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on Feb 17, 2011
I hate to be a spoiler but the BART station opens on the 19th, not "tomorrow" the 18th. This story was posted Thursday at 9:27 PM.
Better buy your pepper spray, mace,45 magnum -- whatever is you defensive tool of choice. The thugs from the other side of the hills no have an easy way to troll Stoneridge Mall looking for victims. Might want to get a good alarm system for your car as well.
OK, left wing loons, start howling - but you know its true.
If parking fees are charged at the station, but it is less than a five-minute walk to the free parking in the Stoneridge Mall lot, won't people be tempted to park there for their commute, especially in nice weather? Is this the goal, to handle the excess parking demand, or are there some planned controls?
Look what happened to Bayfair Mall after that Bart Station was built
This is great; now we can walk to Bart - from Berkeley to the Ferry Building to SFO - they'll all be at our fingertips.
I'm going to call it the RIF RAF EXPRESS.
Let's welcome the "diversity" that this is going bring to the mall! If Bayfair is any indication, Stoneridge will soon carry the latest in gang member apparel including stop-snitching tshirts, do-rags, bling-bling and sub-spenders for lowering already low baggy pants.
Feel sorry for the people who work at the mall and leave late. I used to live in San Leandro and witness the demise of Bay Fair Mall. When BART was built here, we were promised that BART would not have a station at Stoneridge Mall. Mall needs to hire more security.
Between the low-income housing and now this, prepare to witness the urban ghettonization of our once great town. The libs won't be satisifed until all of California is a dangerous ghetto - except for their protected enclaves in Piedmont, Palo Alto, Oakland Hills, etc.
Wonder how the politicos are positioning this $106 million dollar boondoggle paid for by taxpayers in a state that's broke.
It's 1.6 miles from the East Dublin station.
What a joke. Waste of money, $20+ billion in cost overruns, encouraging more urban sprawl and development, making it incredibly easier for would-be thieves to ply their trade at Stoneridge Mall, and providing an unnecessary station, when the money should have been spent on extending the line to Livermore, if it had to be spent at all. $106 million that could've helped the schools out.
The local and state politicians will be long gone when the damage this station creates comes to fruition. Hope they enjoy patting themselves on the back. I'd like to kick 'em all in the behind.
Our government at work.
I'm glad the opening of this BART station scares all of the conservative bigots in our community. Go move to Texas and hang out with our Tea Party buddies if you don't like it.
Do any of you people who are criticizing the new Bart station actually live near it or take Bart to work? Well I do and the current Bart station is a mad house when people are trying to exit the station. When a train is delayed in leaving the station, it is also a mess. Some type of reliever station was needed ASAP.
In regards to bringing criminals to the area, what person in their right mind is going to want to use Bart as a getaway after an assault or robbery? That's ridiculous. What are they going to do, hang around waiting for the next train? Even if they did that, the police could be waiting for them at the next station in Castro Valley. I saw somebody get arrested there after harassing somebody on the train.
It is far more likely that the new Bart station will bring more WORKERS to the area as commute options improve. With more people going through Dublin, that area will be revitalized with more business too. Have you seen all the closed Dublin businesses in that area?
Comparing Stoneridge Mall to Bayfair is absurd. Bayfair is a mess because of the poverty in that area. Last time I checked, Bart is not cheap. Poor people are not going to be flooding Stoneridge Mall by taking expensive Bart. They will continue to shop at Bayfair or Southland Malls where it is closer and easier to get to on cheaper buses.
Studies have shown that housing with easier access to public transportation is going to be more valuable. Now that I can easily walk to Bart in less than 20 minutes, gas prices going through the roof are not going to affect me or my neighbors as much. Property values are going to benefit accordingly. And I won't have to pay parking fees anymore at crowded parking lots that fill up. One time my wife had to drive all the way to Bayfair just to find parking to meet me in SF.
It's also going to be nice to have a couple drinks in SF and be able to WALK home without worrying about getting thrown in jail for a DUI because I had one stupid beer over the .0000008 limit. One DUI can pretty much make your life a living hell of jail, fines, and increased insurance rates. A closer Bart station solves that problem.
So as a local homeowner, I say cheers to the new Bart station in Dublin/Pleasanton!
One last comment about all the so called crime that was brought to Bayfair by Bart. I used to lived in Hayward and have seen the whole area spiral down in poverty over the last 30 years. Having Bart in Bayfair had nothing to do with that. It's the people living in the area that are causing the problems. Once people start leaving for better schools in other areas (like Pleasanton)it just becomes a vicious downward cycle. If you want Pleasanton to continue to do well, invest in the schools and you keep your own property values higher even if you don't have kids.
I also lived in Piedmont where housing values are much higher than what they are just a block away in Oakland. It's strong public schools that encourage people to pay more to live in Piedmont, certainly not the lack of a Bart station! Everyone there pays much higher property taxes to support the schools because everyone benefits from higher property values.
The crime we had in Piedmont was from people driving or WALKING into the city from Oakland, not from people taking public transportation.
Just ask the Pleasanton Police if they think there won't be any crime around the new station - and they will tell you the truth - that they're gearing up for more rounds around this area. BART may be expensive, but it's a lot cheaper than purchasing an automobile - even a broken down old one that thugs refer to as a "bucket." Bayfair BART station has the highest rate of automobile breakins - since the thugs know Pleasanton residents have nicer cars - perhaps we will beat their record!
We've already seen an increase of crime by the freeway in Pleasanton - perpetrated by our friends from out of town. And speaking of public schools, those are about to head downhill in Pleasanton with the approval of 850 units of low-income housing by Donolon middle school.
Thank you Bay Area liberalism--our quality of life is really improving because of your policies!
Pretty ridiculous that you think criminals are people "in their right minds." If they were "in their right minds" they wouldn't be criminals!
As far as convenience goes, why don't you and your wife (and your children, if you have them) contribute more, then, to help pay off the bonds for the next several decades that paid for this unnecessary station, from a state that's BROKE.
And to Sal, there's nothing bigoted about a taxpayer being upset over $20+ million in cost overruns, politicians who help developers create more urban sprawl by helping transform a small town into a large city, and the fact that it will be incredibly easier for would-be thieves to ply their trade at Stoneridge Mall. Ask any cop.
$106 million could've helped the schools out. Gee, does that make me an education bigot?
Keep your name-calling to yourself.
Hey...this is great.Yippi....yuhoo.....
I take E Dublin/Pleasanton station for everyday travel to SFO and always had the terrible parking problem. Now hopefully that issue is resolved with additional parking garages in W Dublin.
Also it saves me 30 cents daily and 20 mins drive time everyday.
I love it...Finally it's here.
How many of the knee-jerkers posting about this actually take BART and deal with the parking situation? The fact that the first thing you think about it is what kind of people are going to be coming to the valley is a pretty gross showcase of your values.
Why don't you just hate on everyone who has no car and uses public transport to get places. Obviously they must be poor and criminally-minded.
Haven't seen the statistics in the rise in crime since the station at Hacienda was built. Actually, the last murder in town was committed by a rich white boy killing his own parents! Hmmm.....maybe we should be practicing a different type of racial profiling to fit what is actually happening here.
Maybe the real problem is the hate that already lives in this town!
Followed this blog with interest. All the evidence points to improved public transit increasing local property values. Here is a report that summarized a number of studies:
I have to say that there may be concern about making the area more accessible to other communities but it is far outweighed by improvements in commute time, convenience, cost savings to individuals and supporting businesses on the other side in Dublin. Some increase in crime may happen but also cant see how public transit would be the getaway vehicle of choice. The arguments regarding crime proffered by some of the particpants in the blog are unfortunately undermined by lack of evidence. The Bayfair experience appears to be built on hearsay.
My husband and I are both long time Pleasanton residents - originally from San Jose. We moved to Pleasanton for the small town feel. Both of us use Bart to commute to San Francisco. I have to say although the parking situation at the Dublin station has improved and more public transportation certainly improves property values, in my opinion it doesn't outweigh the fact that millions were spent to build the less than 2 miles from our other bart station and the fact that the riff raff of loud out of town teenagers now frequenting our small town mall makes the fact that we moved here years ago to a small town, useless and wondering if we should be looking at a different community to join.
I'm sure that many others who live here feel the same - that the benefits are not necessarily worth losing the small town feel.
Soon to be stoneridge mall...
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