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The federal government should invest in basic research to support broad applications across many industries. It should not "pick winners" as it does not have the skill or knowledge to do so. Obamas recent visit and financial "investment" in a local solar power company has yielded nothing for the company and nothing for the people of our country.
As a side note...the federal government doesnt have the money to spend on this. Empower the private sector to drive jobs. We added some jobs last year, but 4 of 5 were with the government... only adding to the already bloated government...folks... its called overhead.
Obama's proposed investment in technology is simply more spending by the federal government. This country certainly needs to invest more in technology and infrastructure, but it most definitely should not be direct investment by the government. The federal government cannot successfully manage much of anything. The President made a big thing over high-speed rail, which might be great if properly done, but Amtrack is a $13 billion poster-child that the federal government has been totally incapable of developing or running rail transportation. It was ironic that the President was also trumpeting investment in space while his Administration (and the Bush Administration) have basically killed the U. S. space program.
It would be much more productive for the government to promote investment by the private sector through legistlation; to level the playing field in global competition (i.e. clamp down on countries like China); and for us to quit educating foreign students to put us out of business (i.e. China, India, Taiwan, Korea, Brazil); and to quit turning over out technology to foreign countries (China, India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Brazil, Russia).
In an attempt at civility and finding common ground, I will agree with Jerry McNerney on one point, there's no doubt that one of greatest challenges we face is improving our economy and creating jobs.
Where we will disagree is how to go about fixing that. President Obama in his SOTU echoed many campaign points of Jerry McNerney from 2010, President Obama and Jerry McNerney want to double down on the failed policies for the last two years. Take EVI in Stockton as a case in point
This thread details the failure of the Democrats to create a green economy by attempting to use technology that does not exist, or at best is immature.
Taking a look at updates on the EVI website, there is one new press release from October, announcing, dah-ta-dah! The "California Energy Commission today approved nearly $12.6 million for nine projects". No press announcements touting hiring, or revenues, or any of that mundane sort of thing, possibly because none of that is taking place at EVI.
Another failure is found in the $500 million boondoggle at Solyndra in Fremont. The company took over $500 million in loan guarantees from the Federal Government, and the result has been the failure to complete the new facility the President Obama choppered in to tour last year, and subsequent layoffs. The fact is the Chinese are producing solar products faster and cheaper, big factors are regulatory hurdles and higher overhead to produce those products here.
The Obama administration at least found a re-use already for the NUMMI facility that they shut down when Obama took over GM and pulled Chevrolet out of their half of the project, it made a handy landing pad for President Obama's helicopter when he visited Fremont. With the subsequent failures, I am guessing he will not be back real soon.
Don't talk Jerry, start DOING NOW or you will be out----simple as that!!!!
We already have green technology. Hot air. all we have to do is lump all these elected Idiotic windbags, congressmen, senators, pres, etc together and well have all the wind technology we need. That's all they do any way talk talk talk! wind bags, all talk no action. Speaches here , speaches there, speaches everywhere ! No tangible results, nothing accomplished, speaches about what they're gonna do but no real plans, wanna do this , we're gonna do that but where's the money going to come from to get it done? America is broke!!! Shut up! Quit talking all your crap and just start doing something for this nation instead of giving speaches! Im Sick and tired of Talk!!!Shut Up!!!
Yup, fed up from downtown about sums it up. "Speaches here, speaches there, speaches everywhere." A little bit of education anyone? Two cheers for democracy and participatory voice!
Govt stimulus money going to green technology start-ups? No way! Look here! There's one that has been slow getting off the ground! If these naysayers had their way, we'd still be travelling between San Francisco and San Diego on dirt roads. An interstate highway system? No way! Better to spend taxpayer money on tens of thousands of U.S. troops in S. Korea and W. Germany.
Any criticism to be directed at banks that are refusing loans to small business enterprises? Nope. Makes one wonder whether these critics and naysayers want to improve the country. A lot easier to sit back and complain, I guess. Govt stay out of our lives! Do something, do something! Govt stay out of our lives! Do something, do something! Govt stay out of our lives! Do something, do something! Perhaps they truly have no clue as to how ridiculous they sound.
yes, because you sound so intelligent saying that folks who are against a massive expansion of government would rather see us driving dirt roads. Brilliant analysis zeke.
There are moderates in this country, and there are democrats in this country, who do not believe that more stimulus and more debt are the answer. There are many, many reasonable folks who believe that we need to shrink the size of the federal government. Simple as that
Web Link <-- Full transcript, for anyone who didn't see it.
"But now that the worst of the recession is over, we have to confront the fact that our government spends more than it takes in. That is not sustainable. Every day, families sacrifice to live within their means. They deserve a government that does the same.
So tonight, I am proposing that starting this year, we freeze annual domestic spending for the next five years. (Applause.) Now, this would reduce the deficit by more than $400 billion over the next decade, and will bring discretionary spending to the lowest share of our economy since Dwight Eisenhower was President."
"We live and do business in the Information Age, but the last major reorganization of the government happened in the age of black-and-white TV. There are 12 different agencies that deal with exports. There are at least five different agencies that deal with housing policy. Then there's my favorite example: The Interior Department is in charge of salmon while they're in fresh water, but the Commerce Department handles them when they're in saltwater. (Laughter.) I hear it gets even more complicated once they're smoked. (Laughter and applause.)
Now, we've made great strides over the last two years in using technology and getting rid of waste. Veterans can now download their electronic medical records with a click of the mouse. We're selling acres of federal office space that hasn't been used in years, and we'll cut through red tape to get rid of more. But we need to think bigger. In the coming months, my administration will develop a proposal to merge, consolidate, and reorganize the federal government in a way that best serves the goal of a more competitive America. I will submit that proposal to Congress for a vote — and we will push to get it passed. (Applause.)"
Massive expansion of government, eh?
tsk-tsk. Why ruin zekeshadow's intellectually feeble effort to interpret and comment on zeke's comments? And drawing our attention to NPR? Surely, you must realize how sacriligious that is? Didn't you know that NPR is one of the first on the chopping block to be axed as part of the 'job-saving effort' by republicans who suddenly, in 2008, have become so interested in Americans having jobs? Where do you get off linking us to such a subversive source as NPR? Don't you know only socialists who ride socialist rail cars on their way to their elite, latte-drinking jobs listen to NPR and vote democratic?
A moderate democratic govt, in the eyes of Beck worshippers, translates into 'massive expansion of government'. But you'll not hear a whimper from the two-toothed crowd on the right about invasion of Iraq, the nonproductivity of U.S. troops on foreign soil or the legions of armed border patrol who spend their shifts sitting
in the desert whittling under the stars, or repub efforts to take choice away from pregnant women, or to ban gay marriage -- you know, those kinds of expansion.
Never ceases to amaze....
yes yes, and proggie jane can only respond with lies, half truths and personal attacks
nevermind the promises during the campaign pledge to enact a 'net spending cut,' promises not to raise taxes on anyone making less than 250k, and promises to eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than 50k /year
but lets focus on the economy, and forget the pledge to end the iraq war in 2009, and not to sign bills without first giving the public five days of notice and the guarantee 'that we will have in the first year an immigration bill'
of course that didn't square with the pay as you go promise of the democratic congress (which they promptly broke anyway)
In case you are confused Jane, those are what are called facts, and I just counted, I have 32 teeth and yes, I watch Glenn Beck, but no, I only worship God
This 'radical', who believes in god and beck (and states so in the same sentence, mind you), must really be quite some dish. When someone charges that another is lying, the expectation is that the person raising the charge provide some evidence. Ol' 'radical' apparently couldn't find any. Could anyone be surprised by this?
Perhaps it is linked to a weak-minded slavishness to god, beck, and all things authoritarian, but many like ol' 'radical' seem to be operating within a belief system where Obama is a monarch. Hate to disturb the backwaters of that intellectual swamp, but the President of the U.S. is not a monarch. Now, it wouldn't surprise me if most on the right would prefer a monarch. Certainly they raised no dissent when puppeteer Cheney sought to expand radically the powers of the presidency of the right's intellectual leader, Dubya. But contrary to Beck's rantings, we still do operate within a system of checks and balances. I realize those like 'radical' think I'm lying about this. They can readily find this out by searching out any high school civics book, which it seems many of them never have had the occasion to read. Hmmmm. I wonder why?
Now, there's the obsessive claim by the two-toothed crowd on the right, led by their millenarian spokesman Beck, that people making under $250K have had their taxes raised since Obama was voted into office by a substantial majority of the American people. Two-toothed 'radical' makes the same claim above. (This charge usually is positioned next to the charge that Obama is the muslim antichrist or some such.) This is a lie, as in fact those making under $250K per year have received a reduction in their taxes since Obama's term began. Once the likes of ol' 'radical' begin to tell the truth, I'll begin to seriously consider the desperate assurance (a la 'radical') that they do indeed have more than two teeth.
On April 1, 2009, a new cigarette tax went into effect, it violated a promise Obama made on the campaign trail not to raise any taxes on people who make less than $250,000 a year. Lots of people who smoke make less than $250,000 a year.
The health care law that Obama signed on March 23, 2010, raises taxes on some things regardless of income. Two taxes in particular stand out. A tax on indoor tanning services begins this year. And in 2014, people will have to pay a fine, levied through their income taxes, if they don't have health insurance. Neither of these taxes are pegged to income.
'Massive govt expansion' alert!!! 'Massive govt expansion' alert!!!
Two-toothed 'radical' proclaims the sky is falling!!! An added tax on cigarettes and an added tax on Boehner-patronized indoor tanning services!!! Beware great republic of those who worship Glenn Beck!!! Before we know it, there'll be added taxes on chewin' tobacca and methage/theth parlors!!! Stay tuned for the apocalypse and tips on how to save yourselves from a govt that has ensured decent health care to our nation's impoverished children!!!
Fact remains. People making under $250k are being taxed less at the federal level now than in Dubya's years. I've got a hunch, without the new health care law, two-toothed 'radical' would be first in line at the emergency clinic, needing treatment either for illnesses brought upon by a smoking habit or for the condition of not being able to see beyond his own pitiful nose.
big step for jane, she posted one comment in which she did not call me a liar--thank you for stipulating
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