Here's the actual quote from PPD:
"Officers located the Escalade traveling north on I-680 and ultimately stopped it on westbound I-580 near Foothill Road. The driver did not attempt to evade the officers and nobody was injured during the indicent."
-Having the PD "catch up to" these criminals is within the definition of a pursuit, i.e: a chase or hunt.
methinks Ben has a problem with proportionalizing things. whew! of all the things in the world to get all bent out of shape over? he picks pw's choice of words to describe a police apprehension.
"Thats probably why they didnt publish the shooting a few months ago in the creek off of Del Valle Parkway..."
What shooting?! I LIVE off Del Valle and walk along the creek, and never heard a thing about a shooting. Where do they think the line should be drawn between public awareness and public safety?
To give a little background on what the confusion might be -
The word "pursuit" in police terms means to be chasing someone as they are actively avoiding an officer or officers. In police terms, what people are saying here would mean would be the officers were trying to "catch up" or "locate" the suspects or "obtain a visual" on the suspects to attempt to pull them over.
I.e. vehicle "pursuit" would be an officer indicating the people to pull over by having their lights and siren on and the person taking actions to avoid the officers. Another example is an officer chasing a suspect on foot and yelling "stop, police" and the suspect continues to run (i.e. foot pursuit).
Methinks you missed what I was pointing out. I was not "bent" out of shape on the wording they used, I am just saying it appears they are not telling 100% of the story here. Just like past stories where things are not correctly reported.
I was simply pointing out many news channels were reporting a "freeway pursuit". After reading the sentence "police used their lights and siren but the driver did not stop (taken from mercurynews)", that makes me believe they are not accurately reporting what happened. It is my opinion PW leaves out certain facts to downplay what they are reporting. I also believe PW does not report everything significant that actually occurs in Pleasanton.
Sadie, about a month and a half ago my wife picked up our children from the sitter on Harvest Circle. A ton of officers were out there and I heard a neighbor say she heard a gunshot. I heard some joggers confirm someone had been shot down there.
Like I said, Ben. Proportion. Some research might help to expand your world and worldview a bit. For example, did you know that over half of all officer-related shootings in Los Angeles go unreported by the L.A. Times? Your expectations that a local newspaper have 24/7 a reporter to immediately swoop into every scene where a neighbor says she heard a gunshot or where a couple joggers, um, 'confirm' a shooting is, I think, a wee bit over the top if you know what I mean. Read, Ben. Expand your horizons.
I agree with ben. Carol this is not los angeles. I too think this paper does not accurately report the facts. He was not saying so much that things don't get reported, it's the things that do get reported are not complete stories. By your statements, you certainly fit the mold of a typical pleasanton resident.
I can't imagine what fitting the mold of a typical Pleasanton resident might look like.
So, ben/agree with ben, do you think the PW has some hidden agenda where the staff has conspired to withhold 'complete' stories from you? If you think about it, ben/agree with ben, no story is EVER complete. Too difficult?
I do agree with you. Pleasanton is not Los Angeles. Excellent point, and highly relevant. Let me put it another way: If you look at research on reportage by some of the most highly reputed newspapers in the world -- e.g., NYTimes, LATimes, London Guardian, Le Monde -- you will find the frequent charge that the stories tend to be selective, skewed, or incomplete. Why? Reporters are human, they often must depend on what others are saying -- and sometimes what others are saying are wildly at odds with one another -- and they are working under deadline.
But you want the PW to print what you like and not anything else though, right? Best antidote: Go to library, do not pass fast food stand.
What draws my attention is the reference to gang activity on Vineyard. I have been catching snippets about it here and there but no public concern. Gangs are cancerous, and before you know it, a community has a problem they cannot extricate themselves from. My assessment is that gangs seem to spring from 1st generation youth not being able to find their 'place' in the society they are plunged into by parents largely illegally immigrated - they have to run under the radar for the parents' sake, and end up creating community and franchise in gang associations. Every citizen in Pleasanton needs to be aware and I would like to see some public education/awareness proposed by the police department/city officials to deal with the issue proactively including providing opportunities for these youth to get them headed in the right direction, or out of Pleasanton - their choice.
Mithinks it would be easier to see your point if we didn't have to read through your personal attacks on the posters you are responding to.
Lighten up there Mike. So many illegal immigrants to bash, so little time.
I agree with Ben and others. If there are shootings/gang issues the public needs to be aware of this. These are safety issues. I haven't been here very long, but long enough to know that a shooting or gang activity is 'big news' in Pleasanton. I don't think the reporters 'missed it'. If they did, they need alot more than the $1.67 a week (or whatever it is) they keep asking me for
i agree with ben and agree with ben and new mom. if gang issues arise, the PW shouldn't try to sweep them under the carpet. there shouldn't be any teens in more than groups of two allowed; and those from entitlement groups and illegals shouldn't be allowed to gather at all. i think the PW wants the city to be overtaken by illegal illiterates who will pay 17 cents a day without reading the fine print. we're too smart for that. and what about the new police chief making more than even the corrupt teachers? what's up with that?
The Pleasanton Patch said:
Officers spotted the SUV headed north on Interstate 680 and stopped it on westbound Interstate 580; the incident caused a brief shutdown of the freeway near Foothill Road.
The driver kept to normal freeway speeds, but did not stop when officers tried to pull him over. No one was injured during the pursuit.
All westbound lanes were shut down and police arrested the three at gunpoint, according to an article in the Contra Costa Times.
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