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Climate Action Plan Project meeting will be held tonight

Original post made on Oct 27, 2010

Climate Action Plan experts will provide an overview of the city's Climate Action Plan project, then lead participants through a presentation, Q&A session, and group work sessions to discuss goals and targets tonight from 6-8:30 p.m., Wednesday, Oct. 27, at the Senior Center, 5353 Sunol Blvd. Call 931-5506.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 11:25 AM

Comments (18)

Posted by Dominic, a resident of Del Prado
on Oct 27, 2010 at 8:26 am

Why is our town wasting money and resources on this nonsense?

Posted by steve, a resident of Parkside
on Oct 27, 2010 at 8:42 am

No doubt these pontificating, liberal elites with a misplaced guilt complex will only add to the warmth of the climate with the hot air they'll be blowing.

Posted by DB, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Oct 27, 2010 at 8:45 am

The city has no business wasting time and resources on this climate action plan. First of all, climate paranoia is just a political issue from the extreme left, second of all, if such a thing were an issue, it wouldn't be a city government issue. As far as the climate alarmists are concerned, they are just once again proving Goebles' first principle of propaganda: that a lie repeated many times becomes reality.

Posted by Bowler, a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Oct 27, 2010 at 8:53 am

The answer to Dominic's question can be found in today's Valley Times:

"The creation of the climate action plan was part of a settlement that Pleasanton officials agreed to with an environmental justice group that sued the city over its now-defunct 29,000-house cap."

The housing cap was illegal, and instead of doing the right thing and amending the city's general plan to put the city in compliance, the city opted to fight the lawsuit. Many dollars were wasted in this effort, and the only winners were the lawyers.

The only upside to this painful civics lesson has been the climate action plan. The requirement to develop a CAP, which was originally considered a penalty for losing the city's unsupportable legal position, has had many long-ranging benefits, and will, IMO, make this a better city.

Posted by steve, a resident of Parkside
on Oct 27, 2010 at 8:59 am

Thanks for the additional info, Bowler. So, you've unwittingly cited Jerry Brown as the culprit in this scheme. So, timely,too, right before the election.
Here's hoping that 'putting the city in compliance' means you end up living next to section 8 housing. Hey, at least you'll have easy access to drugs.

Posted by Bowler, a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Oct 27, 2010 at 9:33 am

For those of you interested in learning more regarding Pleasanton's CAP, please follow this link:

Web Link

Please do not get hung up by the use of the word "climate". As the information on the website will demonstrate, most of the efforts are focused on good old conservation, and I think you will be impressed with the wide ranging scope and topics covered.

As I mentioned above, I consider the CAP as a positive outcome from a less than positive experience here in Ptown.

Posted by Non-breeder, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 27, 2010 at 9:50 am

Yes, let us not forget it's moonbeam Jerry Brown who's suing our fair city !
The root of all this folly is being's world over-population. And the world shares the same air stream, So, there is nothing WE do that will change the ongoing people pollution of the world. Get the pope on board with responsible breeding. He pontificates on climate, when he is a KEY polluter.. Stop poverty AND climate change with responsible breeding. Why oh why don't the greens have enough honesty and integrity to work on education on responsible breeding. Airlift condoms...don't spit in the wind changing MY life, when you are IGNORING reality. Practice realistic priorities.

Posted by DB, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Oct 27, 2010 at 9:57 am

Looks like "Non-breeder" is already buying into the far left hidden agenda of population control. What's next: forced sterilization and concentration camps? If you look closely at the left's energy consumption and climate plans, they project stabilization of world population in 2050. How will they achieve that? Today they tell you to stop using energy, stop driving, etc. Tomorrow they'll tell you to stop procreating.

Posted by Non-breeder, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 27, 2010 at 11:16 am

Sounds like DB is part of the pope's expansion plan. Crazy to jumps to such radical scare tactics. Those extreme measure would mever be considered IF people would use their brains...[removed] See, the pope's followers scream about abortion, when abortion is never necessary by responsible users of condoms!. BUT, NO, the pope does NOT want you to be responsible....,.he excourages excessive breeding....precisely my point. He causes IRRESPONSIBLE breeding and the OVER-population that follows. You were given a brain and free will....USE THEM WISELY, otherwise you're no better than dogs & cats. Sad so many of them HAVE to be thinned. Not humans fate...we have brains and SHOULD make WISE choices. Go stand in a county welfare office and seed what IRresponsibility breeds. So don't whine about crowded schools, welfare costs, climate change...unless you start at the root cause. I'm responsible, why should I get stuck with costs of those who are not !

Posted by Laird, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 27, 2010 at 12:00 pm

Hey DB, Mr. Responsible -- did you know that wealth is closely correlated with greenhouse gas emissions? Are you taking responsibility for your own emissions? Do you know how much you are are responsible for?

Posted by DB, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Oct 27, 2010 at 1:00 pm

Sure Laird, wealth and good standard of living are directly correlated to energy use, which doesn't impact climate, and I do the best I can to emit as much greenhouse gas as I can afford!

Posted by DB, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Oct 27, 2010 at 1:40 pm

Hey Non-breeder, It is not a scare tactic, it is part of the left's plan, and you can read about it in their reports and see it in their presentations. BTW, climate is always changing, and there's nothing humans can do about it, and I'm certainly not whining about it. It's not a problem, it's a manufactured agenda so that those who want to be "leaders" can point at their manufactured "solution" as an excuse for raising taxes and oppressing the populace.

Posted by Joe, a resident of Siena
on Oct 29, 2010 at 8:33 am

What has happened to our country? These topics are just getting crazier and crazier. If I was a Martian and landed here, I would probably turn right around and go back home, thinking to myself, "These humans are stupid!".

Posted by conserve energy, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2010 at 9:34 am

Conserving energy does affect the climate. Using cleaner energy sources also affects climate. Planning land use so that fewer people need to rely on the over-travelled highways in the region improves quality of life for all.

See the long list of investments that the city has made already at this link: Web Link

By switching to lower-energy streetlights and stoplights, upgrading HVAC to more efficient models, and investing in solar, the city is saving money in the long term, because more efficient equipment means that we pay PG&E less. Those are one-time investments in converting the equipment, that pay for themselves within just a few years.

Even if you don't believe the scientific research that has established the link between human activities and climate change -- these measures SAVE MONEY over the long term. That means lower taxes in the future.

Posted by curly, a resident of Charter Oaks
on Oct 29, 2010 at 12:33 pm

That reminds me, I need to lay in my winter wood supply so I can burn heavily on any "spare the air" day.

Climate Nazi's

Posted by Roger, a resident of Fairlands Elementary School
on Oct 30, 2010 at 11:32 pm

Great project and I hope it brings our community together! I know this study will pay for itself and save the City money in the long-term.

Posted by DB, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Nov 1, 2010 at 8:15 am

Contrary to what the user "conserve energy" says, scientific research has NOT established a link between human activities and climate change. That is simply a political falsehood.

City investments like solar do not save money, they waste money. Solar cells wear out, don't recoup their investment (despite what the slick salesman might tell you), they damage the environment in their manufacture (using toxic chemicals, solvents, and petrochemicals), they don't and never will scale, and they wouldn't exist without massive subsidy.

Posted by Scientist, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Dec 4, 2010 at 10:00 am

For politically neutral explanations of the scientific evidence about global warming, one good place is the site First click on the "Newcomers Start Here" image at the top right of the page. After you've read that, click the "The Big Picture" image that is below the Newcomers Start Here image.

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