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PUSD employees get a paid Birthday Holiday?

Original post made by Nomad, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Nov 9, 2010

According to the PUSD/CSEA contract (Web Link) and other documents on the CSEA website, hundreds of PUSD employees get 16 paid holidays where one of them is a 'Birthday' Holiday. I recognize that this type of paid holiday is provided at some organizations, but these are not normal times, and if we as a community are discussing a new parcel tax to prevent cuts to student programs, we should also be insuring we are spending existing tax dollars wisely. If the 16 paid holidays were reduced to 13, where one of the rescinded holidays is the 'Birthday' Holiday, that would save over 1200 work days, or approximately $200,000-250,000.
I can see the anti-parcel tax flyer, with a picture of PUSD employees celebrating with a birthday cake and adult beverages, while the adjoining picture shows middle school students standing outside the darkened library with a 'CLOSED' sign.
Since the CSEA contract is currently in preliminary negotiation stage (the contract expires 06/2011) the school board has a great opportunity to continue to show good fiscal practices. If not, another parcel tax measure will be doomed at the start.

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Posted by Jimmy the Jet
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 9, 2010 at 8:37 pm

That's 3 weeks and 1 day of vacation a year. You don't think the people who clean the bathrooms at our school should get some time off? Just because they are paid with our tax money doesn't mean we have to demand poor working conditions.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 9, 2010 at 9:59 pm

Jimmy.....I don't know if your comment was serious.....but I do hope you're kidding. There are school vacations, the entire summer off, furlough days AND 16 holidays....personal days, etc...How many companies do you know that give that amount of time off?


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Posted by Karin
a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Nov 9, 2010 at 11:32 pm

I've worked for a local tech company for over 10 years and I accumulate only 11 vacation days per year plus 10 holidays. If "Nomad"'s claim is true, I seriously question how the board can justify throwing our tax dollars away. Can anyone confirm Nomad's claim?


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Posted by Changes
a resident of Dublin
on Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 am

Unions had a purpose at one time but are now obsolete and corrupt; they should all be dissolved.


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Nov 10, 2010 at 3:14 pm

To 'Jimmy the Jet' -
That's 16 *holidays*, not vacation days. If you read further into the contract (p. 22) you'll see the vacation schedule. 12 days of paid vacation for the first 5 years, 19 (!) days of paid vacation starting year 6, and 22 days of paid vacation at year 16.
So, someone who works for 16 years will have a total of 38 paid days off (vacation and holiday). That's almost 8 weeks of paid time off.


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Nov 10, 2010 at 3:19 pm

And let's not forget the 5% longevity bonus that 16 year person gets as well. (Web Link)
I can see another anti-parcel tax ad with vacations and bonuses :-)


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Nov 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm

That's page 30 of the contract which has the vacation schedule.


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Posted by JT
a resident of Amador Estates
on Nov 19, 2010 at 11:02 am

I can understand everyone's concerns about these paid days off but if you really think about it there are private companies out there where people earn two to three months worth of vacation after a certain number of years. And why are you just attacking CSEA? Have you looked at the contract of management? You might want to check it out and ask why they earn not only more money but more paid time off as well. Every group in PUSD has taken pay cuts to try and help the district out why don't mention that? What are you doing about the politicians that vote themselves raises during this financial crisis? Nothing! because it is easier for you to attack the little guy. You need to remember the most important thing. The people that work for PUSD are dedicated, hard working, loyal people that put our children's needs above all else. They do this because they love this profession, not because they make less money than they would in the private sector and not because they get paid time off. Do you even have a clue as to the work that CSEA members do? Do you realize they are the ones taking care of our kids when they get hurt at school, feeding them lunch, keeping their school clean and safe so they don't get sick or hurt, delivering the learning materials to the schools so that are kids can get a quality education and keeping our kids safe while we are off earning a living ourselves. Think about it, these people are taking care of our kids over six hours a day five days a week excluding the breaks. No one wants to pay more taxes but to attack the people that care for our kids and keep them safe is insane!


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Posted by JT
a resident of Amador Estates
on Nov 19, 2010 at 11:02 am

I can understand everyone's concerns about these paid days off but if you really think about it there are private companies out there where people earn two to three months worth of vacation after a certain number of years. And why are you just attacking CSEA? Have you looked at the contract of management? You might want to check it out and ask why they earn not only more money but more paid time off as well. Every group in PUSD has taken pay cuts to try and help the district out why don't mention that? What are you doing about the politicians that vote themselves raises during this financial crisis? Nothing! because it is easier for you to attack the little guy. You need to remember the most important thing. The people that work for PUSD are dedicated, hard working, loyal people that put our children's needs above all else. They do this because they love this profession, not because they make less money than they would in the private sector and not because they get paid time off. Do you even have a clue as to the work that CSEA members do? Do you realize they are the ones taking care of our kids when they get hurt at school, feeding them lunch, keeping their school clean and safe so they don't get sick or hurt, delivering the learning materials to the schools so that are kids can get a quality education and keeping our kids safe while we are off earning a living ourselves. Think about it, these people are taking care of our kids over six hours a day five days a week excluding the breaks. No one wants to pay more taxes but to attack the people that care for our kids and keep them safe is insane!


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Posted by Lisa
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 19, 2010 at 11:19 am

To: Dark Corners of Town

Wouldn't it be nice if you had the facts straight and reported the COMPLETE picture?
You qoute the vacation allowance for employees that work 12 months. In fact, most classified only work 11 months or 10 months. (Only about 90 classified work 12 months.) 10 month employees earn 10 (not 12) vacation days in first five years (page 31).

Most Classified employees have the same time off as the students, and during Thanskgiving and Winter Break they MUST use up their vacation days. Aides don't receive pay when school is not in session. The workyear (paid days) for most classified employees are only 205, 220, or 240 days per year (page 81 of contract). Most years there are 261 workdays for the 12 mo employees and for years they have only been paid for 260 (classified salary schedule is computed based on 260 days).

Classified employees gave up 2 furlough days last year and 3-6 this year. When jobs have been cut, they have mostly been from the classified ranks -- you know -- the staff that keep our children safe, feed our children, run the school office, run the school library, keep the school clean and sanitary (have you SEEN a school bathroom after lunch?),and keep the computers running, etc.?

Just because there are possible 16 holidays, not all employees recieve them because they do not fall in their workyear.

And have you seen the salaries? The majority of the classified employees are at a range 5 through 14, that's $14.14 to $17.65 per hour (step one) for a short workyear! DO THE MATH, LIVE ON THAT.

Classified has the SAME longevity earning as certificated and management.

Want to talk benefits? Most classified are provided a lower allowance than certificated and management. ALL certificated employees had the FULL benefit allowance moved to thier salary schedule years ago. The District is saving big $ already by not providing the same benifit allowance to the classifed employees (there is a two tier system for classified), yet they earn the least income and ALL pay for medical coverage (must provide proof of purchase of medical coverage to district yearly).

And guess what, more than 70% of classified are YOUR neighbors in Pleasanton. They are stuggling to pay bills like everyone else.

Go pick on someone else!


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Posted by Lisa
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 19, 2010 at 11:22 am

Sorry for the typos above - I was typing fast!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 19, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Just FYI, apparently both the Fed and State mandate a certain number of paid _holidays_ (as opposed to vacation days) for public employees based upon what the government entity considers a holiday. No Federal law mandates paid holidays for private employees. There may be a California law that does so, I didn't look. Private companies typically offer paid holidays as a benefit to attract workers. They don't appear required by law to provide them.

As for targeting floating holidays for CSEA employees, really? These are the little guys. These are the guys who get cut first to save teacher raises.


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Posted by Blythe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2010 at 3:03 pm

I agree with Lisa and Stacey it is shameful for someone to pick on the weakest among us. "Dark Corners whatever", maybe you should spend your time helping these people out instead of attacking them.


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Posted by Blythe
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2010 at 3:07 pm

Stacey,

Teachers deserve raises, and so to CSEA employees.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 19, 2010 at 8:35 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Everyone deserves raises.


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Nov 20, 2010 at 6:40 am

To 'Lisa' - Thanks for contributing to the discussion. I agree with you that classified employees who work a 10 or 11 month year have pro-rated holiday/vacation schedules. That is common HR practice and I didn't think it needed to be explained.
Can you help me understand where you said "Classified has the SAME longevity earning as certificated and management."? I can't find a longevity bonus schedule in the certificated realm.
If PUSD is providing a lesser benefit (assuming you mean medical) allowance to classified staff than to certificated, then I sincerely hope CSEA is discussing this with PUSD as part of the re-negotiation of the expiring CSEA contract.


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