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Pension Spiking + Double Dips = $300K+ for retired City Attorney

Original post made by Robert Byrd on Oct 29, 2010

The pensions for the police and fire chiefs are not the only ones spiked. The City taxpayers have paid City Attorney Mike Rouch $302,210 in 2009 as told by the Contra Costa Times database:
Web Link

What is his monthly pension if he got paid that much? And, I now hear he is still working at City Hall, while collecting this fat pension, just double-dipping and getting paid like a big time SF attorney for every hour. Didn't the Council already hire his replacement and pay the new guy? So, is the City paying 3 times for the same work:

1 - Rosch pension
2 - Rouch each hour
3 - new guy

We need a ballot emasure like SF voters and taxpayers are looking at to have employees pay more of their pensions, and limit this double-dipping.

Kay Ayala - can't you spearhead this?

Comments (15)

Posted by GX, a resident of Foothill High School
on Oct 30, 2010 at 8:42 am

Pleasanton residents are getting gamed by the triumvirate of self-serving public unions, ineffective city management and a City Counceil with no backbone on this issue.

Look at recent city finances to see how public services are being short-changed to cover exploding retirement costs. What galls me is that most employees pay next to nothing into their retirements!

If you care about this issue and the financial future of our city, you need to speak up now either with letters to the city and local papers. Better yet, show up to the next City Council meeting to express your concerns.


Posted by Concerned, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2010 at 1:59 pm

Vote all the incumbent city council members that voted for this spiking. I complained about it at that time. Cindy McGovern is the only one that had the guts to vote against it. Almost makes one wonder if the rest had some ulterior motives. It is so obviously a scam.


Posted by Well, a resident of Del Prado
on Oct 31, 2010 at 5:44 pm

Well pretty soon it will not matter because the money is almost used up. Why do you think they are all retiring now? Because there will be no money in the future.


Posted by mellow fellow, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2010 at 8:40 pm

I gotta tell you ... disclosures like this is what could make this forum GREAT ... it's gonna keep me coming back.


Posted by gold-plated pension, a resident of Del Prado
on Oct 31, 2010 at 9:05 pm

WOW! There was a letter to the editor on Friday that said the same thing. I had no idea this had happened...

'Public employee pensions have mushroomed out of control. Hosterman, Cook-Kallio and Thorne voted in favor of a last-minute retroactive raise for the recently retired city attorney. This resulted in a jaw-dropping, gold-plated pension per year for which we foot the bill. Fiscally responsible McGovern voted against this pension-spiking raise.'

Thank you Robert Byrd for informing us about this. Your efforts are appreciated.


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2010 at 12:27 am

I am glad this was posted. I was planning to vote for Hosterman, but now I am not sure.

Remember that Jerry Brown is pro-union. He will not reform this nonsense system. So even if you dislike Meg, think about it: do you want Jerry continuing this union nonsense? I do not, so I will vote for Meg even though I do not like her. She is better than Jerry and will at least try to fix what is broken in CA


Posted by voter, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2010 at 8:42 am

Full info on city salaries and pensions are now available online:

Web Link


Posted by Another Voter, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2010 at 9:51 am

A Voter - thanks for that link. Most salaries, to me, look in line with what is needed to live in the Valley....wondering about the large "over the maximum" paychecks - overtime or extra vacation pay???


Looks to me like the simple way to fix the pension problem (besides dealing with the unions) is to raise retirement to 65 and prevent retirees from being able to collect a "second" pension....like Tiberon's Police Chief. If someone has public employees pension and goes back to work for a public agency the pension payments should stop, and they pay into the pension again and only get it when they retire from that job.


Posted by GX, a resident of Foothill High School
on Nov 1, 2010 at 10:49 am

To get a true comparison, one needs to increase those already high salary figures with the imputed value of their retirement benefits.

If you do that, you will find that public employee compensation is much higher than the commensurate private sector equivalent.

Also, public sector employee compensations holds a much stronger guarantee than private sector compensation.

Rich public sector employee compensation is bankrupting many CA cities and is starting to affect Pleasanton.

FYI, City retirement expenditures have increase 136% over the past 6 years - that is 7x the baseline.


Posted by John, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 1, 2010 at 12:38 pm

We need these people to take wage and pension reductions.


Posted by Not So Sure, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2010 at 12:20 am

The reality check about this is that our military - even high ranking military officers - don't get pensions any where near these union/public sector pensions....and these courageous military people have sacrificed so much for us... and so have their families who have moved so many times and suffered financially.

There's nothing good about these public sector pensions. It's disgraceful.

I'm going to do a check on General Petraeus's current salary- I don't think it's as high as our city attorney's pension...can anyone else check on this too?


Posted by Not So Sure, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2010 at 12:31 am

It appears that Gen.David Petraeus makes less than $250,000. annually.

askville.amazon.com

You decide...




Posted by Not So Sure, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2010 at 12:42 am

This bears repeating:Posted by pension facts, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 6, 2009 at 11:06 am

There is a good editorial in the Sacramento Bee today on the public employees who are making more than $100,000 per year in pensions. You can find it at: Web Link . They reference a website www.californiapensionreform.com where you can do a search by agency to see those making more than $100,000 in pensions. For Pleasanton, there are currently 22 retired Pleasanton personal making over $100,000 per year in pensions.

They are:

Search by First, Last or Full Name Search by Employer

CLICK HERE TO RETURN TO TOP 10 LIST

Name Monthly Annual Employer Name

TIMOTHY NEAL $14,035.34 $168,424.08 PLEASANTON

STEWART GARY $13,168.05 $158,016.60 PLEASANTON

SUSAN ROSSI $12,499.04 $149,988.48 PLEASANTON

GARY TOLLEFSON $11,854.06 $142,248.72 PLEASANTON

JOHN GOODWIN $11,482.71 $137,792.52 PLEASANTON

BRIAN SWIFT $10,523.83 $126,285.96 PLEASANTON

DAVID RADFORD $10,451.79 $125,421.48 PLEASANTON

THOMAS BRAMELL $10,361.76 $124,341.12 PLEASANTON

ERIC CARLSON $10,271.48 $123,257.76 PLEASANTON

WILLIAM EASTMAN $9,770.95 $117,251.40 PLEASANTON

JOSEPH BUCKOVIC $9,407.05 $112,884.60 PLEASANTON

MICHAEL STJOHN $9,275.80 $111,309.60 PLEASANTON

CHRISTOPHE DICKINSON $9,092.33 $109,107.96 PLEASANTON

SEAN CHAPMAN $8,856.90 $106,282.80 PLEASANTON

CARL COUSINEAU $8,821.74 $105,860.88 PLEASANTON

MAUREEN LAURENCE $8,780.15 $105,361.80 PLEASANTON

PAUL HELMS $8,691.66 $104,299.92 PLEASANTON

GREGORY WIXOM $8,593.63 $103,123.56 PLEASANTON

STEVEN ROSS $8,583.76 $103,005.12 PLEASANTON

PAUL MOLKENBUHR $8,555.76 $102,669.12 PLEASANTON

DONALD SAULSBURY $8,408.28 $100,899.36 PLEASANTON

WILLIAM HALVORSEN $8,382.22 $100,586.64 PLEASANTON


Posted by Abby, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 pm


Our previous City manager Debrah Alcosta McKeahan should be on the list. I have not been able to find her pension amount.

Can anyone else find it???


Posted by Not So Sure, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2010 at 10:12 pm

I read somewhere a while ago that her pension was split between Pleasanton and another city. Apparently, if you work for more than one city, there's a percentage split on your pension. If that's the case, then Pleasanton's share must be under $100K.

Maybe someone can verify this or further explain it.


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