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City to Pleasanton school board: Prepare for more students

Original post made on Mar 31, 2011

Pleasanton's new housing guidelines may set the stage for more than 800 new students in coming years, according to a discussion between the City Council and school board at a joint meeting Monday night.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, March 31, 2011, 7:46 AM

Comments (20)

Posted by Teske, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:20 am

Well, it starts. Pleasanton better get ready for what Dublin has experienced with all the high-density housing that has been put in there. If you don't like it, you can convey you gripes to Gov. Moonbeam who rammed this down out throats.

You also better get ready for the folk in Ruby Hills to scream bloody murder. They are going to demand the elementary school be built out there which will result in wholesale redrawing of school boundaries.


Posted by Concerned Californian, a resident of Valley Trails
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:30 am

The city keeps telling us that low-income housing rezoning is no big deal - that we don't *have* to build the housing.

When you have three council members representing developer interests over Pleasanton homeowner interests (e.g., the three stooges who supported Measure D); you can be darn sure any low-income housing developer who stands to make money is going to do whatever he can to get this housing built. And Urban Habitat's crew will be at every planning commission and city council meeting cheering it along.

Get ready for the urban ghettonization of our once-great town.


Posted by new mom, a resident of Foothill High School
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:48 am

Well...if the developers are permitted to buid housing that creates more need for schools, then they should have to build the school to support the housing they are building and profiting from. Thecity should assess infrastructure fees to provide the infrastructure.


Posted by Poor stewardship, a resident of Del Prado
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:52 am

PUSD capital funds, nearly $200 million in local bond money, more than $50 million in development fee's, $25 million from the state in capital dollars from 1997-2009 alone.

PUSD had the money but refused to build the schools. Now that they have sqandered the money they will whine for more.

Sorry kids poor stewardship!

Those responsible are getting those big pensions.


Posted by Concerned Californian, a resident of Valley Trails
on Mar 31, 2011 at 10:09 am

Pursuant to state law, high-density housing developers pay lower than normal development and school impact fees (thanks again state).

Valerie Arkin, School Board president, has stated that school impact fees will not be enough to build a new school; and that portables are the first choice to alleviate school overcrowding. So get ready for more portables and multiple lunch periods, and classes being held in storage closets and in hallways.

When our housing caps was ruled unconstitutional, City council could have taken some leadership and worked with our state representatives to overturn this despicable state housing law that pre-empts local zoning; or even started a statewide ballot initiative to overturn it. But bottom line is that Hostermann is a known liberal and most likely has higher political aspirations; so she doesn't want to upset the liberal Democrat status quo. That, and she seems to enjoy taking money from developers such as the sponsors of Measure D. This predicament allows her to take money from low-income housing developers and advocates while all the while telling the people of Pleasanton that she *has* to approve all low-income housing projects that come before the council because "her hands are tied."


Posted by New to Pleasanton, a resident of California Reflections
on Mar 31, 2011 at 10:34 am

Boy, I've got to say, reading some of the people here makes me wonder whether I shouldn't have moved to Pleasanton. The schools and test scores rank very high, and it seems to be a safe and beautiful city. But reading these posts, I get a picture of shriveled up oldsters who when not complaining about a recent onset of gout start lashing out at anything that moves in front of their eyes. REally. They seem to be in some awful pain. C'mon you guys. Get out and enjoy the sunshine in this beautiful city we live in!


Posted by Lynn, a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Mar 31, 2011 at 11:40 am

Pleasanton Unified sold the Del Prado Elementary school site and now finds itself with no land to build a school on the west side.

Donlon and Lydiksen could soon have 1000 elementary students. Pleasanton Unified inadequately planned and mistakenly sold the Del Prado school site in the 1990s and now has no school site on the west side to build a school. What is it going to do? Eminent domain an existing neighborhood to build a school?

Plesanton Unified's short sightedness has resulted in overcrowded elementary schools where in the current situation, though elementary schools' capacity is 600, now over 700 go to most schools. Even though Pleasanton Unified inherited the northwest corner of Pleasanton from the Murray School District, it never bothered to plan for students there.

If Del Prado Elementary school had been built, a portion of Donlon's and Lydiksen's attendance area could go there so that the influx of students could be handled. Now as it stands, again Pleasanton Unified will say "woe is me," probably blame in on the State, and pack the kids into existing elementary schools like sardines.


Posted by Concerned Californian, a resident of Valley Trails
on Mar 31, 2011 at 1:00 pm

New to Pleasanton,
> I'm new in town as well, and not an old codger as you describe.
> Pleasanton is a great place with great schools - for now; and it's because members of this community such as these posters care about the community and over the years supported its efforts to attract business and keep the schools thriving.
> The just sit back and smell the flowers you advocate has worked out real well for Hayward, Union City, Fremont and San Leandro hasn't it?
> San Leandro had some of the best schools in the 1980's - they are now some of the worst in the Bay Area - if not all of California. That's because since the 80's San Leandro has massively added to its stock of high density rental housing; demographics changed and a once-great low-crime, good schools town is now the exact opposite. If you are more comfortable in a town that is moving downhill than one that is trying to stay great-then there are plenty of cities in the East Bay you can move to - and the bonus is, they are prettymuch all cheaper than Pleasanton.

Lynn,
The greenbelt site in Valley Trails would be perfect for a school. In fact, that's what it's currently zoned for even though the city tried to pull a sneaky and get it zoned for low-income housing.


Posted by New to Pleasanton, a resident of California Reflections
on Mar 31, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Concerned Californian,
Nah, I think there are people who are genuinely involved in improving their community, and then there are whiners who groan and complain every chance they get. They seem to always want to take their own pain and direct it at others. It's sad, really. By the looks of your post, though, I guess young people can carry that pain around just like oldsters do. Have a grand afternoon!


Posted by Concerned Californian, a resident of Valley Trails
on Mar 31, 2011 at 3:51 pm

New to Pleasanton,

Way to refute my comments with facts and counterarguments!

I get it - anyone who disagrees with you is "in pain." The fact is, we don't want our children to be in pain with overcrowded schools that are going downhill.

I see a lot of types such as yourself who always say we don't have to worry about development and its impact on schools. They don't have children or they put them in private school, but make sure to chastise everyone else trying to save the institution of public education which has prettymuch gone to hell everywhere in California except the Tri-Valley. Nice!


Posted by None of the Above, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2011 at 6:16 pm

New to Pleasanton:

I think you'll get a warped idea of what this city is like if you base your opinion on what you read in these posts.

Get out, go to dinner, hit First Wednesdays or Friday Concerts in the Park or anything at the Firehouse Arts Center and you'll find a core of fun people who have better things to do than post Town Square comments.

Pleasanton is a great place to live and even better if you have kids.

It's astounding to me that these posters have no problem with people of different skin color taking care of their kids and their lawns, as long as "those people" don't actually live here.


Posted by Yelena, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2011 at 6:30 pm

Also I am new Pleasanton citizen. I am wishing some many others not tear down so much. Concerned Californian seem not such a very good man. Welcome mat outside his door I don't think.


Posted by curious, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:05 pm

To understand, if/when this housing is built will each household pay the parcel tax to cover the increase student population?


Posted by lefty, a resident of Sycamore Heights
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:22 pm

This would be the worst place to get information about the city. Almost everyone posting here is a whiny illiterate who couldn't care less about their neighbor. But luckily there are roughly 70000 people in the city and only about 7 idiots who post on here, so its not really representative of the community.


Posted by curious, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2011 at 8:51 pm

lefty. are you the pot calling the kettle black w/ your post?

sorry but you made it way too easy....couldn't resist


Posted by no surprise, a resident of Downtown
on Mar 31, 2011 at 9:16 pm

As usual, the folks who like to think of themselves as being compassionate are showing their true colors.


Posted by curious supporter, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 31, 2011 at 9:18 pm

Hey Lefty, I'm probably one of those seven your talking about, and I recent it. Go back to Venezuela or Canada or whatever communist country your probrably from.


Posted by Mark094, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 31, 2011 at 10:39 pm

Hey Curious Supporter- Hit the spell check button.


Posted by moderate, a resident of Civic Square
on Mar 31, 2011 at 10:57 pm

Mark, I think you're expecting far too much from the gang of seven (or two, more likely). Woeful ignorance and spelling problems often go hand in hand. Immoral action is not far behind.


Posted by concerned, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2011 at 9:08 pm

such arrogance, moderate.


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